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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
I think Schenn will be a nice player but I don't see him being anything special. Nothing against the kid but I'm not completely sold on him.
- stveshdy



Im with you 110%. I havent seen superstar in him like we did with giroux
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
The whole Flyers are desperate thing is vastly overplayed. There's zero reason to rush into a deal, even with Meszaros out.
- Jsaquella



I agree I am saying that the other teams would price up there players because of the flyers situation. Honestly I would do nothing and even if the season goes down the drain I would be ok with that because we would have young players with talent and a cap space to go into the deep FA pool that is coming up this summer
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Its prorated if the player comes back?
- Flyersgod


Nope! A player on LTIR counts against the Cap the same as every player. All that happens with a player taken off LTIR, and placed back on the active roster, is that the exemption goes away for that player. And you need to have the Cap space t bring him back.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
I think Schenn will be a nice player but I don't see him being anything special. Nothing against the kid but I'm not completely sold on him.
- stveshdy


He's about 6 months older than I am. Trust me, no one is sold on me either

I like Schenn's game. Only time will tell though.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
To me Montreal is just as desperate. They can't get Subban signed and thats a serious issue.
- stveshdy


Good point....then instead of a trade again why not just tender an offer sheet and force there hand
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
I don't see Montreal being desperate. Subban is RFA, they have all the leverage.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
I would trade B-Schenn and a pick for Subban and not even think twice about it.
- stveshdy


I would also, but it would be hard to do.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
I agree I am saying that the other teams would price up there players because of the flyers situation. Honestly I would do nothing and even if the season goes down the drain I would be ok with that because we would have young players with talent and a cap space to go into the deep FA pool that is coming up this summer
- nonpoint22


Let them price up their players then. Tell 'em to (frank) off and hang up the phone. There's zero desperation, or at least there should be zero desperation.

That said, the FA pool is NOT deep on defense.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
Im with you 110%. I havent seen superstar in him like we did with giroux
- Flyersgod


He hasn't impressed me. He is very inconsistent. He has had injuries which have hurt him but he looks very good for a week than disappers for a few. He's still a young player but I don't see superstar material.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
Im with you 110%. I havent seen superstar in him like we did with giroux
- Flyersgod


Not even close, but that's not Schenn's game.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
Recap of pages 19-27, please.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
I think Schenn will be a nice player but I don't see him being anything special. Nothing against the kid but I'm not completely sold on him.
- stveshdy



I think Brayden Schenn is going to be a very good player in this League. Not a star, but along the level of past top player here such as 17 and 18.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Good point....then instead of a trade again why not just tender an offer sheet and force there hand
- nonpoint22


Flyers already tried that. I don't see the point in doing that. To get Weber I understand but for Subban I would work out a trade.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Jan 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
He hasn't impressed me. He is very inconsistent. He has had injuries which have hurt him but he looks very good for a week than disappers for a few. He's still a young player but I don't see superstar material.
- stveshdy


for some reason, i get this funny feeling that we can pull off this deal for a lot less then everyone is thinking/considering...idk why, but i cant see the flyers losing in this trade...
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
Recap of pages 19-27, please.
- Flyskippy


COOTS FER SUBBAN AS THE JSAQ SAYS GIT ER DONE
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
I don't see Montreal being desperate. Subban is RFA, they have all the leverage.
- Marc D


Well, if the Habs are serious about the cost, the Flyers could easily say that they're going to offer sheet him, and force the Habs to sign him to an undesireble contract or deal him.

I still see it as a pressure situation for the Habs to some extent because their best player is not playing.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
I think Brayden Schenn is going to be a very good player in this League. Not a star, but along the level of past top player here such as 17 and 18.
- MJL


I agree about being a good player but im not sure he will be as good as 17 & 18 to be honest.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
I agree I am saying that the other teams would price up there players because of the flyers situation. Honestly I would do nothing and even if the season goes down the drain I would be ok with that because we would have young players with talent and a cap space to go into the deep FA pool that is coming up this summer
- nonpoint22



They don't have that much Cap space. But I would be okay with not making any deals. I want them to make the right deal. Not a panic deal.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
I would also, but it would be hard to do.
- MJL


I guess it depends on how you value players. I rather have a good defense.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
Good point....then instead of a trade again why not just tender an offer sheet and force there hand
- nonpoint22


One I think Montreal matches and two, Weber is worth all those draft picks, but Subban isn't.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
I agree about being a good player but im not sure he will be as good as 17 & 18 to be honest.
- stveshdy


Only time will tell. But he definitely has that potential in my opinion.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
He hasn't impressed me. He is very inconsistent. He has had injuries which have hurt him but he looks very good for a week than disappers for a few. He's still a young player but I don't see superstar material.
- stveshdy

That description fit many players until they fully developed. Steve Yzerman was th subject of trade rumors prior to the lockout-shortened 1995 season, for example.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:26 PM ET
Let them price up their players then. Tell 'em to (frank) off and hang up the phone. There's zero desperation, or at least there should be zero desperation.

That said, the FA pool is NOT deep on defense.

- Jsaquella


As much as I love coots I cant help but wonder how good Dougie Hamilton would look in a flyers shirt right now. To your point then maybe you make the trade knowing there are more options to replace Coots then a D man IDK
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:26 PM ET
I guess it depends on how you value players. I rather have a good defense.
- stveshdy



Well you have to have a good defense. And there is a definite need there at that position.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 25 @ 5:27 PM ET
COOTS FER SUBBAN AS THE JSAQ SAYS GIT ER DONE
- GirouxForTheShow

OH, F(ornicate) THAT.
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