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nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
Was i demoted?
- canadianpenfan

Just slow
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
I didn't read the blog yet due to lack of time but I will sum up how I felt about both games quickly. The Flyers seem to show up late and manage to work harder as the game goes on. Not always smarter but harder. Bryz was easily our best player. I had very little expectations of the D but I felt they help up well considering. I am however disappointed with the offense. I'm just not seeing a real threat out there. let's face it the Flyers are not as deep as a team as they have been in years past. Read was being muscled off the pick pretty easily and as hard a worker as Simmonds is, he doesn't posses the skills Schenn and Couturier may someday. if we were really that deep a team, Laughton wouldn't be here at all.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
here he is in action:


- MBFlyerfan



a true classic
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
Luke Schenn as a 20/21 year old player was a top defenseman for Toronto, including being their top PK defenseman. he has shown the same glimpses of being a top player as a defenseman, that JVR has as a Forward. Even more so, because Schenn showed it for a longer period of time.
- MJL

Yea but he isnt scoring goals or making fancy dippsy-doodles. Play want flash. I mentioned something last week.. Most players do not come into the NHL as bonefide stars.. it can take years from them to even be anything near that...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
I didn't read the blog yet due to lack of time but I will sum up how I felt about both games quickly. The Flyers seem to show up late and manage to work harder as the game goes on. Not always smarter but harder. Bryz was easily our best player. I had very little expectations of the D but I felt they help up well considering. I am however disappointed with the offense. I'm just not seeing a real threat out there. let's face it the Flyers are not as deep as a team as they have been in years past. Read was being muscled off the pick pretty easily and as hard a worker as Simmonds is, he doesn't posses the skills Schenn and Couturier may someday. if we were really that deep a team, Laughton wouldn't be here at all.
- SuperSchennBros

You have about 5 potential 20 goal scoters in a full season. They just aren't clicking right now.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Was i demoted?
- canadianpenfan

No, no. Just ignored.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Just slow
- nfph



Well that's nothing new.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
No, no. Just ignored.
- Flyskippy



I hope Twitter breaks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
I didn't read the blog yet due to lack of time but I will sum up how I felt about both games quickly. The Flyers seem to show up late and manage to work harder as the game goes on. Not always smarter but harder. Bryz was easily our best player. I had very little expectations of the D but I felt they help up well considering. I am however disappointed with the offense. I'm just not seeing a real threat out there. let's face it the Flyers are not as deep as a team as they have been in years past. Read was being muscled off the pick pretty easily and as hard a worker as Simmonds is, he doesn't posses the skills Schenn and Couturier may someday. if we were really that deep a team, Laughton wouldn't be here at all.
- SuperSchennBros


I don't think it's true that if we were really a deep team, Laughton wouldn't be here. First round picks are highly talented players. The Flyers in the first two games did not bring nearly enough offensive pressure. And certainly not what they're capable of. And most of the young players have started out slow. And they're also missing Briere. That and the PK are the main issues right now. The Flyers have plenty of offensive depth. We have to give it some time.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
I hope Twitter breaks.
- canadianpenfan

screecwe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 04.17.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
Couterier's goal was scored with 6 men on the ice that directly affected the play. Wasn't the first time they got away with 6 men on the ice.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
I hate Philly as much as I hate Al Qaeda, but i will say that losing 2 games is just that losing 2 games no more no less. In the span of the entire 48 game season those games arnt going to mean much. The flyers are going to be in the playoffs and im sure that the pens will end up playing you jerks at some point. I love the fact that we beat you on your opening night,and i know your going to come back with "yeah well we beat you in the playoffs last year". The fun thing is when we beat you in the playoffs we went on to win the Stanley Cup. With that (dinosaur turnover machine slow as frozen mud) Grossman,and (frail elf looking 5 years past his expiration date) Timonen anchoring your blue line you are in worlds of trouble this year. Its not your creepy goalie that is going to lose games for you this year.
- nbartley9


Our goalie is creepy.. Guess you've never seen ole horse teeth Fleury or taken a good look at Frankenmalkin.. hahah
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jan 21 @ 11:59 AM ET
Couterier's goal was scored with 6 men on the ice that directly affected the play. Wasn't the first time they got away with 6 men on the ice.
- screecwe



you made me look
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
Couterier's goal was scored with 6 men on the ice that directly affected the play. Wasn't the first time they got away with 6 men on the ice.
- screecwe


Well, the refs made up for it by incorrectly waiving off two goals. I forgot how much fun Buffalo trolls are because we haven't heard from them in 2 years since we beat them out of the 2011 playoffs and swept the season series last year..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
Couterier's goal was scored with 6 men on the ice that directly affected the play. Wasn't the first time they got away with 6 men on the ice.
- screecwe


There were only 5 players plus the goaltender on the ice when the goal was scored.

http://video.flyers.nhl.c...2,14&event=BUF370&lang=en
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
you made me look
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Successful troll is successful.
flyers20032002
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
Do you know how rare it is for a defenseman that young to excel at positional play and reading and anticipating plays at the NHL level at that age? You look and see how he played as a young player against he peers. There is a learning curve for all young defenseman. And it happens over time. Luke Schenn was drafted for his physical skills and intangibles. His development will come over time. Flyers are getting him at the right time. He isn't a guarantee. But like I said if he grows and improves in some areas, the Flyers will have a very good NHL shutdown defenseman. If he doesn't, then he'll be an average players at best. They traded struggling potential for struggling potential.
- MJL


I tend to agree, but the only thing that concerns me is the fact that this he's going into his 5th NHL season. I'll attribute some of the mistakes he has made early on to rust, new team, and Flyers turning the puck-over. If he doesn't correct these things within 10-15 games, then I will start to become worried. The aspect I'll be focusing on closely is his hockey mind, does he have it or does he lack it? Two games is not enough for me to discern either way, but I'm a bit worried.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
McGinn being called up to take Rinaldo's spot tomorrow night.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
I tend to agree, but the only thing that concerns me is the fact that this he's going into his 5th NHL season. I'll attribute some of the mistakes he has made early on to rust, new team, and Flyers turning the puck-over. If he doesn't correct these things within 10-15 games, then I will start to become worried. The aspect I'll be focusing on closely is his hockey mind, does he have it or does he lack it? Two games is not enough for me to discern either way, but I'm a bit worried.
- flyers20032002


If you're expecting it to happen within 10-15 games, then you might as well start worrying now. This is a process that is going to take time. Look how long it took Coburn to get to a consistent level. We're likely looking at at least a Season or two for Schenn to reach his potential if he's going to get there. He's 23 years old.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
There were only 5 players plus the goaltender on the ice when the goal was scored.

http://video.flyers.nhl.c...2,14&event=BUF370&lang=en

- MJL

5 plus goalie =6. Lol..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
5 plus goalie =6. Lol..
- Flyersgod



The poster was obviously stating that there were 6 skaters and too many men on the ice when the goal was scored.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:13 PM ET
here he is in action:


- MBFlyerfan

wait, that sh!t is actually real?
I just though skip was making it up.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 21 @ 12:14 PM ET
I hope Twitter breaks.
- canadianpenfan

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
Successful troll is successful.
- tangent_man



SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
I don't think it's true that if we were really a deep team, Laughton wouldn't be here. First round picks are highly talented players. The Flyers in the first two games did not bring nearly enough offensive pressure. And certainly not what they're capable of. And most of the young players have started out slow. And they're also missing Briere. That and the PK are the main issues right now. The Flyers have plenty of offensive depth. We have to give it some time.
- MJL

I think communication is key and they had none yesterday. Couturier and Talbot on a line change during the pk was brutal. You might be right, I should give things time for this group to click but this isn't much of a different team then last year. Mr. Snider might see things differently six games in if we don't wake up. Some of the mistakes made yesterday were dumb ones.
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