Were I an owner I'd lobby for no more pensions at all. Anyone who joins the league beginning this season doesn't get one. Honor the old ones and be done with it. It's an antiquated notion.
- Scoob

NHL players want MLB type pension plan....

NHL at 10 years with an option at 8
NHLPA at 10 years with an option at 7

really?

Fear the Fehr
- Fruitcakenipple

If he can actually get a deal done similar to what we have been reading then he will have done a fantastic job for the players.

really?
- DoubleDown

If it's on the internet its true... so yes really...

what is the variance?and what does it mean to the players or owners

NHL players want MLB type pension plan....
- Symba007

I don't know what that is but I'd tell them to pound sand. We'll honor what has already been established. Going forward new guys are on their own.

what is the variance?and what does it mean to the players or owners
- minerbo

It's how much a player's salary can vary from year to year in a contract.

So for example, in the old CBA you could make $4 million one year and $2 million the next.

With a 30% variance, I believe it would be more like $4 million and then $2.8 million minimum.

EK....your site is having problems again....just saying.

If he can actually get a deal done similar to what we have been reading then he will have done a fantastic job for the players.
- Sharks_12

This all started with owners want to fix revenue sharing but in the end there (frank) all to help the struggling teams...

Well done Garry....

If he can actually get a deal done similar to what we have been reading then he will have done a fantastic job for the players.
- Sharks_12

they lost half a year of salary, damaged the only profession they are good at, and have taken a hit in every category from the last CBA

#Winning

I don't know what that is but I'd tell them to pound sand. We'll honor what has already been established. Going forward new guys are on their own.
- Scoob

Post of the year (ok - year is still young). I have no idea what they're askibpng for but I'd tell them to (frank) off. Another tough guy.

they lost half a year of salary, damaged the only profession they are good at, and have taken a hit in every category from the last CBA

#Winning
- flashfire

If that's how you wanna look at it, sure. I look at it a little differently.

It's how much a player's salary can vary from year to year in a contract.

So for example, in the old CBA you could make $4 million one year and $2 million the next.

With a 30% variance, I believe it would be more like $4 million and then $2.8 million minimum.
- Sharks_12

got it thanks.

they lost half a year of salary, damaged the only profession they are good at, and have taken a hit in every category from the last CBA

#Winning
- flashfire

If they signed the first offer from the league back in the fall they would have lost loads for years to come....They win in the long run..short term pain for long term gain...Get in the know..

1-Make it 7 years deals
2- if at 30% variance, should not be an issue for PA
3- Can't blame the league, let the players fund their pension, they are millionaires.

Still the issue of the salary cap next year, League will move to 63-64M

deal by next week
- Symba007

Pension funding sounds like the last big hill - those other issues shouldn't stop them from getting back to business. Nice read from Shoalts ...

http://www.theglobeandmai...otiations/article6893173/

EK....your site is having problems again....just saying.
- Symba007

Fixed

Fixed
- CaptEO

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Players just left the NHL offices

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Players just left the NHL offices
- Symba007

that was quick

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Players just left the NHL offices
- Symba007

oh well ....... I guess that is the end of it.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Players just left the NHL offices
- Symba007

Potty break.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Players just left the NHL offices
- Symba007

lunch, seems like they players are outraged about something different everyday...they are just stalling until the last minute to get the best deal, at all our expense

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Players just left the NHL offices
- Symba007

Hope someone shows them where they have to go...some here claim they are the dumbest people on earth...

Pierre Lebrun just tweeted the players have left the NHL offices.

Bruce Garrioch tweets this could be an interesting day and not in a good way.