Give them 10 with an option of 7. Neither is going to be dumb enough to completely destroy their public image by exercising it anyways.
- ehabs9

Both side are most certainly dumb enough.

there wont be a season

I still feel nothing gets settled. This blows up and no season..
- Popcorn Kid

I'm right there with you.

I got excited in early December with the all night meetings but that pretty much used the last of my energy over this process.

I just don't care anymore. If they do sign a new CBA then i'll be back watching and rooting for the Kings but if they don't then it's one less thing to think about until this time next year when they're still at it, or the NHL just folds. In that case I guess I just add the MLB to the sports I watch.

NFL, F-1 and Indycar

This is classic.

The NHLPA already did not have a leg to stand on with their disclaimer of interest.

And now they elect not to do it, and then threaten to do it again?

Bwaa ha ha ha ha.

Yeah, I guess no judge in the world would view that as a mere negotiating tactic.

Bettman is pissing himself. He's daring them to do it again.
- Atomic Wedgie

Sounds like a load of wishful thinking....

@AtomicWedgie:

Fehr now threatening double secret disclaimer of interest.
- Atomic Wedgie

Delta?

Guys .. I cannot figure out how to imbed this video link....

But please... take 3 minutes and enjoy the Absolute WORST New years Eve Show ever produced... and in LA even!

http://www.break.com/inde...w-years-show-ever-2402197

The guy beating up the drunk black woman at the end is just to Christmassy.... and thats is not even in the top 5 of wierdness in this production....

Watch it.... (no, this is not a Rickroll)
- Beatle_john

OMG that was a disaster.

@cotsonika: So wait. It was Don Fehr himself -- the bogeyman, salary-cap crusher -- who decided against disclaimer last night? Hmm.
- nayefj

Technically, it would have to be him - not the players - who would file a disclaimer of interest.

This is part of what makes it so funny - he got the players to vote on whether or not he could decide to walk away and no longer represent them.

It's so transparently a bargaining ploy, it's laughable.

Eklund: The Latest...3 New Details...
- Eklund

NHLPA are a bunch of jackasses(E5)

there wont be a season 3 of Game of Thrones
- wingz4life

fixed

ric Macramalla ‏@EricOnSportsLaw

NHLPA and players named as Defendants have filed motion to dismiss action for lack of jurisdiction - will try and get memo and revert
- faceto27

So the players left the table to sue the nhl............

Honestly, who would you buyout from the Leafs other than Komi.

I am not even convinced they would buyout Komi... a lot would depend on what they felt the needed the money to spend on?

On the other hand, Komi goes beyond this year and if the cap hits 60 or 65, you have to figure there will be *some* good players out there to spend money on.

So, yeah, Komi. I can't think of anyone else though.
- Aetherial

Actually I can see the leafs being a little more creative than that. Maybe something like. Komi to NYI and 4th for Dipietro and their 1st.

Or even something with Tampa for their 1st. They would love to get rid of Vinny, and can that afford to buy him out? Leafs could ... let him play for the shorten season and buy him out over the summer. If he wants to Bolt back to the Bolts for lesser - let him.

Rich teams can afford making moves like this.

ric Macramalla ‏@EricOnSportsLaw

NHLPA and players named as Defendants have filed motion to dismiss action for lack of jurisdiction - will try and get memo and revert
- faceto27

? Do you understand this? I feel like I am missing context here. I am not sure what is being discussed.

Is the PA filing for a motion to dismiss the action the NHL filed, saying that the NY court has no jurisdiction?

I guess my question then would be, how can they hope to succeed. Where exactly IS there jurisdiction?

Delta?
- MnGump

Jeremy Jacobs was just seen walking into a Toys R Us and asking the cashier:

"May I have ten thousand marbles, please?"

? Do you understand this? I feel like I am missing context here. I am not sure what is being discussed.
- Aetherial

I think (wild guess) that this is asking the court to dismiss the NHL's pre-emptive strike that they filed in New York.

Edit: this one:

http://www.winnipegfreepr...-complaint-183556711.html

As I said above, I'm merely guessing.

The formula remains the same folks..............
This season was always going to hang on the balance of a drop dead date. I fully expect negotiations to break down today or tomorrow, there will be press conferences and feet stomping and everyone is going to panic and think the season is toast..........They will take 3 days off and then give it one last chance to save the season.....which they will.......The new CBA will be agreed to on Jan 10th

Its been scripted this way since the start....we have one more "end of the world" press conference than we will have a deal

(@SunGarrioch)
1/3/13, 13:46
The small group meetings are over for now. It would appear this could be an interesting day and not in a good way. #NHL #NHLPA
- Bleedblue13

just got back from the nhl offices, saw a few players walking out (martin st louis was there among others), after that nothing at all was going on....very quiet

Technically, it would have to be him - not the players - who would file a disclaimer of interest.

This is part of what makes it so funny - he got the players to vote on whether or not he could decide to walk away and no longer represent them.

It's so transparently a bargaining ploy, it's laughable.
- Atomic Wedgie

U really think Rogers and Bell are interested in calling that bluff??...Remember they are already losing a poop load of money from no hockey ...


This is going to explode and the result will be a much smaller league when the dust settles..


Wait...


WTF is wrong with that??...

I seriously don't know anyone who cares!! In fact we talked about it at work last night and every person there is sick of it and wants the season cancelled.
- Bullot

you, your coworkers, and everyone on this site cares...otherwise you wouldnt be talking about it.

The formula remains the same folks..............
This season was always going to hang on the balance of a drop dead date. I fully expect negotiations to break down today or tomorrow, there will be press conferences and feet stomping and everyone is going to panic and think the season is toast..........They will take 3 days off and then give it one last chance to save the season.....which they will.......The new CBA will be agreed to on Jan 10th

Its been scripted this way since the start....we have one more "end of the world" press conference than we will have a deal
- billyberg10

Just like 2005?

I think (wild guess) that this is asking the court to dismiss the NHL's pre-emptive strike that they filed in New York.

Edit: this one:

http://www.winnipegfreepr...-complaint-183556711.html

As I said above, I'm merely guessing.
- Atomic Wedgie

No, I edited my post. I think that is right.

My question now is... where *is* there jurisdiction? I really can't see this being successful.

? Do you understand this? I feel like I am missing context here. I am not sure what is being discussed.

Is the PA filing for a motion to dismiss the action the NHL filed, saying that the NY court has no jurisdiction?

I guess my question then would be, how can they hope to succeed. Where exactly IS there jurisdiction?
- Aetherial

Yes, they are filing to dismiss the NHL's action in the NY court

U really think Rogers and Bell are interested in calling that bluff??...Remember they are already losing a poop load of money from no hockey ...


This is going to explode and the result will be a much smaller league when the dust settles..


Wait...


WTF is wrong with that??...
- Fruitcakenipple

I'm all for it.

Yes, they are filing to dismiss the NHL's action in the NY court
- faceto27

This is great news!

U really think Rogers and Bell are interested in calling that bluff??...Remember they are already losing a poop load of money from no hockey ...


This is going to explode and the result will be a much smaller league when the dust settles..


Wait...


WTF is wrong with that??...
- Fruitcakenipple

I don't think Rogers and Bell care that much, to be honest.

The last lockout and subsequent imposing of a salary cap meant record profits (note: that's different - and better than record revenues) for MLSEL. So in the end, missing a season was worth it.

And they don't fear contraction, either. Hell, it helps them out. Less weak sisters means less teams to prop up. They still get 45 home dates a year, whether there are 30 teams or 24 or 20.

The formula remains the same folks..............
This season was always going to hang on the balance of a drop dead date. I fully expect negotiations to break down today or tomorrow, there will be press conferences and feet stomping and everyone is going to panic and think the season is toast..........They will take 3 days off and then give it one last chance to save the season.....which they will.......The new CBA will be agreed to on Jan 10th

Its been scripted this way since the start....we have one more "end of the world" press conference than we will have a deal
- billyberg10

This +100

Assuming there is a deal, it definitely will not happen until the very last second possible. Key word is "if" a deal happens