Yeah, your team got fleeced. You should stick to trading with the Bruins...

- mayorofangrytown

Maybe another Raycroft for Rask type deal?

If it was obvious, and you understood it. You wouldn't make the statement that maybe their system made them faster.
- MJL

So yiu think that I thought systems won games without players?

Cool story

Good news for him.. he is our 2nd fastest dman
- Flyersgod

Luke Schenn is faster then any of Coburn, Meszaros, Timonen, and Gervais?

he's a punk. maybe he'll mature in a few years. maybe he won't. to me, he's a project that i'm not interested in working on. i also think there's zero chance he finds his way here.
- hammarby31

Agreed.. not worth it

Luke Schenn is faster then any of Coburn, Meszaros, Timonen, and Gervais?
- MJL

Coburn is our fastest

That's actually what they claim was the prediction of Henry II's death. BOY WERE THEY WRONG
- NickTheKid87

I liked the addition of Schenn but disliked that it came at the cost of JVR. JVR is still the guy that is invisible for several games then has a dominate game but I still believe he is going to be a really nice player. I hate losing that mix of size and speed.
- nastyflyergirl

we've talked jvr many times. i almost got into a fist fight over him 2 last year with a meathead drunken flyers fan at the game. i wanted them to give him another year. didn't like the move, but i can live with it. they swung for the fences with suter and weber and didn't get them. pronger's done. cba was a crapshoot. had the other schenn here. i get it. i don't see a sharp for ellison situation here. hopefully schenn blossoms into a long-term impact dman here.

Luke Schenn has just as much promise as a defenseman as JVR has as a Forward.
- MJL

I don't believe that. Time is the only judge. The fact that Schenn could barely hold onto a third pairing role in TO is only offset by the fact that JVR only managed 40 some games last year due to injuries.

is the arguing still about whether or not someone understands a system

I don't believe that. Time is the only judge. The fact that Schenn could barely hold onto a third pairing role in TO is only offset by the fact that JVR only managed 40 some games last year due to injuries.
- mayorofangrytown

if it's any consolation, he will only play 40 some games this year as well

From what I've seen so far, his foot speed isn't an issue. His skating is better then advertised.
- MJL

His foot speed is certainly below average for a d-man.. but so is his thinking.. he needs to be smarter and think quicker to really take himself to the next level.

Www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=650591

Talks abiut systems for younger players

is the arguing still about whether or not someone understands a system
- nails

- Philly1980

I love that guy and his hair.. he started combi g it recently

if it's any consolation, he will only play 40 some games this year as well
- nails

I love that guy and his hair.. he started combi g it recently
- Flyersgod

i didn't realize robert esche was doing this kind of work.

is the arguing still about whether or not someone understands a system
- nails

It's so not the system dude. It's the players man, the players. The players play the system and all the systems are antiquated man. They're old. Passed down from generation to generation. It's the players that are new. They play the system a new way. Not that they change the system just the way it's played. The system can't make a player faster but it can make them appear faster if they play the system tighter and when the gaps are closed the players look quicker in the system but they aren't faster.

If you knew the system you'd know this dude. I don't think you understand the system at all or you'd stop asking these questions.

if it's any consolation, he will only play 40 some games this year as well
- nails

It's so not the system dude. It's the players man, the players. The players play the system and all the systems are antiquated man. They're old. Passed down from generation to generation. It's the players that are new. They play the system a new way. Not that they change the system just the way it's played. The system can't make a player faster but it can make them appear faster if they play the system tighter and when the gaps are closed the players look quicker in the system but they aren't faster.

If you knew the system you'd know this dude. I don't think you understand the system at all or you'd stop asking these questions.
- mayorofangrytown

i didn't realize robert esche was doing this kind of work.
- hammarby31

I niss esche

I niss esche
- Flyersgod

ne too.

It's so not the system dude. It's the players man, the players. The players play the system and all the systems are antiquated man. They're old. Passed down from generation to generation. It's the players that are new. They play the system a new way. Not that they change the system just the way it's played. The system can't make a player faster but it can make them appear faster if they play the system tighter and when the gaps are closed the players look quicker in the system but they aren't faster.

If you knew the system you'd know this dude. I don't think you understand the system at all or you'd stop asking these questions.
- mayorofangrytown

EDIT: this is an instant classic and should be recorded for posterity.

It's so not the system dude. It's the players man, the players. The players play the system and all the systems are antiquated man. They're old. Passed down from generation to generation. It's the players that are new. They play the system a new way. Not that they change the system just the way it's played. The system can't make a player faster but it can make them appear faster if they play the system tighter and when the gaps are closed the players look quicker in the system but they aren't faster.

If you knew the system you'd know this dude. I don't think you understand the system at all or you'd stop asking these questions.
- mayorofangrytown

- Philly1980

Http://coachnielsen.wordpress.com/category/systems