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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
Then there's no way to ever know the true results.

They might be accurate, however, if the vote was 351-349, it might show how divided they are. Do they had to show a lobsided result.


The truth though is for at lease 200 players, a DoI means the loss of jobs. So there's no way they would have said yes if they are educated at all.

- l3ig_l2ecl



yes or no....1 out of every 3.5 nhl players are not educated?

fwiw, i say yes and its not even close.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
congrats!!!
- l3ig_l2ecl



thanks bro.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 4 @ 1:53 PM ET
The head of the Union can deside to file for a Disclaimer of Interest for which they would no longer represent the players.

The vote is useless, because Fehr can file a DOI with or without the players approval. The vote is a PR attempt to show how united the players are and to put pressure on the Owners.

The only other positive for the players out of a vote is when they fight the NHL in court. The players can say that X amount of players were OK with Fehr to file a DoI since negotiations were going no where.

- l3ig_l2ecl

If Fehr could dissolve the union when he wanted why was there even a due date on the 2nd ?
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
200 players would likely be replaced with lesser contracts, or replaced with younger, better, cheaper players.

so no, maybe not loss, but worst for them

- l3ig_l2ecl


Players get replaced all the time for younger/better/cheaper, nothing new. Thats not a DOI issue.

Im not saying DOI wont have consequences, and major ones at that, but how much we will never know, nor which side will eventually benefit/lose more than the other. Simply too many unknowns and legal matters that any of us can honestly say we understand enough of to form a definite opinion on.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
I dont think anyone knows what Leopold looks like, anymore than they know what the guy working the meat department at No Frills looks like.
- Gunslinger



and i talk to mine all the time. get them order stuff they don't have.
like the chicken breast roast wrapped in bacon people in bacon! McAngelos (sp)
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
game game game game end game end games games end game
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
I might be wrong also, but I understood that to come from the owners side.
- MJL


You obviously aren't paying attention. There's been plenty of information documented on the NHL's proposals to this point in the negotiations. Please get informed before making random "I might be wrong" statements. Derp
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
and i talk to mine all the time. get them order stuff they don't have.
like the chicken breast roast wrapped in bacon people in bacon! McAngelos (sp)

- dmnted


mmmm bacon people. canabolism sounds tasty when you put it that way.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
If Fehr could dissolve the union when he wanted why was there even a due date on the 2nd ?
- Alexzanki


I think what he means is that after the vote, and players give him the apporval to do it, he can file any time without having to go back and ask them if its "okay".

Within the expiry date, of course.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
i guess i got until the end of may to get in as much as i can...
- LetsGoIsles


Eww.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jan 4 @ 2:00 PM ET
Hey Ek, can you try to make your next blog a playoffs analogy? Thanks
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
game game game game end game end games games end game
- weirdoh



At first I thought you were being retarded, then I noticed the title of the blog....
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
Usually happens after kids

After the wedding is usually a (frank) fest. It was great. Kids really do change your life alot.

- Gunslinger




ssshhhhhh the (frank) fest is making to much noise and the kids are up from the oiless bed springs.


wup that's my wife alright.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 4 @ 2:02 PM ET
If Fehr could dissolve the union when he wanted why was there even a due date on the 2nd ?
- Alexzanki

It's a really good question.

1. pressure on NHL
2. With getting an OK from his Union, Fehr can still get paid.
3. pressure on NHL
4. See 1 and 3
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 2:04 PM ET
ssshhhhhh the (frank) frest is making to much noise and the kids are up from the oiless bed springs.


wup that's my wife alright.

- dmnted





Your avatar reminded me of this: (old pic, i know)

l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 4 @ 2:06 PM ET
I think what he means is that after the vote, and players give him the apporval to do it, he can file any time without having to go back and ask them if its "okay".

Within the expiry date, of course.

- Gunslinger

He doesn't need the OK from the players. He can at any time he so wants, file a DoI and no longer have legal responsibilities to represent the players.

By putting a due date, it makes it look like Fehr would have made a pressure decision which might have put pressure on the Owners to accept a deal the players proposed. They call their bluff. Now their looking like idiots by voting again...
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
It's a really good question.

1. pressure on NHL
2. With getting an OK from his Union, Fehr can still get paid.
3. pressure on NHL
4. See 1 and 3

- l3ig_l2ecl

Just making sure because Eric Macramala was saying on tsn and I quote '' If the NHLPA does not disclaim interest by 11:59pm on January 2, it could always conduct another player vote with a view to authorizing a disclaimer at a later date. That being said, it would be a surprise to see a re-vote. Expect the NHLPA to treat the January 2 deadline as a now-or-never scenario.

I thought Fehr had to wait at a later date to do it and by then it would of been to late...
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
He doesn't need the OK from the players. He can at any time he so wants, file a DoI and no longer have legal responsibilities to represent the players.

By putting a due date, it makes it look like Fehr would have made a pressure decision which might have put pressure on the Owners to accept a deal the players proposed. They call their bluff. Now their looking like idiots by voting again...

- l3ig_l2ecl


If you say so, I dont know enough to refute any of that!

The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 4 @ 2:09 PM ET
yolo boys......YOLO
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 4 @ 2:10 PM ET
Just making sure because Eric Macramala was saying on tsn and I quote '' If the NHLPA does not disclaim interest by 11:59pm on January 2, it could always conduct another player vote with a view to authorizing a disclaimer at a later date. That being said, it would be a surprise to see a re-vote. Expect the NHLPA to treat the January 2 deadline as a now-or-never scenario.

I thought Fehr had to wait at a later date to do it and by then it would of been to late...

- Alexzanki


I heard the players are upset that Fehr didnt file and that because he didnt it showed weakness. They want a revote and this time they want him to file if nothing gets done by the deadline. Just what I heard on TSN radio!
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Jan 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
ssshhhhhh the (frank) fest is making to much noise and the kids are up from the oiless bed springs.


wup that's my wife alright.

- dmnted


I've got five kids--and the sex gets better as you grow older together--but once in awhile you have to throw a role of quarters in the back yard and tell the kids not to come back until they've picked up every one of them.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 2:12 PM ET
he's basically attempted to marginalize anyone who calls him out for his staggering amount of rumour errors, mistakes of what'll happen next and self serving blogs to keep readers coming....


thing is, i dont think many of us actually come here for eks thoughts. it's basically just an entertainment website where we can bs about hockey.

but as soon as season cancelled, im out till next summer
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 4 @ 2:13 PM ET
Just making sure because Eric Macramala was saying on tsn and I quote '' If the NHLPA does not disclaim interest by 11:59pm on January 2, it could always conduct another player vote with a view to authorizing a disclaimer at a later date. That being said, it would be a surprise to see a re-vote. Expect the NHLPA to treat the January 2 deadline as a now-or-never scenario.

I thought Fehr had to wait at a later date to do and by then it would of been to late...

- Alexzanki

Eric Macramala is an idiot. He's the TODAY Show's Star Jones "legal correspondant".

If the players voted yes, and he said no, that means he could of said yes if the players said no. Basically meaning a vote is totally useless.... Common Sense 101
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
yes or no....1 out of every 3.5 nhl players are not educated?

fwiw, i say yes and its not even close.

- LetsGoIsles


I think you are supremely uneducated on the education levels of NHL players. Also, you do not have the required education level to appropriately educate us all on their educations levels.

In other words...you don't know poop!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
these 2 sides are so effed they cant even be in the same room with a mediator present!

he's going back and forth. it's called shuttle mediating
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