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Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:13 PM ET
They didnt benefit from the Cap. They benefited despite having a Cap. Which is why the players came out ahead.
- Gunslinger


So they made more money with a Cap than they would have?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jan 1 @ 9:13 PM ET
They didnt benefit from the Cap. They benefited despite having a Cap. Which is why the players came out ahead.
- Gunslinger

Don't bother.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:14 PM ET
Does not seem like that would be in the best interest of a healthy league would it. If many teams were only spending 20 mill. while Toronto is spending 100 mill
- Cheeseballin


No more than it would be in the best interest of a healthy league to keep teams in markets where its just not working. Or owners are not committed to winning.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:15 PM ET
So they made more money with a Cap than they would have?
- Cheeseballin


They made more money than the owners wanted to give them. They made more money than the owners thought they would get when they put the Cap in place.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:16 PM ET
No more than it would be in the best interest of a healthy league to keep teams in markets where its just not working. Or owners are not committed to winning.
- Gunslinger


So get rid of or relocate half the league? hm interesting
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:16 PM ET
Don't bother.
- muffin_man


Im at that point now. He gets it, now hes just being silly about it because he cant argue against it.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:17 PM ET
So get rid of half the league? hm interesting
- Cheeseballin


No, just the weakest of the weak links. 2-3 of them would be enough to make a significant difference. Relocation, not contraction.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:18 PM ET
Im at that point now. He gets it, now hes just being silly about it because he cant argue against it.
- Gunslinger


Didnt mean to make u angry

Im trying to understand. I simply dont get it.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:19 PM ET
Didnt mean to make u angry

Im trying to understand. I simply dont get it.

- Cheeseballin


Im not angry, but it is getting tiresome.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:20 PM ET
No, just the weakest of the weak links. 2-3 of them would be enough to make a significant difference. Relocation, not contraction.
- Gunslinger


How do you know it will make that much of a difference. Have you looked at the leagues books?
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:21 PM ET
Im not angry, but it is getting tiresome.
- Gunslinger


Sorry you know way more than a lot of people do. So trying to understand.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:49 PM ET
Dan Rosen
@drosennhl
And the NHL and NHLPA meeting has ended. More soon.

Jesse Spector
@jessespector
Meeting over. Here comes Fehr.

Pierre LeBrun
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
NHLPA coming out now
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 1 @ 9:51 PM ET
Dan Rosen
@drosennhl
And the NHL and NHLPA meeting has ended. More soon.

Jesse Spector
@jessespector
Meeting over. Here comes Fehr.

Pierre LeBrun
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
NHLPA coming out now

- opeth_pa


OH poop
Bleedblue13
St Louis Blues
Joined: 08.08.2012

Jan 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
@Real_ESPNLeBrun)
1/1/13, 21:51
Don Fehr just spoke. Says NHL made a counter. NHLPA will look at it internally and both sides will meet again tomorrow at some point
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jan 1 @ 10:19 PM ET
@DavidAlter590
On narrowing the gap. Bettman says there are things they met the pa, things they bent on, and things they flat out said no.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 1 @ 10:27 PM ET
@DavidAlter590
On narrowing the gap. Bettman says there are things they met the pa, things they bent on, and things they flat out said no.

- sippyd



It seems like an 8 year old tweeted this.
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Jan 1 @ 10:35 PM ET
So keeping what they already had is a win? No

They lost alot more money by having a cap in place. Imagine how much more they could have made with no cap. Thats not winning.

They did not purposefully create a loophole. No Fact here.

- Cheeseballin


their salaries have increased dramatically. many owners are still losing money.

players won. this isn't rocket science.
CrisCrossCrease
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Western Springs, IL
Joined: 07.31.2012

Jan 1 @ 10:36 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Revenue sharing is close to a done deal. The NHLPA move in the direction of the NHL by accepting a 10 year CBA with certain conditions.

annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
The NHL will not give any feedback to the union until the disclaimer deadline has passed.

That will eliminate the players from filing anti-trust lawsuits. Just as i expected the NHL would do.

So now that the players won't be able to take that route, they have 2 choices - accept a new deal or disband the union - the latter of course would take months upon months in court to clear that mess up.

So in other words, the NHL knows the PA doesn't want to go down that route which means the NHL is still going to come out on top because the players will have no choice but to sign this deal.

Make no mistake, the timing of the NHL's comeback is no coincidence, they want that Jan 2 deadline out the window before they make any other moves.

- newmy


If the deadline passes, all the players need to do is vote again and they'll have another chance to disband...sorry if this was already pointed out, i didnt read every response...
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 1 @ 10:43 PM ET
If the deadline passes, all the players need to do is vote again and they'll have another chance to disband...sorry if this was already pointed out, i didnt read every response...
- annoyance_101


MJL is this true ?
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jan 1 @ 10:47 PM ET
It seems like an 8 year old tweeted this.
- systemtool


I was expecting your smartarse comment. No surprise.
Bleedblue13
St Louis Blues
Joined: 08.08.2012

Jan 1 @ 10:54 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Revenue sharing is close to a done deal. The NHLPA move in the direction of the NHL by accepting a 10 year CBA with certain conditions.


- CrisCrossCrease


Thats huge.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 1 @ 10:58 PM ET
I was expecting your smartarse comment. No surprise.
- sippyd


Of course you were. What esle to expect after your dumbass post. Huge surprise.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

Revenue sharing is close to a done deal. The NHLPA move in the direction of the NHL by accepting a 10 year CBA with certain conditions.


- CrisCrossCrease


Nice. Always helps when people pass on coherent information.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
Thats huge.
- Bleedblue13


Thats what she said.
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