I don't remember getting schooled so bad by a computer generated opponent in a sports game since The first time I played tecmo bowl. Forget about manual shooting too. Omg that was like trying to hit flies with darts.
- JoeRussomanno

The shot aiming is exactly what throws me off! First, it's the 'move skater' stick, then all at once it becomes the aiming stick? Not happening, not in this brain of mine.

Call me one of those people that would rather not see G and Czech play on the same line. They're the same player....puck control, pass first players. I dunno...I just feel like they would "get in each others' way" on the ice....

Maybe the top 2 lines could see Schenner and Czechy switch?:

Schenn-G-Hartsy
Simmer-Briere-Czech

Schenn is a more offensively diverse player than Voracek is (as in, he's not primarily anything....he's more well rounded per se. Not saying he's a better player than Czech is- just comparing playing styles), and I think playing with the elite playmaker in G and a crash the net power forward type in Hartsy, he could find some good chemistry getting a pass from G, taking a hard shot, and seeing Scotty Hair bury the rebound

For the second line, it's the same type of deal- Simmer parks in front of the net, and Czechy makes it happen by being the playmaker to Briere on the backdoor.

I dunno. It's not that I'm vehemently against a Czech-G-Hartsy top line....I just think by putting G and Czech on the same line Lavy wouldn't be using his resources to their fullest potential. All this being said, though, if I see those 3 out as our 1st line, I'm not going to complain in the slightest.

As for D...in my opinion, there isn't much speculation here...I think we could all agree that Lavy would be foolish to split up the wrecking crew that was the Coburn/Grossmann pair last year, and I think it's a no brainer to pair stay at home Schenner #2 with the puck mover/most complete package dman on the team in Kimmo (He is, after all, the Finnish God of Defense ). That's on a strictly hockey basis though- maybe even more importantly, as has been brought up, is putting the young, still maturing Schenn next to an archetype mentor in Kimmo.

Which leaves a pile of dogpoop for our 3rd pair

Sorry for my blabbering fellas. Just my take on things. Can't wait for a white gameday jersey
- Giroux_Is_God

I love the idea of Schenn on the first line....I also wonder if Hartnell and Briere will be re-united to even things out if all the scoring comes from the first line...I remember those two with Leino, looking pretty good for a run....Schenn, Read, Couturier, Talbot all are pretty versitle guys....Flyers are lucky that way, they have parts (up front) that can move around and not look out of place.

The shot aiming is exactly what throws me off! First, it's the 'move skater' stick, then all at once it becomes the aiming stick? Not happening, not in this brain of mine.
- BulliesPhan87

If they had an auto feature for face offs that be great too. I'm sure it would beat my 6%

If jake ever learns to finish that trade might get Columbus shutdown for good and their old GM under investigation for some kind of fraud.

Edit: btw what the hell is a ply and snp? Plywood and sandpaper? Sorry I'm about two or three generations behind in video games. I can lay some smack down in halo tho :lol:
- JoeRussomanno

Abbreviations are used for player types in the NHL games since 2006 I believe:

PLY = playmaker
SNP = sniper
PWF = power forward
GRN = grinder
TWF = two way forward
TGH = tough guy
DFD = defensive defenseman
OFD = offensive defenseman
TWD = two way defenseman
BUT = butterfly goalie
STD = stand up goalie
HYB = hybrid goalie

I see what you're saying but I think that tends to come from the NHL 13 kind of viewpoint where a PLY and a SNP work better than two PLYs. I don't think that's necessarily true in real life. Giroux has a good shot and can easier benefit from a puck mover like Jake (as he did with Jagr).

Sometimes stats can throw us off in an odd way. If Giroux were to pick up 35 G-65 A over 82 games and a guy like Matt Read scored 30 G-25 A, Read would seem like more of a goal scorer because he had more goals than assists while, in truth, G is the better goal scorer. We'd love to have Jake play with a guy he could help score 30 goals but we don't think of G as the guy, given his playmaking abilities.
- NickTheKid87

I have another option that has not been covered yet. I would be really surprised if Sean Couturier was put on rw with Giroux and Hartnell you would have the sniper that Voracek is not. Just watching Couter bury those pp goals in Adirondack and the fact that he is so good defensively is making his offense appear underated in my opinon. Couter on any other team would be the future #1 center and in my opinion only the ceiling is higher for Sean than it is for Brayden. (and they are both going to be stars for a long time)

stupid question.......are the players being paid their entire salary or just a pro-rated salary over 99 days? how is the daily cap being calculated this year?
- nastyflyergirl

Not stupid at all....they are paid based on 48/82 or 58.5 % of their salary....and I beleive the "make whole" provision protects them against an escrow clawback.

hopefully, Laughton can do a Coots so Homer can make a trade for a Dman... the thought of Lilja and Gervais makes my stomach churn

hopefully, Laughton can do a Coots so Homer can make a trade for a Dman... the thought of Lilja and Gervais makes my stomach churn
- vejim

veeeeeeeeej

Abbreviations are used for player types in the NHL games since 2006 I believe:

PLY = playmaker
SNP = sniper
PWF = power forward
GRN = grinder
TWF = two way forward
TGH = tough guy
DFD = defensive defenseman
OFD = offensive defenseman
TWD = two way defenseman
BUT = butterfly goalie
STD = stand up goalie
HYB = hybrid goalie
- NickTheKid87

The things you learn......

hopefully, Laughton can do a Coots so Homer can make a trade for a Dman... the thought of Lilja and Gervais makes my stomach churn
- vejim

Yep. I think we are going to trade from our forward depth and maybe picks to get a Dman. I'd prefer to do a hockey trade for a young stud D man even if it is gonna cost a young forward. Not sure the UFA route can get it done. When Nashville goes bankrupt, we can poach Weber..

veeeeeeeeej
- aightwebang17

got to love Aight and Coots

I disagree as I would keep Simmons over Read anyday. You do not find tough in your face players that are as colorful as Wayne. He was born to be a Flyer as he plays tough hockey and backs down from no one. That being said Read should be kept as well because he has great skill and a great rookie year to maybe build on.
- flyerdude17

Oh you're gonna play THAT card!!?



I agree with the born to be a Flyer sentiment. When I heard we also got him in the Richards deal I was pretty psyched.

I have another option that has not been covered yet. I would be really surprised if Sean Couturier was put on rw with Giroux and Hartnell you would have the sniper that Voracek is not. Just watching Couter bury those pp goals in Adirondack and the fact that he is so good defensively is making his offense appear underated in my opinon. Couter on any other team would be the future #1 center and in my opinion only the ceiling is higher for Sean than it is for Brayden. (and they are both going to be stars for a long time)
- flyerdude17

I agree with you that Couts offense seems to get overshadowed by his defense. I think he could easily be a 25-30 goal 65-70 point guy in the prime of his career as well as playing Selke-level defense. However, I think using him at center is more valuable than playing him on the wing, even with Giroux. I'd rather have Schenn, Voracek or Read up there with G & Hartsy than Couts.

I see what you're saying but I think that tends to come from the NHL 13 kind of viewpoint where a PLY and a SNP work better than two PLYs. I don't think that's necessarily true in real life. Giroux has a good shot and can easier benefit from a puck mover like Jake (as he did with Jagr).

Sometimes stats can throw us off in an odd way. If Giroux were to pick up 35 G-65 A over 82 games and a guy like Matt Read scored 30 G-25 A, Read would seem like more of a goal scorer because he had more goals than assists while, in truth, G is the better goal scorer. We'd love to have Jake play with a guy he could help score 30 goals but we don't think of G as the guy, given his playmaking abilities.
- NickTheKid87

Good point. If you're truly an elite player, you'll make everyone around you better. Even if that player plays a very similar game....

Abbreviations are used for player types in the NHL games since 2006 I believe:

PLY = playmaker
SNP = sniper
PWF = power forward
GRN = grinder
TWF = two way forward
TGH = tough guy
DFD = defensive defenseman
OFD = offensive defenseman
TWD = two way defenseman
BUT = butterfly goalie
STD = stand up goalie
HYB = hybrid goalie
- NickTheKid87

look this is what your dealing with here,






sorry I'm a fossil
Thanks again tho, I will try to look into the science of modern day gaming.

Good point. If you're truly an elite player, you'll make everyone around you better. Even if that player plays a very similar game....
- Giroux_Is_God

The way I see it, G helps Hartnell score, Voracek helps G score and G helps both score.

look this is what your dealing with here,






sorry I'm a fossil
- JoeRussomanno

I have some hockey games for Super Nintendo and played them over the Summer. It's just REALLY hard to go back to the old games after playing the new ones for me.

I agree with you that Couts offense seems to get overshadowed by his defense. I think he could easily be a 25-30 goal 65-70 point guy in the prime of his career as well as playing Selke-level defense. However, I think using him at center is more valuable than playing him on the wing, even with Giroux. I'd rather have Schenn, Voracek or Read up there with G & Hartsy than Couts.
- NickTheKid87

People forget how much of a highlight reel he was in the Q....

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=115908

Good point. If you're truly an elite player, you'll make everyone around you better. Even if that player plays a very similar game....
- Giroux_Is_God

Another example, though not an 'elite' one, is putting Hartnell and Simmonds on the same powerplay unit last year. They brought very similar elements, but it worked out pretty well.

I have some hockey games for Super Nintendo and played them over the Summer. It's just REALLY hard to go back to the old games after playing the new ones for me.
- NickTheKid87

I think my brother had Brett Hull hockey that. Al Michaels "One Timer! Score!"

People forget how much of a highlight reel he was in the Q....

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=115908
- Giroux_Is_God

I don't think anyone forgets, they just realize its gonna take him some time to accelerate his game at the NHL level.

People forget how much of a highlight reel he was in the Q....

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=115908
- Giroux_Is_God

I know all about Couts' career in the Q. I hope he can put up numbers close to those in the NHL but I don't see him being a 40 goal threat on a consistent basis. I'm thinking more along the lines of a Jordan Staal with more ice time and consequently more offense.

I think my brother had Brett Hull hockey that. Al Michaels "One Timer! Score!"
- JoeRussomanno

I have Wayne Gretzky hockey which didn't have licensing from the NHL so all the teams were just named after the cities but with the right players. there was also a glitch were if you skated along the far boards (it had a broadcast view) you couldn't be touched and you could come in behind the D.

that 3rd d pairing is friggin scary

I know all about Couts' career in the Q. I hope he can put up numbers close to those in the NHL but I don't see him being a 40 goal threat on a consistent basis. I'm thinking more along the lines of a Jordan Staal with more ice time and consequently more offense.
- NickTheKid87

I think Staal is an excellent comparison.