- MJL

Why is it even imp if they are gonna limit deals to 7yrs anyway...
- Fruitcakenipple

think Luongo type deals....could end up with the last year of a deal paying 1M with a cap hit of 6M but the first few years the team is paying him 10M but with a cap hit of 6M. Makes it easy to buyout contracts at the end and circumvent the cap the first few years.

GM need handcuffs, many are desperate to save their job or have dumb owners

Variance at 30%? Why even have a variance limit? If they go for 8 year contract limits we will still see cap circumventing deals like the Pronger one.

Why is it even imp if they are gonna limit deals to 7yrs anyway...
- Fruitcakenipple

because over a 7 year deal with the current system, you can have a couple of years of $1M throw away cap circumventing seasons which they are trying to avoid. I think the old rule was 25% variance year by year no?

Variance at 30%? Why even have a variance limit? If they go for 8 year contract limits we will still see cap circumventing deals like the Pronger one.
- niedermayer27

see every comment from the last 2 pages

think Luongo type deals....could end up with the last year of a deal paying 1M with a cap hit of 6M but the first few years the team is paying him 10M but with a cap hit of 6M. Makes it easy to buyout contracts at the end and circumvent the cap the first few years.

GM need handcuffs, many are desperate to save their job or have dumb owners
- Symba007

there's actually a cap penalty for buying out the final years of a front loaded contract. Gomez's cap hit would be $4.5M (i think) if he were bought out instead of the 1/3 of his current cap hit

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it if the courts find in favour of the PA disclaiming that the contracts would all be null and void and the PA can file for illegal lockout.

If they find in favour of the NHL then we are just back to bargaining again?
- stuckey

by then, the season will be long gone and the PA will get tore apart by the NHL.

the only reason the NHL is giving up a little more every time is because the season can still be salvaged. if the season is officially cancelled and the courts rule in favor of the NHL, i'd assume the NHL will have total leverage and take back everything they've slowly given.

Hello to all my peeps

Wanna make the NHL better? Get rid of the cap, go to an MLB luxury tax on the teams that spend the most.

With no cap, get rid of 6 teams: We don't need 2 Florida teams so the Panthers would go. Don't need 3 California teams so Anahiem must go. Followed by Columbus, Phoenix, Nashville & yes I'm going to get flack for this so go ahead, but the last team to go will be Winnipeg.

Go dowm to 24 teams & no cap. The NHL will be soooo much better.

Mabie the trade deadline can be siginificant again, instead of watching it & 4 hours passes by with no deals, than we get a flurry of 4th line trades

see every comment from the last 2 pages
- muffin_man

Yeah I just went back and read that.

I want $10 (frank)ing million dollars. I'm not really good at anything but I deserve it as much as those (frank)ing guys who get paid to play a game that we all obsess over.
- Canada Cup

I don't know why I come on here every day, still hoping there is progress. Being this close, any other league would have a deal by now. But not the NHL and NHLPA. They set the standard for being greedy, stubborn bumholes.

Hello to all my peeps

Wanna make the NHL better? Get rid of the cap, go to an MLB luxury tax on the teams that spend the most.

With no cap, get rid of 6 teams: We don't need 2 Florida teams so the Panthers would go. Don't need 3 California teams so Anahiem must go. Followed by Columbus, Phoenix, Nashville & yes I'm going to get flack for this so go ahead, but the last team to go will be Winnipeg.

Go dowm to 24 teams & no cap. The NHL will be soooo much better.
- GCHonda

Except for the fans of those teams of course.

think Luongo type deals....could end up with the last year of a deal paying 1M with a cap hit of 6M but the first few years the team is paying him 10M but with a cap hit of 6M. Makes it easy to buyout contracts at the end and circumvent the cap the first few years.

GM need handcuffs, many are desperate to save their job or have dumb owners
- Symba007

It a sad league when the Owners have to make rules in a CBA to protect themselves from themselves...

Hello to all my peeps

Wanna make the NHL better? Get rid of the cap, go to an MLB luxury tax on the teams that spend the most.

With no cap, get rid of 6 teams: We don't need 2 Florida teams so the Panthers would go. Don't need 3 California teams so Anahiem must go. Followed by Columbus, Phoenix, Nashville & yes I'm going to get flack for this so go ahead, but the last team to go will be Winnipeg.

Go dowm to 24 teams & no cap. The NHL will be soooo much better.

Mabie the trade deadline can be siginificant again, instead of watching it & 4 hours passes by with no deals, than we get a flurry of 4th line trades
- GCHonda

Except for the fans of those teams of course.
- MJL

The teams u dump dont have many fans..

Hello to all my peeps

Wanna make the NHL better? Get rid of the cap, go to an MLB luxury tax on the teams that spend the most.

With no cap, get rid of 6 teams: We don't need 2 Florida teams so the Panthers would go. Don't need 3 California teams so Anahiem must go. Followed by Columbus, Phoenix, Nashville & yes I'm going to get flack for this so go ahead, but the last team to go will be Winnipeg.

Go dowm to 24 teams & no cap. The NHL will be soooo much better.

Mabie the trade deadline can be siginificant again, instead of watching it & 4 hours passes by with no deals, than we get a flurry of 4th line trades
- GCHonda

Yeah, the NHL should adopt the worst and most lop-sided system in sports. May as well go back to a 6 team league.

Hello to all my peeps

Wanna make the NHL better? Get rid of the cap, go to an MLB luxury tax on the teams that spend the most.

With no cap, get rid of 6 teams: We don't need 2 Florida teams so the Panthers would go. Don't need 3 California teams so Anahiem must go. Followed by Columbus, Phoenix, Nashville & yes I'm going to get flack for this so go ahead, but the last team to go will be Winnipeg.

Go dowm to 24 teams & no cap. The NHL will be soooo much better.

Mabie the trade deadline can be siginificant again, instead of watching it & 4 hours passes by with no deals, than we get a flurry of 4th line trades
- GCHonda

Except that will mean about 150 fewer jobs. Never gonna happen.

Although I think we could all survive every team losing their 4th line and 3rd D pair.

I want $10 (frank)ing million dollars. I'm not really good at anything but I deserve it as much as those (frank)ing guys who get paid to play a game that we all obsess over.
- Canada Cup

Except for the fans of those teams of course.
- MJL

Well look back at the history of teams who moved or folded:

Kansas City Scouts,
Cleveland Barons
Atlanta Flames
The Quebec Nordiques
Minnesota North Stars
Original Winnipeg Jets.
The Atlanta Thrashers.

Point is, it aint the first time nor probably the last that fans will unfortunatley lose their teams. Happens in all sports.

The teams u dump dont have many fans..
- Fruitcakenipple

Maybe so. But what if you were one of those fans, and really enjoyed the team you root for. You wouldn't think that contraction was so great.

It a sad league when the Owners have to make rules in a CBA to protect themselves from themselves...
- Fruitcakenipple

How do you think al of societal laws work? they are designed to raise the lowest common denominator to an acceptable level. This rules are no different.

Well look back at the history of teams who moved or folded:

Kansas City Scouts,
Cleveland Barons
Atlanta Flames
The Quebec Nordiques
Minnesota North Stars
Original Winnipeg Jets.
The Atlanta Thrashers.

Point is, it aint the first time nor probably the last that fans will unfortunatley lose their teams. Happens in all sports.
- GCHonda

It sure does. Doesn't really change the point though. I guess I'm lucky that I root for a team that isn't going to possibly face that.

Maybe so. But what if you were one of those fans, and really enjoyed the team you root for. You wouldn't think that contraction was so great.
- MJL

YEs but he's not so he does.

It sure does. Doesn't really change the point though. I guess I'm lucky that I root for a team that isn't going to possibly fact that.
- MJL

Yeah, the NHL should adopt the worst and most lop-sided system in sports. May as well go back to a 6 team league.
- niedermayer27

detroit would be FRANKED