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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
totally agree...lockouts have huge repercussions; both tangible and intangible.
- LetsGoIsles



The more i read about Visnovsky, the more i dislike his make up. I love how for years he's made millions over here in the states, but now that he's at the end of his contract (half of the last year), and the money isnt as good, all of a sudden he doesnt feel the need to honor it. Its gutless..........i'd never let him play in an isles sweater, and if i were the isles i'd take legal action.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jan 9 @ 5:35 PM ET
http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/islanders-defenseman-doesnt-want-to-be-pushed-back-to-n-h-l/?smid=tw-nytimessports&seid=auto
- kindlyrick

Visnovsky is a p!ss face. What a douche. Jeez, man. Be professional and honor your contract! You tried to get out of coming to LI already and lost. Get over it! He acts as if its a punishment to be sent to the NHL to play hockey for $2M or so for four months. He acts as if LI is hell on Earth.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
Visnovsky is a p!ss face. What a douche. Jeez, man. Be professional and honor your contract! You tried to get out of coming to LI already and lost. Get over it! He acts as if its a punishment to be sent to the NHL to play hockey for $2M or so for four months. He acts as if LI is hell on Earth.
- Jethro09




He's not even embaressed to be acting like a prima donna. Reading his quotes are so aggrevating, because hes acting so unprofessional....

Im sooooo done with this guy......and quite frankly, i hate the name Lubimor, how bout THAT!!!!
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
the comments I saw were posted on islanderspointblank.com:

“NHL’s opinion of itself is so high… OK, let them get drunk on their greatness. We’ll see how many Euros look our way… Our league will act according to our own and international rules. If players decide to stay, we will help them… [Not going to Sochi] will be a big financial loss for NHL.. If they decide differently, that’s their problem.”


almost seemed like the KHL president got drunk and spoke to the media, although I'm sure it's a result of google translator.

Reinhart from the little I saw of the WJC was unimpressive. I know his points are low this year in juniors but from what I remember he's not playing first line power play minutes as his junior coach runs with 5 forwards on that unit. I did hear that they were happy with his defensive play in juniors but all reports I've seen suggest he needs to improve his footspeed in order to play at a higher level. I haven't seen enough of him myself to say one way or another and I'm certainly not a scout. I do think with all suggested info that the Isles have no business rushing him this season, it just doesn't sound like he's even remotely ready.

Strome is a much tougher call and will depend how he is at camp.

http://slapshot.blogs.nyt...timessports&seid=auto

another interesting article. woe is me LV. Piss off.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 9 @ 5:54 PM ET
Its almost here. Finally we get to see captain Jack back behind the bench.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 9 @ 5:55 PM ET
Yes I would def do that. Poulin and Nilson can hold it down for 48 games.
- kindlyrick

If you want to guarantee the first overall, then yes. They can hold it down for 48 games.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 9 @ 5:57 PM ET
so we are not making the playoffs...

the islanders 1st selection of the 2013 draft is;

D Seth Jones

see you at the draft ......

- Ur Not Me

No Seth Jones. Not at #1.
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Jan 9 @ 5:58 PM ET
thats just not true...

Boston Bruins
Adam McQuaid (blood clot in arm) questionable
Jordan Caron (upper body) out three weeks

Buffalo Sabres
Nathan Gerbe (back surgery) questionable

Calgary Flames
Roman Cervenka (blood clot) out indefinitely

Carolina Hurricanes
Tuomo Ruutu (hip surgery) out indefinitely

Detroit Red Wings
Carlo Colaiacovo (shoulder) 2-4 weeks
Patrick Eaves (concussion) out indefinitely

Edmonton Oilers
Ryan Jones (eye) out indefinitely
Nikolai Khabibulin (hip surgery) could be cleared before start of the season

Los Angeles Kings
Anze Kopitar (wrist) out 2-3 weeks
Willie Mitchell (knee) questionable

Montreal Canadiens
Tomas Plekanec (ribs) likely ready for training camp

Nashville Predators
Gabriel Bourque (lower body) questionable

New Jersey Devils
Adam Henrique (thumb) out indefinitely

N.Y. Islanders
Travis Hamonic (concussion) questionable -- (who is already skating with contact)

N.Y. Rangers
Mike Sauer (concussion) out indefinitely

Ottawa Senators
Jared Cowen (hip surgery) out for season
Mike Lundin (broken finger) questionable

Philadelphia Flyers
Danny Briere (wrist) will miss first week of season
Chris Pronger (concussion) out indefinitely
Andrej Meszaros (Achilles) questionable

Phoenix Coyotes
Raffi Torres (suspended)

San Jose Sharks
Brent Burns (groin surgery)
Jason Demers (fractured wrist) out at least two more weeks
Justin Braun (hand) out indefinitely

Toronto Maple Leafs
Jake Gardiner (concussion) out indefinitely

Vancouver Canucks
Ryan Kesler (wrist and shoulder surgeries) out indefinitely

Winnipeg Jets
Zach Bogosian (wrist surgery) out indefinitely

- LetsGoIsles

there's always one...
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 5:59 PM ET
If you want to guarantee the first overall, then yes. They can hold it down for 48 games.
- eichiefs9




I didnt realize Nabakov was a cup contending goaltender.
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:01 PM ET
the comments I saw were posted on islanderspointblank.com:

“NHL’s opinion of itself is so high… OK, let them get drunk on their greatness. We’ll see how many Euros look our way… Our league will act according to our own and international rules. If players decide to stay, we will help them…

- Isles_since_6[Not going to Sochi] will be a big financial loss for NHL.. If they decide differently, that’s their problem.”


almost seemed like the KHL president got drunk and spoke to the media, although I'm sure it's a result of google translator.

Reinhart from the little I saw of the WJC was unimpressive. I know his points are low this year in juniors but from what I remember he's not playing first line power play minutes as his junior coach runs with 5 forwards on that unit. I did hear that they were happy with his defensive play in juniors but all reports I've seen suggest he needs to improve his footspeed in order to play at a higher level. I haven't seen enough of him myself to say one way or another and I'm certainly not a scout. I do think with all suggested info that the Isles have no business rushing him this season, it just doesn't sound like he's even remotely ready.

Strome is a much tougher call and will depend how he is at camp.

http://slapshot.blogs.nyt...w-nytimessports&seid=auto

another interesting article. woe is me LV. Piss off.

Reinhart's WJC was horrible. He looked slow, bad decisions with the puck, uneasy and could never settle the play down and lead a successful breakout. Strome, he's up he's down. There's really no rush, it's not like we're ready for a cup run.

Reinhart and Strome shouldn't crack the lineup until 2014-2015 season.
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:03 PM ET
The more i read about Visnovsky, the more i dislike his make up. I love how for years he's made millions over here in the states, but now that he's at the end of his contract (half of the last year), and the money isnt as good, all of a sudden he doesnt feel the need to honor it. Its gutless..........i'd never let him play in an isles sweater, and if i were the isles i'd take legal action.
- kindlyrick

Snow should just call em up and be like,

"listen turkey tits, get your ass over here and I'll trade you somewhere. Give me a list and I'll see what I can do but you need to report."
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:03 PM ET
No Seth Jones. Not at #1.
- eichiefs9



Not to really get into this cause its a ridiculous argument, but how do you say no seth jones at #1? Are you one of those people who read that Nate Mackinnon is a great player and should go number 1? Look at Seth Jones size, skill and pedigree........those three reasons alone, have him in a league of his own.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:04 PM ET
Snow should just call em up and be like,

"listen turkey tits, get your ass over here and I'll trade you somewhere. Give me a list and I'll see what I can do but you need to report."

- Mr.Black




hahahahahahah turkey tits......im dying. Thats why this is such a ridiculous response by him. Act like a man......this is a pro sport. You've been paid like a pro, act like one..
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:05 PM ET
Reinhart's WJC was horrible. He looked slow, bad decisions with the puck, uneasy and could never settle the play down and lead a successful breakout. Strome, he's up he's down. There's really no rush, it's not like we're ready for a cup run.

Reinhart and Strome shouldn't crack the lineup until 2014-2015 season.

- Mr.Black



I dunno man, I really feel Strome can play at the NHL level right now...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
based on the updated comments from the KHL president, kiss LV goodbye. He's not coming back.

So the Isles D:

streit
amac
carkner
hamonic
donovan/ness/martinek?/reinhart?

fugly. Get us some help Garth. That's not gonna win many games.

I expect that Reinhart gets sent back to juniors, Martinek is signed and donovan/ness end up filling the 6 and 7 spots. As soon as Martinek is injured, Ness and Donovan both in the lineup.

- Isles_since_6

We have a comedian amongst us today
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
Snow should just call em up and be like,

"listen turkey tits, get your ass over here and I'll trade you somewhere. Give me a list and I'll see what I can do but you need to report."

- Mr.Black




Not sure how it works exactly, but if he doesnt report, im pretty sure the isles get back that 2nd pick.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:09 PM ET
Not to really get into this cause its a ridiculous argument, but how do you say no seth jones at #1? Are you one of those people who read that Nate Mackinnon is a great player and should go number 1? Look at Seth Jones size, skill and pedigree........those three reasons alone, have him in a league of his own.
- kindlyrick

Here's your list of defensemen taken at #1:

Rick Pagnutti
Denis Potvin
Greg Joly
Rick Green
Rob Ramage
Gord Kluzak
Roman Hamrlik
Ed Jovanovski
Bryan Berard
Chris Phillips
Erik Johnson

Since you will inevitably ask me what my point is...it's way harder to gauge how good a defensemen is going to be at that age than it is to judge a forward. I don't want to spend a 1st overall pick on a guy who "might" be an elite defensemen, when we could draft a forward that will likely have a better chance of becoming elite.

So no, I was not one of those people that "read MacKinnon should be number 1 so that's my opinion."
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
Its almost here. Finally we get to see captain Jack back behind the bench.
- mighty13duck

I can't wait!
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:11 PM ET
I dunno man, I really feel Strome can play at the NHL level right now...
- kindlyrick

not saying I'm an NHL scout or anything but I've been a ticket holder for the Ice Doggs for a while and I've watched him play alot of hockey and I don't think he's ready. Dougie Hamilton is more ready than he is. Strome has tremendous talent at the junior level but he's not as dominant as he needs to be for him to take that next step.

If Strome was NHL ready he would be a force, an x factor but he isn't. Strome fits right in with his team and doesn't stand out, no more than Hamilton. As I stated in a previous post, there's no rush. The Isles are years away from anything significant. I would rather Strome get his shot in the AHL for an entire year and maybe get a taste once and a while as a call up.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:15 PM ET
Here's your list of defensemen taken at #1:

Rick Pagnutti
Denis Potvin
Greg Joly
Rick Green
Rob Ramage
Gord Kluzak
Roman Hamrlik
Ed Jovanovski
Bryan Berard
Chris Phillips
Erik Johnson

Since you will inevitably ask me what my point is...it's way harder to gauge how good a defensemen is going to be at that age than it is to judge a forward. I don't want to spend a 1st overall pick on a guy who "might" be an elite defensemen, when we could draft a forward that will likely have a better chance of becoming elite.

So no, I was not one of those people that "read MacKinnon should be number 1 so that's my opinion."

- eichiefs9




Thats cool man, and i totally respect your opinion on here. But, my thing is, you have a kid in Seth Jones who is 18 years old, 6 ft 3, 200 lbs, who's dad was in the NBA. He's already a standout on the ice, with his skill and add to that the fact that he's only gonna get bigger. To me, you've got a special player. The isles have that special player up front......that if they had the chance to pick first overall, to me, Seth Jones is the guy.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:21 PM ET
Thats cool man, and i totally respect your opinion on here. But, my thing is, you have a kid in Seth Jones who is 18 years old, 6 ft 3, 200 lbs, who's dad was in the NBA. He's already a standout on the ice, with his skill and add to that the fact that he's only gonna get bigger. To me, you've got a special player. The isles have that special player up front......that if they had the chance to pick first overall, to me, Seth Jones is the guy.
- kindlyrick

I get it, I'm not trying to say you're stupid for wanting him or anything. Just that I'm going with the historically more reliable route of drafting "high-end" forward talent over "high-end" defensive/goaltending talent, because it's typically easier to project.

Erik Johnson had that size when he was drafted too. He's a good NHL defenseman, but nowhere near worthy of a 1st overall pick. He was drafted ahead of J. Staal, Toews, Backstrom (Caps), Kessel, and Giroux. In fairness, 21 other teams passed on Giroux too. I'd take any of those guys in a heartbeat ahead of Johnson.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
I get it, I'm not trying to say you're stupid for wanting him or anything. Just that I'm going with the historically more reliable route of drafting "high-end" forward talent over "high-end" defensive/goaltending talent, because it's typically easier to project.

Erik Johnson had that size when he was drafted too. He's a good NHL defenseman, but nowhere near worthy of a 1st overall pick. He was drafted ahead of J. Staal, Toews, Backstrom (Caps), Kessel, and Giroux. In fairness, 21 other teams passed on Giroux too. I'd take any of those guys in a heartbeat ahead of Johnson.

- eichiefs9



You've also never had a NBA guys son on skates.......i like that combination of size, skill and athleticism.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
You've also never had a NBA guys son on skates.......i like that combination of size, skill and athleticism.
- kindlyrick

To me, the fact that his dad was a professional basketball player is completely irrelevant. He's his own athlete.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
To me, the fact that his dad was a professional basketball player is completely irrelevant. He's his own athlete.
- eichiefs9




Its absolutely not irrelevant.........watch him skate. His father was 6'8 250 lbs. This kid is only 18 and is still gonna grow for a few more years. Say he reaches 6'5, and has his athleticism.......he's gonna be a force. Not to mention his old man had him get strength skating lessons at joe sakics suggestion. We can agree to disagree, but this Seth Jones is gonna be a special player in the NHL.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:49 PM ET
For everyone banking on retirement/insurance to solve this mess, I give you the annual "I feel great/I'm confident and ready to go" article.

http://aol.sportingnews.c...nders-brooklyn-training-c

We have to face it, this situation can be resolved by one man and one man only: Charles Wang. But unfortunately he's one of the only two people on the planet who still doesn't think the deal is a mistake. DP is the other. Well, three people if we count X.

- UIF


Hey the deal isnt the problem.... the player & the owner.....

XxNYIxX
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