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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:30 PM ET
Half the time it's the impact of the hit that causes the skates to leave the ice rather than a jump. They need to focus on head contact.
- mayorofangrytown

agreed. and IIRC my old physics classes, don't you actually reduce the velocity of force by leaving your feet? if that's true and the hit does not touch the head, the whole concept is BS.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Serious question: If Hartnell is out an extended amount of time (1+ months) what are your expectations for this team?
Idk what to think... Just when u thought things couldn't get any worse, your 2nd best player goes down...
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Shelley could dress, maybe see Harry Z get recalled.
- Jsaquella


I'm hoping for Harry Z, but is there any chance of Briere being able to go tomorrow?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Probably have to trade the 1st rounder to land Subban
- Jsaquella


Id package B Schenn, Gostisbehre and 3rd

Hartnell-Giroux-Perry
Simmonds-Coots-Voracek
Talbot-Laughton-Read
Rinaldo-Feds-Wellwood

Subban-Coburn
Jones-Schenn
Mez-Grossman
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
I'm hoping for Harry Z, but is there any chance of Briere being able to go tomorrow?
- FreshFlyer


He's been saying not until the weekend. No reason to rush if there's possibility to make it worse.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 23 @ 6:33 PM ET
Serious question: If Hartnell is out an extended amount of time (1+ months) what are your expectations for this team?
Idk what to think... Just when u thought things couldn't get any worse, your 2nd best player goes down...

- FLYERSROCK!

Well, hope for Briere to come back and rip it up
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 23 @ 6:33 PM ET
So Neal gets nothing for his hit on Couturier, but Schenn gets a game??

Look. I'm not going to sit here and argue for or against a suspension.

All I want is some consistency....

EDIT: No Hartnell for a long time. See we're not buckin any trends here....
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:33 PM ET
Hartnell must have broke something, damn.

Good thing they have lots of depth on their AHL team.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
Serious question: If Hartnell is out an extended amount of time (1+ months) what are your expectations for this team?
Idk what to think... Just when u thought things couldn't get any worse, your 2nd best player goes down...

- FLYERSROCK!


They'd have to make a deal to address his absence. You'd hope they could get a vet on the last year of a deal for a pick, but the other team will smell the desperation, so not likely.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
Well, hope for Briere to come back and rip it up
- FreshFlyer

I'm just hoping we don't get embarrassed tomorrow... Yes those are my expectations now.
Keep it within 2-3 goals boys... Don't nobody get injured
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
Hartnell must have broke something, damn.

Good thing they have lots of depth on their AHL team.

- Marc D


As soon as you so him get hit, why would you think anything other than a fracture?

That's the way this team rolls.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
They'd have to make a deal to address his absence. You'd hope they could get a vet on the last year of a deal for a pick, but the other team will smell the desperation, so not likely.
- Jsaquella


Is Mike Knuble an FA? If so I would definitely give him a shot
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Jan 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
They'd have to make a deal to address his absence. You'd hope they could get a vet on the last year of a deal for a pick, but the other team will smell the desperation, so not likely.
- Jsaquella


Perry*
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
They'd have to make a deal to address his absence. You'd hope they could get a vet on the last year of a deal for a pick, but the other team will smell the desperation, so not likely.
- Jsaquella


They'd smell the stink emenating from the Flyers locker room
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
Is Mike Knuble an FA? If so I would definitely give him a shot
- FreshFlyer


Actually, not the worst idea. He's on a PTO with Grand Rapids, but they'd need to dump a contract to land him.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Is Mike Knuble an FA? If so I would definitely give him a shot
- FreshFlyer


We already have a slow ass 22 on this team. Anyone who takes 22 is slow as molasses. Knuble-Leino-now concrete feet Schenn
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Perry*
- Flyers4Life88


Ok, one that won't cost Snider's Arm, Luukko's leg and Homer's left nut
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
They'd have to make a deal to address his absence. You'd hope they could get a vet on the last year of a deal for a pick, but the other team will smell the desperation, so not likely.
- Jsaquella

I'm loving all the people saying we should make offers for Benn and Subban... Let's trade 3 1sts or great depth players for players that haven't played in 7 months!

Knuble available? Or did he sign with Grand Rapids?
Dare I say Gomez as a 3rd line center wouldn't look too bad right now?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Is Mike Knuble an FA? If so I would definitely give him a shot
- FreshFlyer

I'd love for Knuble to come back. But he's slower than anyone on this team. And that kind of says it all...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
I'm loving all the people saying we should make offers for Benn and Subban... Let's trade 3 1sts or great depth players for players that haven't played in 7 months!

Knuble available? Or did he sign with Grand Rapids?
Dare I say Gomez as a 3rd line center wouldn't look too bad right now?

- FLYERSROCK!


Too bad Gomez signed with the Sharks a few hours ago.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
agreed. and IIRC my old physics classes, don't you actually reduce the velocity of force by leaving your feet? if that's true and the hit does not touch the head, the whole concept is BS.
- isaiah520

Yes, exactly. If you run and jump at a wall the impact is less than if you ran straight into it because the momentum of the moving object (you) is distributed in two directions instead of one. The kinetic energy is applied upward and forward instead of just forward.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
I'd love for Knuble to come back. But he's slower than anyone on this team. And that kind of says it all...
- hereticpride


Yeah but If Hartnell is out for a long period of time I don't think it would be such a bad pickup, he would certainly bring some leadership and maybe even help the PP
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
Too bad Gomez signed with the Sharks a few hours ago.
- Jsaquella

Ya I know...
Well since the Devils fans kept saying this and it always seemed to help them win...

WERE DOOOOOOOMED
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
Flyers defense can't hit the net, but zero trouble hitting Hartnell's foot.

You would think the net would be an easier target since it's bigger.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
Here is the Holmgren statement.

Flyers GM Paul Holmgren gave an injury update on Flyers forward Scott Hartnell:

"Scott will be out indefinitely with a left foot injury. We will know more on this within a day or two as we await results of tests."

If they don't have the results of the tests, how can Holmgren proclaim Hartnell out indefinitely. Doesn't seem to jive.
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