From my understanding there is no indication that the anit trust motions would work. The courts would take years to get all of those motions completed.
- HipHopisDead

You are right but the league doesn't want to end up in court for months/years and the cost of penalties are insane if found guilty.

Are the players seriously voting on this disclaimer again at 6pm that they say will end in 48 hours ?

All I can say is wow if this is true!

I think these players seriously need to follow the path down the yellow brick road to hopefully find the wizard and ask for a brain !

Are the players seriously voting on this disclaimer again at 6pm that they say will end in 48 hours ?

All I can say is wow if this is true!

I think these players seriously need to follow the path down the yellow brick road to hopefully find the wizard and ask for a brain !
- BuffaloHardHat

they want something in their back pocket to push the NHL at the 11th hour next week.

There is NO respect by either side, they will use ANYTHING they can to gain leverage and get the best deal possible. They will have a deal by sometime next week but if fans ever thought they were valued and important for either side, don't kid yourself.

Fans are taken for granted by both side.....

Dont expect u to agree...
- Fruitcakenipple

I agree with the sentiment, I thought it was fool hardy to spend all that money, but the fact is the Wild's salary cap payroll is still within the cap ceiling, and even if next years cap ceiling is $60 million, they'll be under that as well with over $14 million coming off the books. I just don't think you're justified in saying this is the "reason" why we have no hockey.

Once this is over...

Fire Bettamn
Remove Jacobs from the BoG
Hang them from the gallows

I will watch hockey but not support HRR

Games on TV and knock off jersey's for me, I'm actually kinda torn...I would like a season but would also like this to blow up in the players faces

Once this is over...

Fire Bettamn
Remove Jacobs from the BoG
Hang them from the gallows
- glove_was_stuck

FEHR?

they want something in their back pocket to push the NHL at the 11th hour next week.

There is NO respect by either side, they will use ANYTHING they can to gain leverage and get the best deal possible. They will have a deal by sometime next week but if fans ever thought they were valued and important for either side, don't kid yourself.

Fans are taken for granted by both side.....
- Symba007

It's hilarity Symba....downright hilarity now.

The owners are not going to flinch because of the threat of this. That is why I said the players need to follow the yellow brick road.

Once this is over...

Fire Bettamn
Remove Jacobs from the BoG
Hang them from the gallows
- glove_was_stuck

and public execution of Fehr

they want something in their back pocket to push the NHL at the 11th hour next week.

There is NO respect by either side, they will use ANYTHING they can to gain leverage and get the best deal possible. They will have a deal by sometime next week but if fans ever thought they were valued and important for either side, don't kid yourself.

Fans are taken for granted by both side.....
- Symba007

Had so much power the first time Bettman and Daly ignored it.

I am quite certain the second time around they are even more fearful LOL!

The calendar is the big motivating factor, for both sides, nothing else.

Both sides know full well they are not going down the years long path of anti-trust with no guarantees for either side at the end.

FEHR?
- flashfire

Fehr is going to be forced to eat their corpses, who will then develop a GI infection and die.

FEHR?
- flashfire

you ever see the end of Casino?

You are right but the league doesn't want to end up in court for months/years and the cost of penalties are insane if found guilty.
- Symba007

Something to consider about those penalties:

- it's 3X contracts.

But 40% of NHLPA members are currently without contracts.

So it's great for 60% of the guys.

And for the rest, you forfeit 1 to 2 years of salaries, with absolutely nothing to show for it.

And that's the best case scenario. There's a good chance you win nothing.

Had so much power the first time Bettman and Daly ignored it.

I am quite certain the second time around they are even more fearful LOL!

The calendar is the big motivating factor, for both sides, nothing else.

Both sides know full well they are not going down the years long path of anti-trust with no guarantees for either side at the end.
- Aetherial

well i think half of this lockout is just about (frank)ing with Gary Bettman. essentially the players are paying to make his life miserable.

Had so much power the first time Bettman and Daly ignored it.

I am quite certain the second time around they are even more fearful LOL!

The calendar is the big motivating factor, for both sides, nothing else.

Both sides know full well they are not going down the years long path of anti-trust with no guarantees for either side at the end.
- Aetherial

I don't think it holds a huge amount of power but I could say the exact same of the threats of the league to cancel the season at this point, with what's on the table.

Ha, I just knew they were going to cite the 2001 2nd circuit case E.R. Squibb & Sons, Inc. vs. Lloyd's and Co's.

Classic Fehr!

In my opinion, this isn't going to work.















(OK, I'm bluffing)
- Atomic Wedgie

What about a writ of habeas corpus?

well i think half of this lockout is just about (frank)ing with Gary Bettman. essentially the players are paying to make his life miserable.
- DoubleDown

I agree with the sentiment.

I only wish I could be there when each of them realizes how stupid they have been.

You are right but the league doesn't want to end up in court for months/years and the cost of penalties are insane if found guilty.
- Symba007

I was going to write about the costs (legal and Penalties)... and I agree with you... I just don't see it wiggin out the owners. I think the owners just don't want to lose a season but they might for the right price.

I have no idea what's going
just waiting for mid next week and hopefully there is a deal done by then.

Oh this is classic........


Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance

PA lawyers using Gary Bettman's own words from last night about disclaimer never being uttered as proof PA hasn't threatened to disclaim.

I don't think it holds a huge amount of power but I could say the exact same of the threats of the league to cancel the season at this point, with what's on the table.
- Symba007

I am inclined to agree except that it seems that the PA is asking for contracting terms almost as bad as before AND they want hundreds of millions more AND they want cost uncertainty in the future for the owners AND they want a shorter CBA...

I believe there is a deadline for season cancellation if the owners do not get whatever it is that they can live with, which we don't know yet exactly... but I bet they do

I will watch hockey but not support HRR

Games on TV and knock off jersey's for me, I'm actually kinda torn...I would like a season but would also like this to blow up in the players faces
- flashfire

I'm right there with you

FEHR?
- flashfire

Will put the lotion on its skin in my basement

I agree with the sentiment, I thought it was fool hardy to spend all that money, but the fact is the Wild's salary cap payroll is still within the cap ceiling, and even if next years cap ceiling is $60 million, they'll be under that as well with over $14 million coming off the books. I just don't think you're justified in saying this is the "reason" why we have no hockey.
- MnGump

U dont think that the 2 contracts handed out this summer by the Wild GM isn't part of the reason we have no Hockey today?

Deep down i would love for this to end in the courts as it would be interesting to see a judge rule on the 2 monster contracts handed out just weeks before the lockout started..

Will put the lotion on its skin in my basement
- glove_was_stuck

nice

Oh this is classic........


Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance

PA lawyers using Gary Bettman's own words from last night about disclaimer never being uttered as proof PA hasn't threatened to disclaim.
- faceto27

The PA blinked last night.
The league didn't.

Let's just see what happens

(trust me, I am hoping they are stupid enough to file a DOI)