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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
What do you think the upside is of Gormley or Runblad? Have you seen them play?
- MJL



I think Homer has done a pretty good job of identifying younger d-men who weren't fully developed, but have since grown into quality d-men (Coburn, Meszaros, and Schenn TBD). I couldn't even tell you who fits that bill right now in the league, but I'm sure Homer is always doing his due diligence speaking with team's who have organizational depth on the blue line who may lack at forward depth.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
Subban and Eller for Couturier and Laughton.
- BingoLady


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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:54 PM ET
Subban and Eller for Couturier and Laughton.
- BingoLady


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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
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- ob18

Subban, Eller and a 2nd for Couts and a 1st.?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
Apparently Gustafsson is playing tonight for Phantoms
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
Subban, Eller and a 2nd for Couts and a 1st.?
- BingoLady


uh
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
I like Gormley's upside more. Flyers prob be able to squeeze a pick too. But for young promising dmen that can move the puck like these guys are assets I would move a B Schenn for.
- Just5


I personally don't know a lot about either player. Gormley is very young, and Runblad doesn't have a lot of NHL experience. Unless you've seen either play a lot, I don't know how anyone can deem that it's worth trading Schenn for them. I leave that up to scouts.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
Subban, Eller and a 2nd for Couts and a 1st.?
- BingoLady

Coots aint gettin moved buddy.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
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- ob18

Josh Rimer, producer for XM's "NHL Home Ice" and SportsNet in Toronto, has reported that the Flyers have contacted the Montreal Canadiens about their young defenseman P.K. Subban.

Rimer also reported that Sean Couturier would likely be involved in any deal involving the Flyers and Subban

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:57 PM ET
I think Homer has done a pretty good job of identifying younger d-men who weren't fully developed, but have since grown into quality d-men (Coburn, Meszaros, and Schenn TBD). I couldn't even tell you who fits that bill right now in the league, but I'm sure Homer is always doing his due diligence speaking with team's who have organizational depth on the blue line who may lack at forward depth.
- ravishingone



I do too. He's shown he can acquire quality defenseman in the past. I have full faith in Holmgren.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 6:57 PM ET
Coots aint gettin moved buddy.
- hereticpride

see above. U want Subban u lose Coots.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:57 PM ET
I personally don't know a lot about either player. Gormley is very young, and Runblad doesn't have a lot of NHL experience. Unless you've seen either play a lot, I don't know how anyone can deem that it's worth trading Schenn for them. I leave that up to scouts.
- MJL

If Schenn is going O-EL would have to be coming the other way for me. Too risky otherwise.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:57 PM ET
Josh Rimer, producer for XM's "NHL Home Ice" and SportsNet in Toronto, has reported that the Flyers have contacted the Montreal Canadiens about their young defenseman P.K. Subban.

Rimer also reported that Sean Couturier would likely be involved in any deal involving the Flyers and Subban


- BingoLady


I'm aware his name was mentioned but I wouldn't do it, Couturier would not be in any offer even made in an effort to land PK for me.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
I'm aware his name was mentioned but I wouldn't do it, Couturier would not be in any offer even made in an effort to land PK for me.
- ob18

ur not Homer. He traded Mike Richards ffs.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
see above. U want Subban u lose Coots.
- BingoLady

Then we aint getting Subban. Homer wouldnt move him for Weber. He sure as heck aint moving him for Subban.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Then we aint getting Subban. Homer wouldnt move him for Weber. He sure as heck aint moving him for Subban.
- hereticpride

u need def worse now than then..
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
ur not Homer. He traded Mike Richards ffs.
- BingoLady


I'm betting that wasn't just to do it & had something else behind it.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
ur not Homer. He traded Mike Richards ffs.
- BingoLady



Certainly anything is possible. So what do you feel eventually does happen with P.K?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
see above. U want Subban u lose Coots.
- BingoLady


We dont want him then
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 7:00 PM ET
If Schenn is going O-EL would have to be coming the other way for me. Too risky otherwise.
- hereticpride


I'd be ecstatic for that. But I don't see that happening. OEL has star written all over him.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 7:00 PM ET
u need def worse now than then..
- BingoLady


That's true but even with PK this team is not winning the cup & probably not even the year after so how much better would it make them? Maybe a bit but I don't think even as good as PK is and can be that he's that much a difference maker that I'd be so willing to include Couturier.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
u need def worse now than then..
- BingoLady

Not really... I'd say just as much as when we put the offer-sheet out.

Couturier isn't gonna be move for Subban tho. Read, Jake, maybe B Schenn. I could see one of those guys getting moved. Not Couturier.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
Certainly anything is possible. So what do you feel eventually does happen with P.K?
- ravishingone

talks ongoing today. Likely sign a bridge contract around 4-4.5 range by next week.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Told Subban will take weekend to think things over... My sense is Habs won't go past three years at most... We shall see
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
I'd be ecstatic for that. But I don't see that happening. OEL has star written all over him.
- MJL

Well I wouldn't rule out sending some picks with Schenn if the deal could get done. I doubt PHX is even entertaining offers on him tho.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 25 @ 7:04 PM ET
Not really... I'd say just as much as when we put the offer-sheet out.

Couturier isn't gonna be move for Subban tho. Read, Jake, maybe B Schenn. I could see one of those guys getting moved. Not Couturier.

- hereticpride

Subban, Eller for B. Schenn, Cousins and 1st in 2013?
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