Leafs are like the Mets. They start off great usually.
- Pixote Andolini

You forgot the rest. Both teams really and truly suck.

If Pronger can play, I'd be ecstatic. I would love to see him be able to continue his career.

That said, his health and future with his family is the most important thing.
- Jsaquella

We'd all love to see back again, but we all know it isn't happening. Why would he risk it, it just isn't worth it.

The buyout is only for this summer right?

We'd all love to see back again, but we all know it isn't happening. Why would he risk it, it just isn't worth it.

The buyout is only for this summer right?
- LJF

I've heard that it may be available thru next summer as well, nothing definitive on it, though

Per Panotch:

Bill Daly says that the Amnesty/Compliance buyouts can't be used on LTIR players...so Pronger would likely be inelligible.

Also reports that Pronger will be at camp, despite not being cleared to play

Per Panotch:

Bill Daly says that the Amnesty/Compliance buyouts can't be used on LTIR players...so Pronger would likely be inelligible.

Also reports that Pronger will be at camp, despite not being cleared to play
- Jsaquella

Interesting. That LTIR rule is madness.. So we're gonna eat his salary in the offseason.. fantastic.

Per Panotch:

Bill Daly says that the Amnesty/Compliance buyouts can't be used on LTIR players...so Pronger would likely be inelligible.

Also reports that Pronger will be at camp, despite not being cleared to play
- Jsaquella

He is crazy to even try to play. He has his name on the cup he will be in the HOF why try to play again. If he is there as anything other then a cheerleader he isn't being smart.

Be there to hand over the C and as support.

Per Panotch:

Bill Daly says that the Amnesty/Compliance buyouts can't be used on LTIR players...so Pronger would likely be inelligible.

Also reports that Pronger will be at camp, despite not being cleared to play
- Jsaquella

interesting....so he'd have to be cleared to play before it could be used on him?

Interesting. That LTIR rule is madness.. So we're gonna eat his salary in the offseason.. fantastic.
- Hextall271

Unless they hired Dr Nick Riviera to clear him medically and then buy him out

Unless they hired Dr Nick Riviera to clear him medically and then buy him out
- Jsaquella

That's one way to do it. I am hoping that Nash uses the amnesty clause on Weber so he can finally come to where he belongs..

That's one way to do it. I am hoping that Nash uses the amnesty clause on Weber so he can finally come to where he belongs..
- Hextall271

What he chance that happens with Weber?

What he chance that happens with Weber?
- LJF

About the same as the Flyers using it on Claude Giroux

About the same as the Flyers using it on Claude Giroux
- Jsaquella

Exactly.. it was more of a joke..

Exactly.. it was more of a joke..
- Hextall271

So was mine

HOCKEY!

He is crazy to even try to play. He has his name on the cup he will be in the HOF why try to play again. If he is there as anything other then a cheerleader he isn't being smart.

Be there to hand over the C and as support.
- LJF

You don't know how he feels . Also to be as successful in a sport like hockey as pronger was it takes a level of desire that I doubt many can fathom. People throw the word warrior around a lot these days and I don't think they understand it. Pronger is a warrior and if he can go, he will go.

Per Panotch:

Bill Daly says that the Amnesty/Compliance buyouts can't be used on LTIR players...so Pronger would likely be inelligible.

Also reports that Pronger will be at camp, despite not being cleared to play
- Jsaquella

In what capacity? As an active player or as a consulting position to be around?

You don't know how he feels . Also to be as successful in a sport like hockey as pronger was it takes a level of desire that I doubt many can fathom. People throw the word warrior around a lot these days and I don't think they understand it. Pronger is a warrior and if he can go, he will go.
- JoeRussomanno

The report that I saw says he'll be AT training camp not participating in training camp. I might be at Flyers training camp too...doubt I'll see much ice time with the team tho.

You don't know how he feels . Also to be as successful in a sport like hockey as pronger was it takes a level of desire that I doubt many can fathom. People throw the word warrior around a lot these days and I don't think they understand it. Pronger is a warrior and if he can go, he will go.
- JoeRussomanno

Exactly, Joe. While I, too, am leery of a return of #20, if he feels well enough to play, then I support his decision.

Folks need to remember that he missed just 6 games after taking the high stick to the eye on 10/24. He then returned to play on 11/9 and played in 5 straight before he was put on LTIR. He hasn't been out since just the eye injury in October. I don't know what that means, exactly, maybe either the eye injury was exacerbated by an additional hit or hits, or it finally was properly diagnosed in November.

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...CgPbVz5kgf4Kf7U2dY4xivLYF

In short, your first sentence is correct.

The report that I saw says he'll be AT training camp not participating in training camp. I might be at Flyers training camp too...doubt I'll see much ice time with the team tho.
- Dkos

I dunno... How well can you play D? David Sloane and Jamie Fritsch surely could not predict their placement on the 2008-09 roster.

Great Day for Everyone!

I gotta say, before the announcement, I was really on the fence on whether or not I wanted to see a season this year. Something about this year's team doesn't excite me but I have no doubt in my mind that every team in the league are gonna want to make certain adjustments, so we'll see.

On the plus side, I'm excited to see what types of steps Sean Couturier and Brayden Schenn will make after spending half the season in the minors. I'm also really hoping Giroux will stay tops in the league.

Downside, I think every player really looked up to and respected both Pronger and Jagr. I'm also very concerned about the defense. I'm not sure where Meszaros' health is at and for the first time since Timonen has been a Flyer, his age was really beginning to show at the end of last season with back issues. I have the highest hopes that we'll be fine but I really hope they upgrade and I have no doubt that Homer will be keeping his eyes and ears open.

Great Day!

Per Panotch:

Bill Daly says that the Amnesty/Compliance buyouts can't be used on LTIR players...so Pronger would likely be inelligible.

Also reports that Pronger will be at camp, despite not being cleared to play
- Jsaquella

It would be amazing if Pronger could play but why get our hopes up like this? Every Flyers fan will answer the question on whether or not he'll ever play again quickly. He's done.

It would be amazing if Pronger could play but why get our hopes up like this? Every Flyers fan will answer the question on whether or not he'll ever play again quickly. He's done.
- SuperSchennBros

Panotch needs clicks to pay the bills.

I dunno... How well can you play D? David Sloane and Jamie Fritsch surely could not predict their placement on the 2008-09 roster.
- Flyskippy

had to hang up the skates last year... torn MCL, torn meniscus, bulging disc. I was a decent dman in my time tho.

Panotch needs clicks to pay the bills.
- Flyskippy

He's digging deep, isn't he?

So what are the odds that Bryz gets bought out?