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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 3:21 PM ET
Does anyone think Nashville will buy out Weber after this 1/2 season?
- Jimmygrazz

I know his salary is a burden but I can't see them matching then buying him out. That would make zero sense.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 3:30 PM ET
I think those two could be serious trouble for other teams. Voracek got a ton of attention last year in the playoffs. Elias even going as far to say he was the second best player on the team.
- jak521

I would prefer to see Briere and Voracek together. Briere is the closest thing we have to a proven sniper and is more likely to adjust his game to compliment Jake. I could be wrong, just my opinion.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
When JVR scores 50 goals and Schenn is still the fourth Defenseman on the Flyers or has been traded again I'll call you and we'll have beers. Many Beers. But not in Pittsburgh.
- mayorofangrytown


JVR will never ever get to even 30.... Book it. He is a lazy (frank). Potential is there but work ethic is not.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
I would prefer to see Briere and Voracek together. Briere is the closest thing we have to a proven sniper and is more likely to adjust his game to compliment Jake. I could be wrong, just my opinion.
- SuperSchennBros

I think Voracek is brings something very similar to what Jagr brought. I also think Jagr's puck controlling skills were a great compliment to G's game.. and allowed him to really find open space. Voracek should do the same..
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 3:48 PM ET
JVR will never ever get to even 30.... Book it. He is a lazy (frank). Potential is there but work ethic is not.
- Philly1980

well someone is in mid-season form.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 3:50 PM ET
well someone is in mid-season form.
- jak521



Hell be a bust when he does nothing this year. Maybe hell have another phantom concussion.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 3:51 PM ET
I think Voracek is brings something very similar to what Jagr brought. I also think Jagr's puck controlling skills were a great compliment to G's game.. and allowed him to really find open space. Voracek should do the same..
- jak521

Well I wish chemistry was automatic and goal scoring came natural to every player. When Giroux first started playing for the Flyers, him and Briere were suppose to soul mates. They were suppose to stay together and it never happened. Voracek I do not believe plays like Jagr at all. Jagr is heavy and carry players on his back while he stick handles with one arm. Jake will have to come along way to reach this level.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 3:51 PM ET
Hell be a bust when he does nothing this year. Maybe hell have another phantom concussion.
- Philly1980

I could see 15 goals and 15 assists...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
Well I wish chemistry was automatic and goal scoring came natural to every player. When Giroux first started playing for the Flyers, him and Briere were suppose to soul mates. They were suppose to stay together and it never happened. Voracek I do not believe plays like Jagr at all. Jagr is heavy and carry players on his back while he stick handles with one arm. Jake will have to come along way to reach this level.
- SuperSchennBros

Maybe we watch two different players? Jakes puck control skills are superb, hell, border line dominant at times.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 3:54 PM ET
Voracek is clearly a gifted player but until he convincingly scores 20 plus goals and 50 plus points in two seasons, I would rather upgrade if possible. I just don't like his price tag. With Bouemeester, at least he's done things for his own personal stats to fool us all. For the moment, we are still waiting on that break out season for Jake. I feel it should have happened by now.
- SuperSchennBros



Can't afford to upgrade with another high priced player at Wing. Need to save those cap assets to upgrade the defense. Every player develops at his own pace. I'm all for giving the kid a chance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 3:59 PM ET
I would prefer to see Briere and Voracek together. Briere is the closest thing we have to a proven sniper and is more likely to adjust his game to compliment Jake. I could be wrong, just my opinion.
- SuperSchennBros


I think they'd be good on a line also. And it's another option. But right now Jake is the best pick for the top line. We'll see how it works out.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 4:00 PM ET
JVR will never ever get to even 30.... Book it. He is a lazy (frank). Potential is there but work ethic is not.
- Philly1980

Yep! All the kid does in bust it every summer to get stronger and fill out his frame. His rise to second overall pick in the draft was built on long walks on the beach, milkshakes and cupcakes.

Gotcha.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 4:01 PM ET
I think they'd be good on a line also. And it's another option. But right now Jake is the best pick for the top line. We'll see how it works out.
- MJL

I'd like to see Schenn there myself.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 4:02 PM ET
Well I wish chemistry was automatic and goal scoring came natural to every player. When Giroux first started playing for the Flyers, him and Briere were suppose to soul mates. They were suppose to stay together and it never happened. Voracek I do not believe plays like Jagr at all. Jagr is heavy and carry players on his back while he stick handles with one arm. Jake will have to come along way to reach this level.
- SuperSchennBros



Voracek can control and pass the puck well. And he brings an element that Jagr didn't bring. And that's speed. Voracek can play a high tempo game and can forecheck better then Jagr.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
Maybe we watch two different players? Jakes puck control skills are superb, hell, border line dominant at times.
- jak521

I never said they weren't. What I am saying is Jagr is on his own level, even at his age.
kej83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oc, NJ
Joined: 10.19.2010

Jan 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
JVR will never ever get to even 30.... Book it. He is a lazy (frank). Potential is there but work ethic is not.
- Philly1980


when he wanted to play he was a beast, most of the time time he was cherry picking doing circles between the red line and the opponents blue line waiting for a shot at a breakaway from a 2 line pass
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 4:05 PM ET
I'd like to see Schenn there myself.
- mayorofangrytown

I wouldnt mind Schenn, but Id rather see him with Simmonds and maybe Couts.. all depends on how things shake out and how they plan on using him...

Hartnell-G-Jake
Simmonds-Couts-Schenn
Feds-Briere-Read
Rinaldo-Talbot-?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 4:06 PM ET
I'd like to see Schenn there myself.
- mayorofangrytown

I want to see what Brayden Schenn can do with Giroux myself. I want to see them both together and apart.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 4:08 PM ET
I wouldnt mind Schenn, but Id rather see him with Simmonds and maybe Couts.. all depends on how things shake out and how they plan on using him...

Hartnell-G-Jake
Simmonds-Couts-Schenn
Feds-Briere-Read
Rinaldo-Talbot-?

- jak521



Have to switch Couturier and Briere there. Fedetenko and Read are better defensive players and are a better fit with Couturier. And I'd personally move Fedetneko to the 4th line and put Talbot with Couturier.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
I like the tweets from that adiran dater guy basically calling Homer I liar because he is denying the Luongo Rumour. LOL



http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ngo_interest_eberle_role/
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 4:11 PM ET
Voracek can control and pass the puck well. And he brings an element that Jagr didn't bring. And that's speed. Voracek can play a high tempo game and can forecheck better then Jagr.
- MJL

Sure. I have no doubt Giroux and Voracek we'll play together at somepoint. They may even start the season together but I'm not gonna guarantee they'll work. I happen to believe the future of this team lies within Giroux and Brayden Schenn but I could also be wrong.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 4:11 PM ET
Yep! All the kid does in bust it every summer to get stronger and fill out his frame. His rise to second overall pick in the draft was built on long walks on the beach, milkshakes and cupcakes.

Gotcha.

- mayorofangrytown

pffff hell fizzle out in toronto...Here he was playing with talent...There ???

He was a waste of a second overall.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 4:12 PM ET
Have to switch Couturier and Briere there. Fedetenko and Read are better defensive players and are a better fit with Couturier. And I'd personally move Fedetneko to the 4th line and put Talbot with Couturier.
- MJL

Yea I agree.. I just think it would be interesting to see an S-C-S line.. they would be a bear to play against..


I wonder who the 11th & 12th forwards will be... I assume Rinadlo and?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
when he wanted to play he was a beast, most of the time time he was cherry picking doing circles between the red line and the opponents blue line waiting for a shot at a breakaway from a 2 line pass
- kej83



Yes i didnt say he was talented its his work ethic i questioned....He didnt like to get his hands dirty.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
when he wanted to play he was a beast, most of the time time he was cherry picking doing circles between the red line and the opponents blue line waiting for a shot at a breakaway from a 2 line pass
- kej83



Yes i didnt say he was talented its his work ethic i questioned....He didnt like to get his hands dirty.
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