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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 4 @ 5:02 PM ET
No Hockey.....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:13 PM ET
No Hockey.....
- stveshdy

huh?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 4 @ 5:22 PM ET
huh?
- 2Real


My guess is the season is going to be canceled.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:23 PM ET
My guess is the season is going to be canceled.
- stveshdy

that would suck
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
I'd like to think so, but he's 5'6. Danny is 5'10, and he's considered small. Theoren Fleury was 5'6, but he's the exception. He'll probably get there, but I'm not sure he'll be able to handle the physical game.
- jmatchett

Bro- if Briere is 5'10" then I'm 6'7"....Buffalo has that one tiny kid
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:33 PM ET
My guess is the season is going to be canceled.
- stveshdy


Be ready to watch some Flyers Hockey in a couple of weeks!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 4 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'd like to think so, but he's 5'6. Danny is 5'10, and he's considered small. Theoren Fleury was 5'6, but he's the exception. He'll probably get there, but I'm not sure he'll be able to handle the physical game.
- jmatchett


Danny is 5-10 on skates.... maybe.



GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 4 @ 6:23 PM ET
Danny is 5-10 on skates.... maybe.
- bmeltzer

Danny is 5'10 with wedges in his skates and after several large glasses of milk. Johnny Hockey might be one of those exceptions, although in today's hockey game (or perhaps last years hockey) smaller players may no longer be the exception
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 4 @ 6:52 PM ET
Bill, what are the chances the Devils buy themselves out of the Kovy deal?

Honestly tho, what's your opinion on the most talented player likely to be bought out? That is if that's not to early too speculate on...
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 4 @ 7:03 PM ET
Bill, what are the chances the Devils buy themselves out of the Kovy deal?

Honestly tho, what's your opinion on the most talented player likely to be bought out? That is if that's not to early too speculate on...

- hereticpride

Ovi?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 4 @ 7:15 PM ET
Ovi?
- KINGKENZO

Cant see someone of that talent being bought out to be honest, even if his cap hit is high. If I were a Caps fan I'd go berserk.

I think we'll see quite a few overpriced 2nd liners hit the market tho.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
I agree with your premise on that. The 65M Cap hit helps the transition. As long as the 50/50 split is maintained and escrow takes care of that. I don't see what the big deal is from the NHL's end.
- MJL


It's not crippling enough to the players to meet their satisfaction I guess.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
Cant see someone of that talent being bought out to be honest, even if his cap hit is high. If I were a Caps fan I'd go berserk.

I think we'll see quite a few overpriced 2nd liners hit the market tho.

- hereticpride

The chaos and ripple effect would be astounding
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 8:17 PM ET
It's not crippling enough to the players to meet their satisfaction I guess.
- ob18


The more I think about it, the more I think the NHL and the Owners have it all screwed up. They're trying to put in financial restraints to help the small market teams. I understand that. But the problem is that it's going to hurt the big market teams. That is a huge mistake. The big market teams with the local sponsors, and the biggest fan bases drive the League. They bring in the money. And the kicker is that all of these changes aren't going to do much to make Phoenix, Columbus, or Florida profitable teams that can compete with the big market teams. It's completely the wrong approach in my opinion. Find a away to let the big market teams spend, keep strong teams, without dragging the low market teams with them. Having the Cap floor linked to the Cap ceiling doesn't work. The Cap doesn't work. Luxury tax is the way to go.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
The more I think about it, the more I think the NHL and the Owners have it all screwed up. They're trying to put in financial restraints to help the small market teams. I understand that. But the problem is that it's going to hurt the big market teams. That is a huge mistake. The big market teams with the local sponsors, and the biggest fan bases drive the League. They bring in the money. And the kicker is that all of these changes aren't going to do much to make Phoenix, Columbus, or Florida profitable teams that can compete with the big market teams. It's completely the wrong approach in my opinion. Find a away to let the big market teams spend, keep strong teams, without dragging the low market teams with them. Having the Cap floor linked to the Cap ceiling doesn't work. The Cap doesn't work. Luxury tax is the way to go.
- MJL


If you want a solution, all you have to do is ask.

-Da Funking Man
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 4 @ 9:21 PM ET
The more I think about it, the more I think the NHL and the Owners have it all screwed up. They're trying to put in financial restraints to help the small market teams. I understand that. But the problem is that it's going to hurt the big market teams. That is a huge mistake. The big market teams with the local sponsors, and the biggest fan bases drive the League. They bring in the money. And the kicker is that all of these changes aren't going to do much to make Phoenix, Columbus, or Florida profitable teams that can compete with the big market teams. It's completely the wrong approach in my opinion. Find a away to let the big market teams spend, keep strong teams, without dragging the low market teams with them. Having the Cap floor linked to the Cap ceiling doesn't work. The Cap doesn't work. Luxury tax is the way to go.
- MJL

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 4 @ 10:02 PM ET
The more I think about it, the more I think the NHL and the Owners have it all screwed up. They're trying to put in financial restraints to help the small market teams. I understand that. But the problem is that it's going to hurt the big market teams. That is a huge mistake. The big market teams with the local sponsors, and the biggest fan bases drive the League. They bring in the money. And the kicker is that all of these changes aren't going to do much to make Phoenix, Columbus, or Florida profitable teams that can compete with the big market teams. It's completely the wrong approach in my opinion. Find a away to let the big market teams spend, keep strong teams, without dragging the low market teams with them. Having the Cap floor linked to the Cap ceiling doesn't work. The Cap doesn't work. Luxury tax is the way to go.
- MJL


MJL- thank you for concisely putting together how I feel about this situation. This post illustrates what I haphazardly and lazily allude to in my posts...I don't like to to wax seriously when I post here, but to me, this is dead on.

The scary, sad and infuriating thing is neither the BoG nor the NHLPA will resolve these issues with this CBA. Leaving the fans with an inferior, short sighted, Mickey Mouse league or better know as status quo.

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 4 @ 11:08 PM ET
The more I think about it, the more I think the NHL and the Owners have it all screwed up. They're trying to put in financial restraints to help the small market teams. I understand that. But the problem is that it's going to hurt the big market teams. That is a huge mistake. The big market teams with the local sponsors, and the biggest fan bases drive the League. They bring in the money. And the kicker is that all of these changes aren't going to do much to make Phoenix, Columbus, or Florida profitable teams that can compete with the big market teams. It's completely the wrong approach in my opinion. Find a away to let the big market teams spend, keep strong teams, without dragging the low market teams with them. Having the Cap floor linked to the Cap ceiling doesn't work. The Cap doesn't work. Luxury tax is the way to go.
- MJL


Logic and the NHL are as far from each other as the East is from the West.
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