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nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
I think he could be on par with an Umberger type. Which isn't bad.
- Just5

Umberger was an average player who had a great playoff run one year Schenn is star upside
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
I agree, but I could see Schenn easily being a player equal to or better than Richards
- Jsaquella


I like the kid....I really think his ceiling is much higher then some realize....but then again opinions are like a-ho.....oh never mind.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 5:45 PM ET
Let's face it, I was sure he was staying past six games as soon as he made the opening night roster. There's been nothing to change that, rather, there's been a lot to strengthen that opinion. The kid is a good, smart, feisty player. He's the kind of guy that winning teams always seem to have.

That said, if it's my call, he'd already be back in Oshawa.

- Jsaquella


I'd agree, I think his offense game needs work, and he should be dominating two way play and getting tons of ice time in the Juniors. But what better way to learn how to score In the NHL than play in the NHL. As long as he can get 10-12 minutes a night I'm fairly content with the move
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:45 PM ET
B Schenn easy 45-50 points a season, and plays with an attitude.
He's going to be a solid NHLer.

- Marc D


To me 45-50 points is an average player in the NHL today (for a foward). Thats just my opinion. He would need to be a 70-80 point player a year for me to be sold on him.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:45 PM ET
Umberger is just an average player. Brayden Schenn's upside is much higher then that.
- MJL


A 50 pt. player is average?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:46 PM ET
To assuage the crying masses in Philly who lament the dearth of second-round picks of late? Yes.
- Flyskippy




okay.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Jan 25 @ 5:46 PM ET
B Schenn easy 45-50 points a season, and plays with an attitude.
He's going to be a solid NHLer.

- Marc D


id say 60 -70 in his prime

if hartsy can cop 67....bschenn can can cop 67
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
I like the kid....I really think his ceiling is much higher then some realize....but then again opinions are like a-ho.....oh never mind.
- landros 2


The only reason the Kings added him was because they were getting a guy like Richards. Prior to that several teams tried to pry Schenn and failed. The kid is a good player, and will be a very good player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
A 50 pt. player is average?
- Just5


I don't think Umberger is anything special. I think Schenn has a chance to be a much better player then that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
To assuage the crying masses in Philly who lament the dearth of second-round picks of late? Yes.
- Flyskippy


IMO, Holmgren would be borderline certifiable to not trade B Schenn and a 2nd for Subban
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:48 PM ET
To me 45-50 points is an average player in the NHL today (for a foward). Thats just my opinion. He would need to be a 70-80 point player a year for me to be sold on him.
- stveshdy

I was being conservative. He could be much better.
But 50 points is nothing to sneeze at.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:48 PM ET
I don't think Umberger is anything special. I think Schenn has a chance to be a much better player then that.
- MJL


fair enough. I'll disagree
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:49 PM ET
fair enough. I'll disagree
- Just5



Disagree on what, Umberger or Schenn.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:50 PM ET
The guys on NHL radio yesterday said the GMs were being pressured by the league not to go too crazy with the 2nd contracts for players. The RFA, after the entry level deal I guess.

I wonder if there is any truth to that.

- Marc D

That would be collusion. I'm sure some GMs would look askance at other GMs, but aggressive management may be the only way to go for some teams. How often do those end up being great for the offering/winning team?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:50 PM ET
I was being conservative. He could be much better.
But 50 points is nothing to sneeze at.

- Marc D


It is when his upside is being valued as the same as 17&18. I expect 70-80 for a player with his current potential and upside. Maybe I'm expecting too much out of him but thats what I would like to see.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:50 PM ET
I was being conservative. He could be much better.
But 50 points is nothing to sneeze at.

- Marc D



I hear you on that. But if B Schenn stays and only winds up a 50 pt player. I'd look at that as a disappointment.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
I hear you on that. But if B Schenn stays and only winds up a 50 pt player. I'd look at that as a disappointment.
- MJL


BINGO! 100% agree.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 25 @ 5:52 PM ET
Braden Schenn and a 2nd rd pick for Subban and a 3rd or 4th rd pick.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:53 PM ET
Braden Schenn and a 2nd rd pick for Subban and a 3rd or 4th rd pick.
- jstross


Done.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:53 PM ET
Apparently no movement with Subban and Montreal and he is taking weekend to talk over his options with his family per Pierre Lebrun and Nick Kypreos
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:54 PM ET
Apparently no movement with Subban and Montreal and he is taking weekend to talk over his options with his family per Pierre Lebrun and Nick Kypreos
- nonpoint22


Prime for the taking....
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
Braden Schenn and a 2nd rd pick for Subban and a 3rd or 4th rd pick.
- jstross

Why do people keep proposing the same trade on here over and over
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
I think asking B Schenn to be Mike Richards is unfair.

Remember Simmonds and Schenn for Richards.

Ultimately his points depends on how they use him and who his wingers are.

Right now he is likely the #3 center behind G and Couts.
His PP time also is not a given.

When Carter and Richards had 80 points here they had a lot of ice time.
First and 2nd line and PP with some pretty good wingers.
Time will tell.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 25 @ 5:58 PM ET
I think asking B Schenn to be Mike Richards is unfair.

Remember Simmonds and Schenn for Richards.

Ultimately his points depends on how they use him and who his wingers are.

Right now he is likely the #3 center behind G and Couts.
His PP time also is not a given.

When Carter and Richards had 80 points here they had a lot of ice time.
First and 2nd line and PP with some pretty good wingers.
Time will tell.

- Marc D


Were philly fans we need to know NOW
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:58 PM ET
Disagree on what, Umberger or Schenn.
- MJL


I dont think either are anything special
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