No, not the original argument which the premise of was if it's easier to obtain a gun legally or illegally.

Thanks for playing.
- MnGump

Do you own a firearm?

If you are weighing the number of innocents killed against anything an elected government might do to you the answer is no.
- Canada Cup

Change "might" to "will" and then answer the question. To think that either the US or Canadian governments are immune from the immorality and temptation of taking liberties with an unarmed population is not wise.

Thats gotta be a joke, right?
- jak521

Absolutely not.

Ok ill give u all the guns you want and you try to take the U.S military on. If we need to overthrow the government we would need to military to turn on them. citizens with guns would stand no chance.
- Cheeseballin

They said that about the British in 1776. Just about every revolution that was successful involved the taking down of a powerful military.

Do you own a firearm?
- jak521

do you really need to ask that question? i'm guessing he owns at least 3 and plays 'shoot the cans' in his backyard on weekends too.

Do you have any evidence of this?
- golfingsince

What?!?

again, thanks for playing...

Absolutely not.
- golfingsince

I didnt realize you had the second sentence is bold. If it was the first sentence alone I would re-ask the question..

Do you own a firearm?
- jak521

Yep. I own 2 hunting rifles.

do you really need to ask that question? i'm guessing he owns at least 3 and plays 'shoot the cans' in his backyard on weekends too.
- hnic

I wanna know how he obtained them.. legally or illegally.

What?!?

again, thanks for playing...
- MnGump

That's a pretty broad statement to make based on opinion.

Yep. I own 2 hunting rifles.
- MnGump

Did you obtain them legally? If so, why?

They said that about the British in 1776. Just about every revolution that was successful involved the taking down of a powerful military.
- buffalofan19

I think you forget that we don't have muskets anymore.

Thats gotta be a joke, right?
- jak521

Well, they all did own slaves and were all perfectly ok with it.
They were far from perfect.

I didnt realize you had the second sentence is bold. If it was the first sentence alone I would re-ask the question..
- jak521

Yeah that would have been insulting. Pretty bold to call people from 2 centuries ago smarter than modern day educated people however.

do you really need to ask that question? i'm guessing he owns at least 3 and plays 'shoot the cans' in his backyard on weekends too.
- hnic

Why don't you go admire your collection of rare and odd unicorn figurines and make sure you have fresh Tofu for dinner! Leave the gun talk to the adults.

I think you forget that we don't have muskets anymore.
- Cheeseballin

Don't worry, the citizens will just buy tanks, jet fighters, choppers and naval equipment on the open market.

I think you forget that we don't have muskets anymore.
- Cheeseballin

Every military, every firearm, has its weakness. It takes willpower and smarts to beat a powerful foe. It may be more difficult, but it doesn't make it invincible.

And before anybody accuses me of wanting to start some sort of revolution, I'm not. Saying that it absolutely can't be done is just naive.

Change "might" to "will" and then answer the question. To think that either the US or Canadian governments are immune from the immorality and temptation of taking liberties with an unarmed population is not wise.
- buffalofan19

You people are (frank)ing nuts. The minds of liberties a Canadian or American government might ever take with it's own population cannot be compared to the innocent lives lost because of your love of guns. What is it you need protection from?

Did you obtain them legally? If so, why?
- jak521

Only one was obtained legally.

Only one was obtained legally.
- MnGump

Figured you'd say something like that.

Did you obtain them legally? If so, why?
- jak521

Before fighting again, you guys did agree on one important point: make screening much more stringent. Hard to argue with that.

In my view they should also restrict/regulate the purchase and manufactuiring of bullets and ammo. nothing in the 4 corners of the constitution about that. Sure crazies and outlaws will still get them, but it will be harder.

Yeah that would have been insulting. Pretty bold to call people from 2 centuries ago smarter than modern day educated people however.
- golfingsince

Being "educated" or having access to more information doesn't necessarily make you smarter.

Why don't you go admire your collection of rare and odd unicorn figurines and make sure you have fresh Tofu for dinner! Leave the gun talk to the adults.
- MnGump

ooohhh, you missed the mark on that one, shooter.

reload.

You people are (frank)ing nuts. The minds of liberties a Canadian or American government might ever take with it's own population cannot be compared to the innocent lives lost because of your love of guns. What is it you need protection from?
- Canada Cup

According to some, our govt. Because if they tried to take us over our handguns and rifles would be a serious match for their... you know, tanks and helicopters..

It absolutely does. Most people who commit these crimes purchase guns legally.



If you make it harder to posses gun legally, and increase the ramifications of illegal possession of a firearm you will likely see a decrease in this type of incident. Statistically speaking anyway..
- jak521

or the graph will simply reverse.