I disagree. I think he out did himself with the "Lifetime Channel" post. classic


- Charlie21

I missed that one. Thanks for the heads up

I have moved on from teh contract, the steroid thing yeah that is a different story. Him being arrogant on the ice is another thing.
- kasperrko

I get why you want him gone... but I dont get why cutting him now is going to improve the Isles chances of winning. Obviously they dont think any goalie in the system is ready yet. Cutting him would just mean paying some older washed up player a lot of money to reach the cap floor...

You guys just go on and on about the whole DP situation as if its the only reason the Isles suck... Guess what, if they buy him out during the summer, the Isles are probably still going to suck for a few years...

Alright, Ill try to continue this awesome convo after I get out of a meeting...

Folks better have some solid proof, or at least provide some sort of link, before they start throwing the steroid stuff around. This is how garbage Internet rumors get going. Now someone on another site says something like, "I saw it around at other sites that he was using steroids."

I get why you want him gone... but I dont get why cutting him now is going to improve the Isles chances of winning. Obviously they dont think any goalie in the system is ready yet. Cutting him would just mean paying some older washed up player a lot of money to reach the cap floor...

You guys just go on and on about the whole DP situation as if its the only reason the Isles suck... Guess what, if they buy him out during the summer, the Isles are probably still going to suck for a few years...

Alright, Ill try to continue this awesome convo after I get out of a meeting...
- Bags502

See I disagree but it is ok. I think the Islanders would actually be a better team with out him. They dont have to worry about him anymore in any way shape or form. He is basically the only guy left from the Milbury days and well I think the Islanders the only way they can move forward is drop him off

Folks better have some solid proof, or at least provide some sort of link, before they start throwing the steroid stuff around. This is how garbage Internet rumors get going. Now someone on another site says something like, "I saw it around at other sites that he was using steroids."
- UIF

It is there I beleive Millbury made mention of it. If you look the ineternet have plenty of stories about it. Islanders made it hush hush, Remeber Sean Hill when he was on steroids he was not alone my friend

Folks better have some solid proof, or at least provide some sort of link, before they start throwing the steroid stuff around. This is how garbage Internet rumors get going. Now someone on another site says something like, "I saw it around at other sites that he was using steroids."
- UIF

Who cares? Rumor has been out there forever and it seems pretty legit. There is not always proof. Injury history says it all. It's a bit abnormal.

None of who u mentioned would be near enough for Ben or subban. Even if you packaged every person you mentioned it wouldn't be enough.
- Cptmjl

I strongly dislike the idea of trading Kyle Okposo.

Okposo stats:
2008-09 New York Islanders NHL 65 18 21 39 36 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Bridgeport Sound Tigers AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 1 0 1 2
2009-10 New York Islanders NHL 80 19 33 52 34 -23 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 New York Islanders NHL 38 5 15 20 40 3 -- -- -- -- -- shoulder injury
2011-12 New York Islanders NHL 79 24 21 45 46 -15 -- -- -- -- --

Benn stats:
2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL 82 22 19 41 45 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Texas Stars AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 24 14 12 26 22
2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL 69 22 34 56 52 -5 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Dallas Stars NHL 71 26 37 63 55 15 -- -- -- -- --

really? Kyle Okposo is that much worse than Jamie Benn? Keep in mind that Okposo is signed long term, scored 2 less goals last year in his first full year after a major shoulder injury. How is Benn a massive improvement? Assists? PA had how many assists playing with Tavares?

Some of you on here have the patience of Mike Milbury. Your comment about not being able to package everyone listed and trade them for Benn is as ridiculous as your lack of hockey knowledge earlier saying that LV should be sent to the AHL if he reports.

Offensively if KO slots into the first line winger next to JT we're hurting for a second line center and winger and our defense is still weak. Benn doesn't solve that issue if we have to trade Okposo plus more to get him.

PK Subban would be a better choice. That being said, his career high is 38 points, less than Mark Streit had last year in a season that wasn't one of his good ones. I don't necessarily think Subban is worth trading away a roster player or two, plus prospects, plus picks.

I don't know what the answer is for this team if you're looking to win right away. If we deal a roster player or two plus prospects/picks we're creating more holes, it's not like one player is going to propel us into the playoffs. The Isles aren't that close. LA was able to trade for Carter because they had enough NHL defensemen that Jack Johnson wasn't needed. Our depth is laughable on defense compared to that. Our depth up front is also very shallow. Until any of these prospects actually make the team and contribute in a meaningful way, we're moving around deck chairs on the titanic.

If we trade KO, Strome and a pick (as an example, I think this would be a massive overpayment) for Benn, we now have Benn playing with JT, and we still have a lack of depth on the wing past him, and we lose whatever Strome might end up being.

Usually you can make a trade using your depth and say "well we can afford to give up KO (as an example), because we have (blank) ready to step in and contribute"

who's (blank)? No one is ready enough to contribute meaningful minutes and put up meaningful numbers.

Who's going to fill that hole if we traded KO for Subban as part of a package? Nino with his 1 goal last year and rebuilding his fragile confidence in the AHL? Strome who hasn't played in the NHL yet at all? Ulstrom?

You may be able to make a deal but you're going to create a hole elsewhere.

I strongly dislike the idea of trading Kyle Okposo.

Okposo stats:
2008-09 New York Islanders NHL 65 18 21 39 36 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Bridgeport Sound Tigers AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 1 0 1 2
2009-10 New York Islanders NHL 80 19 33 52 34 -23 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 New York Islanders NHL 38 5 15 20 40 3 -- -- -- -- -- shoulder injury
2011-12 New York Islanders NHL 79 24 21 45 46 -15 -- -- -- -- --

Benn stats:
2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL 82 22 19 41 45 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Texas Stars AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 24 14 12 26 22
2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL 69 22 34 56 52 -5 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Dallas Stars NHL 71 26 37 63 55 15 -- -- -- -- --

really? Kyle Okposo is that much worse than Jamie Benn? Keep in mind that Okposo is signed long term, scored 2 less goals last year in his first full year after a major shoulder injury. How is Benn a massive improvement? Assists? PA had how many assists playing with Tavares?

Some of you on here have the patience of Mike Milbury. Your comment about not being able to package everyone listed and trade them for Benn is as ridiculous as your lack of hockey knowledge earlier saying that LV should be sent to the AHL if he reports.

Offensively if KO slots into the first line winger next to JT we're hurting for a second line center and winger and our defense is still weak. Benn doesn't solve that issue if we have to trade Okposo plus more to get him.

PK Subban would be a better choice. That being said, his career high is 38 points, less than Mark Streit had last year in a season that wasn't one of his good ones. I don't necessarily think Subban is worth trading away a roster player or two, plus prospects, plus picks.

I don't know what the answer is for this team if you're looking to win right away. If we deal a roster player or two plus prospects/picks we're creating more holes, it's not like one player is going to propel us into the playoffs. The Isles aren't that close. LA was able to trade for Carter because they had enough NHL defensemen that Jack Johnson wasn't needed. Our depth is laughable on defense compared to that. Our depth up front is also very shallow. Until any of these prospects actually make the team and contribute in a meaningful way, we're moving around deck chairs on the titanic.

If we trade KO, Strome and a pick (as an example, I think this would be a massive overpayment) for Benn, we now have Benn playing with JT, and we still have a lack of depth on the wing past him, and we lose whatever Strome might end up being.

Usually you can make a trade using your depth and say "well we can afford to give up KO (as an example), because we have (blank) ready to step in and contribute"

who's (blank)? No one is ready enough to contribute meaningful minutes and put up meaningful numbers.

Who's going to fill that hole if we traded KO for Subban as part of a package? Nino with his 1 goal last year and rebuilding his fragile confidence in the AHL? Strome who hasn't played in the NHL yet at all? Ulstrom?

You may be able to make a deal but you're going to create a hole elsewhere.
- Isles_since_6

this was better then any blog Dee writes. No Balls to wall references either

I get why you want him gone... but I dont get why cutting him now is going to improve the Isles chances of winning. Obviously they dont think any goalie in the system is ready yet. Cutting him would just mean paying some older washed up player a lot of money to reach the cap floor...

You guys just go on and on about the whole DP situation as if its the only reason the Isles suck... Guess what, if they buy him out during the summer, the Isles are probably still going to suck for a few years...

Alright, Ill try to continue this awesome convo after I get out of a meeting...
- Bags502

You build a team from the net-out, or so many people have said over the years. Tough to do that when your goaltending situation is in a constant state of flux, and will remain so until I'm well into my 40s. Can't work a guy like Poulin into a backup role to ease him into the NHL if that backup role is tied up by a guy signed for life that can't play. And you can't bring in a bonafide starting goaltender in his prime because no one who has other options will want to come into a situation where at any time, a far worse goaltender will declare himself healthy and could automatically compete for starts all of a sudden. There's no argument to be made anymore that the DP situation is a good one. Goaltending is a huge part of getting a team on a roll. Good teams that lose confidence in their goaltending situation go on long losing streaks. Bad teams that are supremely confident in their goaltending situation play way over their heads. It's important to get this nonsense settled, and I don't see this team moving on until that's done, regardless of how the forwards or D develop.

That's great and all if this was the Lifetime channel but I care about wins and loses not how nice of a guy somebody is. Give me a douchebag who can stop the puck over a Mr. Rodgers who couldn't stop a beach ball
- Vukota

hahaha....well played..

although the douchebag you are referring to is hopefully on his way ..cough*visnovsky*cough... which would tell me you in fact would want him on the isles if he were to be sent back to the isles?

It is there I beleive Millbury made mention of it. If you look the ineternet have plenty of stories about it. Islanders made it hush hush, Remeber Sean Hill when he was on steroids he was not alone my friend
- kasperrko

This is exactly my point. "It's out there on the Internet." Except it's really not. Just people making wild guesses and accusations. Milbury said something about DP having leg issues because he built too much muscle in his upper body. He never ever said anything about steroids.

hahaha....well played..

although the douchebag you are referring to is hopefully on his way ..cough*visnovsky*cough... which would tell me you in fact would want him on the isles if he were to be sent back to the isles?
- LetsGoIsles

despite the fact I hate his attitude, think he's a pissy little baby and would probably laugh if he got slammed into the boards from behind, yes, I'd like him on the team. Our defense is really that bad.

This is exactly my point. "It's out there on the Internet." Except it's really not. Just people making wild guesses and accusations. Milbury said something about DP having leg issues because he built too much muscle in his upper body. He never ever said anything about steroids.
- UIF

Well to me the proof is all there. Injured every single year loss of body mass, Itis right in front of us. It is not made into a big deal cause lets face it hockey is nothing compared to the other big 3 sports

Well to me the proof is all there. Injured every single year loss of body mass, Itis right in front of us. It is not made into a big deal cause lets face it hockey is nothing compared to the other big 3 sports
- kasperrko

Practically every Islander is injured every year. I guess Martinek must be on steroids too then. And Calvin deHaan. There, it's "out there" now because I wrote it. It must be true!

I strongly dislike the idea of trading Kyle Okposo.

Okposo stats:
2008-09 New York Islanders NHL 65 18 21 39 36 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Bridgeport Sound Tigers AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 1 0 1 2
2009-10 New York Islanders NHL 80 19 33 52 34 -23 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 New York Islanders NHL 38 5 15 20 40 3 -- -- -- -- -- shoulder injury
2011-12 New York Islanders NHL 79 24 21 45 46 -15 -- -- -- -- --

Benn stats:
2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL 82 22 19 41 45 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Texas Stars AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 24 14 12 26 22
2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL 69 22 34 56 52 -5 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Dallas Stars NHL 71 26 37 63 55 15 -- -- -- -- --

really? Kyle Okposo is that much worse than Jamie Benn? Keep in mind that Okposo is signed long term, scored 2 less goals last year in his first full year after a major shoulder injury. How is Benn a massive improvement? Assists? PA had how many assists playing with Tavares?

Some of you on here have the patience of Mike Milbury. Your comment about not being able to package everyone listed and trade them for Benn is as ridiculous as your lack of hockey knowledge earlier saying that LV should be sent to the AHL if he reports.

Offensively if KO slots into the first line winger next to JT we're hurting for a second line center and winger and our defense is still weak. Benn doesn't solve that issue if we have to trade Okposo plus more to get him.

PK Subban would be a better choice. That being said, his career high is 38 points, less than Mark Streit had last year in a season that wasn't one of his good ones. I don't necessarily think Subban is worth trading away a roster player or two, plus prospects, plus picks.

I don't know what the answer is for this team if you're looking to win right away. If we deal a roster player or two plus prospects/picks we're creating more holes, it's not like one player is going to propel us into the playoffs. The Isles aren't that close. LA was able to trade for Carter because they had enough NHL defensemen that Jack Johnson wasn't needed. Our depth is laughable on defense compared to that. Our depth up front is also very shallow. Until any of these prospects actually make the team and contribute in a meaningful way, we're moving around deck chairs on the titanic.

If we trade KO, Strome and a pick (as an example, I think this would be a massive overpayment) for Benn, we now have Benn playing with JT, and we still have a lack of depth on the wing past him, and we lose whatever Strome might end up being.

Usually you can make a trade using your depth and say "well we can afford to give up KO (as an example), because we have (blank) ready to step in and contribute"

who's (blank)? No one is ready enough to contribute meaningful minutes and put up meaningful numbers.

Who's going to fill that hole if we traded KO for Subban as part of a package? Nino with his 1 goal last year and rebuilding his fragile confidence in the AHL? Strome who hasn't played in the NHL yet at all? Ulstrom?

You may be able to make a deal but you're going to create a hole elsewhere.
- Isles_since_6

He is not that much worse but Benn plays more of a power foward game where as Okposo gets knocked around waaaayyyy to easily. Benn is a better player than Okposo and I'm saying that with what little I've seen of Benn. With that said I don't hate Okposo I just like him for what he is, a great third liner and decent second line foward. I believe that's his ceiling.

despite the fact I hate his attitude, think he's a pissy little baby and would probably laugh if he got slammed into the boards from behind, yes, I'd like him on the team. Our defense is really that bad.
- Isles_since_6

(frank) him, move on

I strongly dislike the idea of trading Kyle Okposo.

Okposo stats:
2008-09 New York Islanders NHL 65 18 21 39 36 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Bridgeport Sound Tigers AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 1 0 1 2
2009-10 New York Islanders NHL 80 19 33 52 34 -23 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 New York Islanders NHL 38 5 15 20 40 3 -- -- -- -- -- shoulder injury
2011-12 New York Islanders NHL 79 24 21 45 46 -15 -- -- -- -- --

Benn stats:
2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL 82 22 19 41 45 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Texas Stars AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 24 14 12 26 22
2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL 69 22 34 56 52 -5 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Dallas Stars NHL 71 26 37 63 55 15 -- -- -- -- --

really? Kyle Okposo is that much worse than Jamie Benn? Keep in mind that Okposo is signed long term, scored 2 less goals last year in his first full year after a major shoulder injury. How is Benn a massive improvement? Assists? PA had how many assists playing with Tavares?

Some of you on here have the patience of Mike Milbury. Your comment about not being able to package everyone listed and trade them for Benn is as ridiculous as your lack of hockey knowledge earlier saying that LV should be sent to the AHL if he reports.

Offensively if KO slots into the first line winger next to JT we're hurting for a second line center and winger and our defense is still weak. Benn doesn't solve that issue if we have to trade Okposo plus more to get him.

PK Subban would be a better choice. That being said, his career high is 38 points, less than Mark Streit had last year in a season that wasn't one of his good ones. I don't necessarily think Subban is worth trading away a roster player or two, plus prospects, plus picks.

I don't know what the answer is for this team if you're looking to win right away. If we deal a roster player or two plus prospects/picks we're creating more holes, it's not like one player is going to propel us into the playoffs. The Isles aren't that close. LA was able to trade for Carter because they had enough NHL defensemen that Jack Johnson wasn't needed. Our depth is laughable on defense compared to that. Our depth up front is also very shallow. Until any of these prospects actually make the team and contribute in a meaningful way, we're moving around deck chairs on the titanic.

If we trade KO, Strome and a pick (as an example, I think this would be a massive overpayment) for Benn, we now have Benn playing with JT, and we still have a lack of depth on the wing past him, and we lose whatever Strome might end up being.

Usually you can make a trade using your depth and say "well we can afford to give up KO (as an example), because we have (blank) ready to step in and contribute"

who's (blank)? No one is ready enough to contribute meaningful minutes and put up meaningful numbers.

Who's going to fill that hole if we traded KO for Subban as part of a package? Nino with his 1 goal last year and rebuilding his fragile confidence in the AHL? Strome who hasn't played in the NHL yet at all? Ulstrom?

You may be able to make a deal but you're going to create a hole elsewhere.
- Isles_since_6

Like I said...its a catch-22...

Practically every Islander is injured every year. I guess Martinek must be on steroids too then. And Calvin deHaan. There, it's "out there" now because I wrote it. It must be true!
- UIF

I understand your point but it's pretty obvious to people that have seen steroid abuse(not from experience. lol). Milbury did say something that led alot of people to believe the whole steroid thing. Don't remember what it was?

Practically every Islander is injured every year. I guess Martinek must be on steroids too then. And Calvin deHaan. There, it's "out there" now because I wrote it. It must be true!
- UIF

Radek MArtinek injuries are not the same. He was never really big muscle wise and then nothing. Plus he consistently has the same injury. DPs knees went out his hops everything. When your on steroids first thing that usually goes are those injuries. I understand what you are saying but noone will say anything and wont until he is gone. there is a reasonw hy he cant stay healthy at all and why he cant move anymore. I saw DP at his best and then after the Sean Hill episode kind of weird everything spiraled down hill for DP

I know it's early but I believe you won post of the day honors
- Cptmjl

I just can't get over the fact that she is still our blogger. I keep begging UIF to take over

Obviously JT "IS" the face of the franchise but DP was the old face and Id rather have the Owner/GM us DP and let JT worry about improving his game and what goes on, on the ice.

Ive met DP, he may be broken down from the steriods he used during the last lock-out but he certainly isnt a peice of poop... One of the nicest guys I have ever met and he cares, hence why he hasnt retired and hasnt given up.
- Bags502

Or is it because he gets paid $4.5M per season, provided he continues to play and not retire?

RDP may be a nice guy, but he is a symbol of the Milbury era. He is a symbol of all the failures and mistakes that this team made during Milbury's tenure. Unless he starts to not only stay healthy but play at an elite level, nobody who follows the Isles is going to give him the benefit of the doubt or support him.

For this team to truly move on, they should buy RDP out and move on. Its best for the Isles and best for RDP. let him go somewhere else and be a back-up on a one-year deal and re-start his career. The organization needs to move on and let a guy like Poulin back up Nabby and get some experience.

I strongly dislike the idea of trading Kyle Okposo.

Okposo stats:
2008-09 New York Islanders NHL 65 18 21 39 36 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Bridgeport Sound Tigers AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 1 0 1 2
2009-10 New York Islanders NHL 80 19 33 52 34 -23 -- -- -- -- --
2010-11 New York Islanders NHL 38 5 15 20 40 3 -- -- -- -- -- shoulder injury
2011-12 New York Islanders NHL 79 24 21 45 46 -15 -- -- -- -- --

Benn stats:
2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL 82 22 19 41 45 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Texas Stars AHL -- -- -- -- -- -- 24 14 12 26 22
2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL 69 22 34 56 52 -5 -- -- -- -- --
2011-12 Dallas Stars NHL 71 26 37 63 55 15 -- -- -- -- --

really? Kyle Okposo is that much worse than Jamie Benn? Keep in mind that Okposo is signed long term, scored 2 less goals last year in his first full year after a major shoulder injury. How is Benn a massive improvement? Assists? PA had how many assists playing with Tavares?

Some of you on here have the patience of Mike Milbury. Your comment about not being able to package everyone listed and trade them for Benn is as ridiculous as your lack of hockey knowledge earlier saying that LV should be sent to the AHL if he reports.

Offensively if KO slots into the first line winger next to JT we're hurting for a second line center and winger and our defense is still weak. Benn doesn't solve that issue if we have to trade Okposo plus more to get him.

PK Subban would be a better choice. That being said, his career high is 38 points, less than Mark Streit had last year in a season that wasn't one of his good ones. I don't necessarily think Subban is worth trading away a roster player or two, plus prospects, plus picks.

I don't know what the answer is for this team if you're looking to win right away. If we deal a roster player or two plus prospects/picks we're creating more holes, it's not like one player is going to propel us into the playoffs. The Isles aren't that close. LA was able to trade for Carter because they had enough NHL defensemen that Jack Johnson wasn't needed. Our depth is laughable on defense compared to that. Our depth up front is also very shallow. Until any of these prospects actually make the team and contribute in a meaningful way, we're moving around deck chairs on the titanic.

If we trade KO, Strome and a pick (as an example, I think this would be a massive overpayment) for Benn, we now have Benn playing with JT, and we still have a lack of depth on the wing past him, and we lose whatever Strome might end up being.

Usually you can make a trade using your depth and say "well we can afford to give up KO (as an example), because we have (blank) ready to step in and contribute"

who's (blank)? No one is ready enough to contribute meaningful minutes and put up meaningful numbers.

Who's going to fill that hole if we traded KO for Subban as part of a package? Nino with his 1 goal last year and rebuilding his fragile confidence in the AHL? Strome who hasn't played in the NHL yet at all? Ulstrom?

You may be able to make a deal but you're going to create a hole elsewhere.
- Isles_since_6

Completely agree. Here's the catch-22 for me. Okposo really only produced to his potential when on the 1st line with JT and Moulson. We have a former 40 goal scorer in Boyes now whose career could get revived by playing alongside JT. In a shortened season, there's not a lot of time to experiment. I'm also concered that Bailey and possibly Grabner won't be ready to start the season, so we will have offensive holes all over the place. If the right decisions aren't made immediately, the season will have very little hope. A 5 game losing streak can be catostrophic in such a short season. We'll see how it plays out, and I'm probably in the minority, but I'd love to see Strome up for 5 games as the 2nd line center. I'd like to see if there's any chemisty with him and either Boyes or Okposo. That said, the fact that he's been on the 4th line in camp speaks volumes for what appears to be a one way ticket back to Niagara for Strome Friday night.

He is not that much worse but Benn plays more of a power foward game where as Okposo gets knocked around waaaayyyy to easily. Benn is a better player than Okposo and I'm saying that with what little I've seen of Benn. With that said I don't hate Okposo I just like him for what he is, a great third liner and decent second line foward. I believe that's his ceiling.
- Cptmjl

that's not an unfair assessment, but I think KO has more in him than just a second line winger. Power forwards take time (and he's not going to be a power forward in the sense of physical body checking, but more of a use the body to shield the puck and work in the corners kind of winger) and I really think this year he breaks out for 30-35 goals and 65-70 points. If he stays healthy I think we'll see a heck of an improvement from him

I may end up being proven wrong, I can't say you're incorrect, I just see him as having more in him than he's shown so far.

Actually, I dont own an Isles jersey with name on the back but I do own 3 jerseys... Love how judgemental everyone is. Im a die-hard fan just as you are. Would I be heartbroken if they buy Dp contract out... No. Will they, I dont think they will. Just tired of reading about you guysfemale doging about his contract. Move on from it...
- Bags502

Nobody blames him for his contract. Anybody would have signed that deal. The idiot who needs to be blamed for that contract is Wang. He negotiated it and he wanted it. The reason why everyone b**ches about the contract is because the guy who made the mistake in offering it, Wang, won't do anything to correct his mistake and buy it out so the franchise can move on from it.

Nobody blames him for his contract. Anybody would have signed that deal. The idiot who needs to be blamed for that contract is Wang. He negotiated it and he wanted it. The reason why everyone b**ches about the contract is because the guy who made the mistake in offering it, Wang, won't do anything to correct his mistake and buy it out so the franchise can move on from it.
- Jethro09

Charles Wang "i would rather lose with people i like, than win with people i dont like". Now you tell me whats wrong with this picture???