Not trying to be a Richard here but why in hell would be want PK??

He just seem like someone the Flyers wouldnt want on D - Is there no one else we can get??
- Flyers_1488

Absolutely he's someone the Flyers would want -- puck mover, offensive game, plays aggressively, not afraid to wear a target on his back.

He still makes a lot of mistakes of overaggression, both offensively and defensively, but can also play at a high level. His negotiation gap with the Habs boils down to paying top dollar based on projected future consistency vs. paying based on his career to date.

As for his demonstrative personality and showboating, teams can live with that if the guy performs on the ice.

James Mirtle is reporting that he "can 100% confirm the new CBA will include the cap benefit recapture formula. It will apply to existing deals "in excess of six years." "

The cap benefit recapture formula means that if a player signed a deal longer than six years, and retires prior to it's expiration, then teams will be penalized with a cap hit based on the remaining amount due to the player.

Here's Mirtle's column explaining the CBRF

http://www.theglobeandmai...erm-deals/article6251627/
- Jsaquella

Basically if we buyout Bryz and he retires before the end of his contract we get screwed. Your worst fears are confirmed!

Seravelli chimes in.


http://www.philly.com/phi..._it_s_a_short_season.html

Obviously this gives me hope that the Flyers will have a Norris finalist and Bryz wins the Vezina.

Basically if we buyout Bryz and he retires before the end of his contract we get screwed. Your worst fears are confirmed!
- NickTheKid87

No, I think if the deal is bought out on the amnesty plan, it goes away. However, if the guy stays on the roster....Hellzapoppin.

I'm trying to clarify if the other rule is in place, where the team that originally signed a long term deal is on the hook if a player retires early, because then Carter and Richards suddenly become a concern for the Flyers again.

No, I think if the deal is bought out on the amnesty plan, it goes away. However, if the guy stays on the roster....Hellzapoppin.

I'm trying to clarify if the other rule is in place, where the team that originally signed a long term deal is on the hook if a player retires early, because then Carter and Richards suddenly become a concern for the Flyers again.
- Jsaquella

If that's the case I will have nightmares for years. But that would certainly deter teams from signing older guys to long term deals to soften the cap hit. Teams should be grandfathered in though.

Basically if we buyout Bryz and he retires before the end of his contract we get screwed. Your worst fears are confirmed!
- NickTheKid87

It suggests that the signing team is responsible for all its bad contracts. Theoretically, the Flyers could have Pronger, Bryzgalov and Jeff Carter as cap hits on the final years of their deal if they retire early. Myrtle says contract reverts to original signing team if player opts for early retirement.

James Mirtle is reporting that he "can 100% confirm the new CBA will include the cap benefit recapture formula. It will apply to existing deals "in excess of six years." "

The cap benefit recapture formula means that if a player signed a deal longer than six years, and retires prior to it's expiration, then teams will be penalized with a cap hit based on the remaining amount due to the player.

Here's Mirtle's column explaining the CBRF

http://www.theglobeandmai...erm-deals/article6251627/
- Jsaquella

I am still holding out hope Weber is removed from Nashville in some way, shape or form. Doesn't have to be here but more of a hockey market.

James Mirtle is reporting that he "can 100% confirm the new CBA will include the cap benefit recapture formula. It will apply to existing deals "in excess of six years." "

The cap benefit recapture formula means that if a player signed a deal longer than six years, and retires prior to it's expiration, then teams will be penalized with a cap hit based on the remaining amount due to the player.

Here's Mirtle's column explaining the CBRF

http://www.theglobeandmai...erm-deals/article6251627/
- Jsaquella

It really irks me that they are penalizing teams for doing business within the old CBA. I get that they want to eliminate certain loopholes but I disagree with making teams pay for those deals when they were 100% legit at the time.

Bill just wondering if you had a chance to see Laughton play this year?Would like your opinion on him.i have watched him a couple of times.
- richiewinthecup

I've seen him play eight times -- nine if you include the Subway Series game he played. Also saw him several times during the Flyers prospect camp in July and covered the second of the two scrimmages for the Flyers' official site.

He's not very dynamic offensively -- regardless of recent junior numbers, I don't think he'll be a true top six in the NHL -- and needs to add muscle. But otherwise there's a lot to like. He's tenacious; an aggressive forechecker. He skates fairly well. He's responsible defensively.

It's not hard to look at him and see a future NHL player. A Western Conference scout's assessment of him as a future John Madden type seems more likely to me than the Flyers' comparisons to Mike Richards.

Basically if we buyout Bryz and he retires before the end of his contract we get screwed. Your worst fears are confirmed!
- NickTheKid87

Is Bettman acting in a punitive manner against the Flyers and a few other teams?

I am still holding out hope Weber is removed from Nashville in some way, shape or form. Doesn't have to be here but more of a hockey market.
- SuperSchennBros

Zero chance. The team didn't dole out $26 million worth of bonuses in 11 months just to turn around and let him go. He'll be a Predator for many, many years.

Zero chance. The team didn't dole out $26 million worth of bonuses in 11 months just to turn around and let him go. He'll be a Predator for many, many years.
- bmeltzer

Bill who do you think the Flyers should get for this season to solidify the blue line and who do you think they have to give up to do so...

Is Bettman acting in a punitive manner against the Flyers and a few other teams?
- spatso

I think the rule makes sense so that teams won't tack on years to lessen the cap hit. This way, annual salaries may stay reasonable as will contract lengths.

Is Bettman acting in a punitive manner against the Flyers and a few other teams?
- spatso

Sure seems that way. I do wonder if the deal applies to the team that originally signed the player. Mirtle's tweet didn't clarify that, and the column I posted was written before the adoption of the CBA.

I also doubt it would apply in the case of a deal bought out under the amnesty buyouts. Once a deal is bought out, it's terminated, no longer in existence.

No, I think if the deal is bought out on the amnesty plan, it goes away. However, if the guy stays on the roster....Hellzapoppin.

I'm trying to clarify if the other rule is in place, where the team that originally signed a long term deal is on the hook if a player retires early, because then Carter and Richards suddenly become a concern for the Flyers again.
- Jsaquella

Yes, I read it the same way. This is a bombshell. On the other hand, it is an enormous incentive to buy out the bad contracts that are back ended. It completely changes the way you look at the buy outs for next summer.

Is Bettman acting in a punitive manner against the Flyers and a few other teams?
- spatso

To a degree, yes. It's no secret he was livid over the loopholes teams found in his CBA of 2005 (which was initially touted as nearly airtight before teams quickly found the contract-length and variance loopholes). But I think he's also appeasing the small-market teams for delivering a higher cap ceiling than the $60M maximum he promised before the lockout. Now the teams with the grandfathered older-CBA contracts carry added risk on those deals.

I think the rule makes sense so that teams won't tack on years to lessen the cap hit. This way, annual salaries may stay reasonable as will contract lengths.
- NickTheKid87

The variance rules in place will do more to keep salaries in line with cap hit more than anything else.

Yes, I read it the same way. This is a bombshell. On the other hand, it is an enormous incentive to buy out the bad contracts that are back ended. It completely changes the way you look at the buy outs for next summer.
- spatso

Honestly, fear of this was my biggest argument for buying out Bryzgalov.

Sure seems that way. I do wonder if the deal applies to the team that originally signed the player. Mirtle's tweet didn't clarify that, and the column I posted was written before the adoption of the CBA.

I also doubt it would apply in the case of a deal bought out under the amnesty buyouts. Once a deal is bought out, it's terminated, no longer in existence.
- Jsaquella

I read the article. He used Jeff Carter as an example. If Carter retires early, the balance of his contract goes against the Flyers as they were the originators of the subject contract.

Bill who do you think the Flyers should get for this season to solidify the blue line and who do you think they have to give up to do so...
- Philly1980

We'll see what the buyout market brings this summer but it's otherwise a pretty weak UFA crop. The best RFA by leaps and bounds is Pietrangelo, but St. Louis will re-sign him.

Addressing the top pairing is going to take at least one blockbuster trade.

I've seen him play eight times -- nine if you include the Subway Series game he played. Also saw him several times during the Flyers prospect camp in July and covered the second of the two scrimmages for the Flyers' official site.

He's not very dynamic offensively -- regardless of recent junior numbers, I don't think he'll be a true top six in the NHL -- and needs to add muscle. But otherwise there's a lot to like. He's tenacious; an aggressive forechecker. He skates fairly well. He's responsible defensively.

It's not hard to look at him and see a future NHL player. A Western Conference scout's assessment of him as a future John Madden type seems more likely to me than the Flyers' comparisons to Mike Richards.
- bmeltzer

Seems like he was a bit of a stretch for the first round?

Zero chance. The team didn't dole out $26 million worth of bonuses in 11 months just to turn around and let him go. He'll be a Predator for many, many years.
- bmeltzer

That's a shame on a lot of different levels, starting with the player himself. I hope Nashville can stay consistent on putting an entertaining product on the ice but it willbe rough on them and Weber.

The variance rules in place will do more to keep salaries in line with cap hit more than anything else.
- Jsaquella

I agree but I think this rule will definitely help too. They needed to do something about it after the ludicrous deals that Parise & Suter got.

I read the article. He used Jeff Carter as an example. If Carter retires early, the balance of his contract goes against the Flyers as they were the originators of the subject contract.
- spatso

I get that, but I have yet to see if that rule was adopted. I know the NHLPA's CBRF was adopted, but it wasn't fully stated if "traded' contracts apply....I'd assume that they likely do, but would like a confirmation

Seems like he was a bit of a stretch for the first round?
- nastyflyergirl

Based on the CSS rankings, he was a bit of a stretch.