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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
I'm wondering if there have been any trades discussed and worked out in principle, and are just waiting for the deal to be ratified to be announced.
- MJL

I've gotta think Lou's bags are packed.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
It was a total ego move. Rinne and Weber now account for well over 20% of the teams salary. Watch how well that works out for them.
- hereticpride


Losing both Suter and Weber would have been a disaster for them. They had to do it.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
It was a total ego move. Rinne and Weber now account for well over 20% of the teams salary. Watch how well that works out for them.
- hereticpride


Perhaps this summer they consider dealing Weber? We'd have quite the competition for him, but our offer would be loaded. I could see Edmonton putting together a really nice offer for his services as well as a few other teams.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
It was a total ego move. Rinne and Weber now account for well over 20% of the teams salary. Watch how well that works out for them.
- hereticpride


Exactly. Rinne wasnt exactly a superstar in the playoffs last season either.

Speaking of Nashville I would wonder about Ellis. Thats if they even want to deal with the Flyers, or the Holmgren believes the hype about Ghost.

I realise a lot of the talk here is about potential future moves. Personally I just cant get myself to be that excited about this season or this group of guys. Lockouts do strange things.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
Losing both Suter and Weber would have been a disaster for them. They had to do it.
- MJL

Four 1st's isn't exactly a disaster to a patient hockey fan tho. If there is such a thing.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:54 AM ET
It was a total ego move. Rinne and Weber now account for well over 20% of the teams salary. Watch how well that works out for them.
- hereticpride


If you are small market team, you want to spend money on a goaltender and defenseman and build on that. Hell that should be the blueprint for every team.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 6 @ 11:54 AM ET
Four 1st's isn't exactly a disaster to a patient hockey fan tho.
- hereticpride


I wouldn't trade Shea Weber for 4 1st rounders, especially late 1st rounders.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 11:55 AM ET
Perhaps this summer they consider dealing Weber? We'd have quite the competition for him, but our offer would be loaded. I could see Edmonton putting together a really nice offer for his services as well as a few other teams.
- Rocktane

With the cap coming down I'm not sure the offers will be what they want. If Weber asks out tho, that's a whole different deal...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
Tomorrow is January 7, no chance the season starts January 15 as some are reporting.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
Four 1st's isn't exactly a disaster to a patient hockey fan tho. If there is such a thing.
- hereticpride


They're having trouble building a loyal fan base as it is.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
With the cap coming down I'm not sure the offers will be what they want. If Weber asks out tho, that's a whole different deal...
- hereticpride


Its a little sad whats going on there to me. They were building a nice team, and Suter leaves.

Not to mention bringing in the Tits brothers. That had me wondering.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
If you are small market team, you want to spend money on a goaltender and defenseman and build on that. Hell that should be the blueprint for every team.
- PLindbergh31


No doubt about that.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 6 @ 11:59 AM ET
No doubt about that.
- MJL


Nashville will not be a bad team this year. When you have a franchise goaltender and the best D man in the sport, those are solid building blocks. People expecting Nashville to be a terrible team are mistaken imo.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
Ive caught games online for free for years.

All while the NHL has been trying to get such outlets shut down.

They can go shove center ice...

- flyer_nutter

Yeah F Center Ice package. I always hated the fact the Philadelphia feed is NEVER an option. Constantly getting the other teams nonHD feed. NICE!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
Nashville will not be a bad team this year. When you have a franchise goaltender and the best D man in the sport, those are solid building blocks. People expecting Nashville to be a terrible team are mistaken imo.
- PLindbergh31

I don't expect them to be terrible. I just don't see how they ever get much better.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
Tomorrow is January 7, no chance the season starts January 15 as some are reporting.
- PLindbergh31

maybe but voting will be done by tuesday so camps can open by wed.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
I don't expect them to be terrible. I just don't see how they ever get much better.
- hereticpride


Well they did lose Suter who is a very good player, but there was no way they could pay both guys. They decided to pay the superior player which was the right choice.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
Yeah F Center Ice package. I always hated the fact the Philadelphia feed is NEVER an option. Constantly getting the other teams nonHD feed. NICE!
- Pixote Andolini


I will be honest that the Philly TV guys sometimes annoy me. Not the material but just the voice. Its a little too weak for my liking.

Im a Gord Miller kind of guy. Ive posted this here a few times but it always gives me chills.

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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:04 PM ET
maybe but voting will be done by tuesday so camps can open by wed.
- BingoLady


If camps open on 1/9, games beginning on 1/15 doesn't seem feasible to me.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
maybe but voting will be done by tuesday so camps can open by wed.
- BingoLady


Didnt Letang just sign overseas?
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
If camps open on 1/9, games beginning on 1/15 doesn't seem feasible to me.
- PLindbergh31

6 day camp is enough.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
Didnt Letang just sign overseas?
- flyer_nutter

nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
nothing like Setting aside the money to feed 15 hungry athletes dinner in Miami
Yikes!
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
I will be honest that the Philly TV guys sometimes annoy me. Not the material but just the voice. Its a little too weak for my liking.

Im a Gord Miller kind of guy. Ive posted this here a few times but it always gives me chills.


- flyer_nutter[url]

Oh hell yes G. Miller is a great call. So is Hughson, but I don't live in Canada so I'm stuck with calls from teams in the States. The Flyers broadcast can get annoying to me as well. Coates is pretty rough around the edges and Jackson's Flyers goggles are sometimes a little too ridiculous. One of the worst voices in the league has to be the Caps color guy. Haha I forget his name but jesus what an annoying voice.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jan 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
I'm guessing 50-game season starting on January 19th. I am interested to see the buyouts this summer and who becomes available.

For teams chasing Luongo, I'd offer minimal assets for him. If nobody takes a big swing at him, and why would they, Vancouver seriously considers buying him out this summer. Lou on a much shorter contract for free is enticing for a lot of teams. If we buy out Bryz and Lou gets bought out, any supporters of signing Lou on a 4-5 year deal for 5 mil per?

Players like Matt Read, capable of 20 goals for really cheap, are going to be even more prime assets for teams. If we can't re-sign him due to raises for G, Schenn, Coots, etc, I'm sure a lot of teams would make offers for him.

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