The Habs are in an interesting financial position for next year. Sixteen players under contract for $53.2 million. You can see why they are really not moving from there offer with Subban. I'm not really sure how it turns out.
- ravishingone

Their policy is not to pay big after entry level expires for none of their players, no exceptions especially with a few of them coming up. If they cave for Subban they create a monster and that is why an offer sheet will work. It will force their hand to entertain trade offers if they matched or accept the picks. This guy is worth the picks as long as we finish in the top ten???? Bottom 10 Dicy?? How good are we?

They would be foolish not to match but there is no way they would keep him. He would be traded before he ever played there. The guy is easily worth 5 mil per year and down the road he would be a bargain at 5 mil. He is getting a lot of bad negative press from people who do not know him. He spent the entire lock out doing charity work, he is doing charity work today as a matter of fact. Yes he likes himself but he has a lot to like. I watched him in Hamilton in the AHL and his potential is off the charts and he is already a #1 or #2 dman on most teams.
- flyerdude17

If they match, they can't trade him for a year. See: "Weber, Shea" for reference.

They would be foolish not to match but there is no way they would keep him. He would be traded before he ever played there. The guy is easily worth 5 mil per year and down the road he would be a bargain at 5 mil. He is getting a lot of bad negative press from people who do not know him. He spent the entire lock out doing charity work, he is doing charity work today as a matter of fact. Yes he likes himself but he has a lot to like. I watched him in Hamilton in the AHL and his potential is off the charts and he is already a #1 or #2 dman on most teams.
- flyerdude17

I could be wrong, but I thought if a team matched an offer sheet for a player, he couldn't be traded for a year. Hence, they're salary cap situation gets pretty dicey if he signs for 5+ million/yr. The Habs already bought out Gomez, maybe Kaberle would be next to create room, I really don't know.

I remember him in the world juniors.
Tons of talent but risky!

I'd be happy to see him on the Flyers, especially if it doesn't cost them Couts.
- Marc D

Hey Marc, trust me Subban would be the second most popular playre on the team behind G in a matter of weeks. The guy is worth the price of admission. Habs fans rate Price and Subban their most fav players for reasons that are obvious. PK has taken a lot of bad press but I would love to see him in Philly, it would make my year!
That being said I do not want Cout going anywhere, I think he already has line two center locked up and will for the next 15 years.

Their policy is not to pay big after entry level expires for none of their players, no exceptions especially with a few of them coming up. If they cave for Subban they create a monster and that is why an offer sheet will work. It will force their hand to entertain trade offers if they matched or accept the picks. This guy is worth the picks as long as we finish in the top ten???? Bottom 10 Dicy?? How good are we?
- flyerdude17

I don't doubt his ability, but possibly like the Weber situation owners don't like being pushed around by other owners. I think P.K. adds value to this team. Outside of G and Coots, I'd be willing to discuss a trade of assets to acquire him.

I could be wrong, but I thought if a team matched an offer sheet for a player, he couldn't be traded for a year. Hence, they're salary cap situation gets pretty dicey if he signs for 5+ million/yr. The Habs already bought out Gomez, maybe Kaberle would be next to create room, I really don't know.
- ravishingone

Kaberle = buyout

Hey Marc, trust me Subban would be the second most popular playre on the team behind G in a matter of weeks. The guy is worth the price of admission. Habs fans rate Price and Subban their most fav players for reasons that are obvious. PK has taken a lot of bad press but I would love to see him in Philly, it would make my year!
That being said I do not want Cout going anywhere, I think he already has line two center locked up and will for the next 15 years.
- flyerdude17

I dont like him. But I would give him a clean slate if traded for.

I hope they dont.. but out of my hands..

So you're saying if you had the choice in getting FA either Perry or Getzlaf but you need to shed salary you woulndt buy out Briere? I agree dont buy him out for the sake of doing but if you can aquire top YOUNG talent then I would bet Flyers would do it. Who knows maybe they could get Briere back on a smaller contract.
- flyerfan28

I doubt you can buyout a player just to resign the same player.

I don't doubt his ability, but possibly like the Weber situation owners don't like being pushed around by other owners. I think P.K. adds value to this team. Outside of G and Coots, I'd be willing to discuss a trade of assets to acquire him.
- ravishingone

For those of you not up on Subban, top D in OHL where he had 76 points in 50 some odd games, rookie in AHL scored 18G and 53 Points, next year as rookie in NHL he scored 14G and 38 points with 9 PP goals. How many dmen can say that did that three years in a row in three different leagues going from junior to nhl?? This guy is a prize and the real deal. He lacks no confidence in his abilities and is a totally upbeat personality that wants to play 30 minutes a game and would be an asset to every city he plays in and a fan favourite. The Habs are really risking a lot in my opinion playing this silly game with him.

I don't doubt his ability, but possibly like the Weber situation owners don't like being pushed around by other owners. I think P.K. adds value to this team. Outside of G and Coots, I'd be willing to discuss a trade of assets to acquire him.
- ravishingone

I think the rule should be taken out if the owners and GM's are afraid of the fallout from actually making an offer sheet. The rule is there so use it if you can help your hockey team, just my opinion.

did briere and knuble ever play together in his first stint? can't remember.
- hammarby31

They saw a lot of time together on the pp.

For those of you not up on Subban, top D in OHL where he had 76 points in 50 some odd games, rookie in AHL scored 18G and 53 Points, next year as rookie in NHL he scored 14G and 38 points with 9 PP goals. How many dmen can say that did that three years in a row in three different leagues going from junior to nhl?? This guy is a prize and the real deal. He lacks no confidence in his abilities and is a totally upbeat personality that wants to play 30 minutes a game and would be an asset to every city he plays in and a fan favourite. The Habs are really risking a lot in my opinion playing this silly game with him.
- flyerdude17

Meh

I doubt you can buyout a player just to resign the same player.
- SuperSchennBros

Why couldnt you? He would essentialy be a free agent, now whether the player would want to resign is different but there are no rules saying you cant do that.

I dont like him. But I would give him a clean slate if traded for.

I hope they dont.. but out of my hands..
- Flyersgod

Out of my hands too but you would soon love the guy, his play on the ice is electrfying (spelling) but you know what I mean
Huge open ice hits, he can one time a puck while moving backward harder than anyone in the league. I have seen him one time goals while actually circulling backwards, he is a tank at 6" 210 pounds of solid muscle. He could easily have been a star running back.

One last thing on my topic from way earlier.

I think the Flyers are capable of anything after trading both Richards & Carter and offer sheeting Weber. So literally nothing would surprise me outside of Giroux being moved.

And if this draft is as deep as so many are predicting, maybe it would be easier for a team to trade out of the top five.

I would consider offer sheeting Subban if the Canadiens are balking at the Benn type deal. And I would not move Briere either, unless the return exceeds his value to us, which I doubt.

Out of my hands too but you would soon love the guy, his play on the ice is electrfying (spelling) but you know what I mean
Huge open ice hits, he can one time a puck while moving backward harder than anyone in the league. I have seen him one time goals while actually circulling backwards, he is a tank at 6" 210 pounds of solid muscle. He could easily have been a star running back.
- flyerdude17

Uhh.. I dont love men.. no matter how much muscle they have!

Why couldnt you? He would essentialy be a free agent, now whether the player would want to resign is different but there are no rules saying you cant do that.
- flyerfan28

I think there is something that says you cannot sign your own player but bought out player can sign anywhere else. One season waiting period to resign own player. I could be wrong but read this somewhere when Gomez was being bought out. Anyone know for sure?

Out of my hands too but you would soon love the guy, his play on the ice is electrfying (spelling) but you know what I mean
Huge open ice hits, he can one time a puck while moving backward harder than anyone in the league. I have seen him one time goals while actually circulling backwards, he is a tank at 6" 210 pounds of solid muscle. He could easily have been a star running back.
- flyerdude17

A guy like Luke Schenn was screaming out for a mentor imo. The same goes for Subban. The attitude isn't as much of a concern to me, the guy does honestly look like he wants to win.

Voracek, Brayden Schenn and Read would be guys I would lead with. Definately not all three however. Try to keep the first rounder.

A guy like Luke Schenn was screaming out for a mentor imo. The same goes for Subban. The attitude isn't as much of a concern to me, the guy does honestly look like he wants to win.

Voracek, Brayden Schenn and Read would be guys I would lead with. Definately not all three however. Try to keep the first rounder.
- flyer_nutter

Hey bud

Uhh.. I dont love men.. no matter how much muscle they have!
- Flyersgod

Love as in love my flyer team dude, some fags may see it differently but that is their business. I love my Flyers period and every good looking chick I see, ha ha

For those of you not up on Subban, top D in OHL where he had 76 points in 50 some odd games, rookie in AHL scored 18G and 53 Points, next year as rookie in NHL he scored 14G and 38 points with 9 PP goals. How many dmen can say that did that three years in a row in three different leagues going from junior to nhl?? This guy is a prize and the real deal. He lacks no confidence in his abilities and is a totally upbeat personality that wants to play 30 minutes a game and would be an asset to every city he plays in and a fan favourite. The Habs are really risking a lot in my opinion playing this silly game with him.
- flyerdude17

I believe Homer recognizes the need for a #1 d-man for the long haul (trying to sign Weber and Suter at different times in the offseason). Kimmo is older now, and Pronger's career is pretty much over. We currently have suitable 2nd pairing d-men on the roster. Gostisbehere is a few years away with potential, so I wouldn't put it past Homer to offer anything outside of G to acquire Subban. I think either way, the Subban situation gets resolved in the next week.

A guy like Luke Schenn was screaming out for a mentor imo. The same goes for Subban. The attitude isn't as much of a concern to me, the guy does honestly look like he wants to win.

Voracek, Brayden Schenn and Read would be guys I would lead with. Definately not all three however. Try to keep the first rounder.
- flyer_nutter

I would do it in a heartbeat for Read and a first and then hope the hell we finish in the top 10 in the league. Our chances would be much better with PK. We can not trade Couturier under any circumstance. He is going to be as good as G one day. Already a face off specialist and the offense is coming along nicely for a kid.

Hey bud
- Flyersgod

Howdy.

Versteeg seems to play well against former teams.

I believe Homer recognizes the need for a #1 d-man for the long haul (trying to sign Weber and Suter at different times in the offseason). Kimmo is older now, and Pronger's career is pretty much older. We currently have suitable 2nd pairing d-men on the roster. Gostisbehere is a few years away with potential, so I wouldn't put it past Homer to offer anything outside of G to acquire Subban. I think either way, the Subban situation gets resolved in the next week.
- ravishingone

Totally agree, it will be Philly or Detroit. You heard it hear first!

Hoping we get him.

I would do it in a heartbeat for Read and a first and then hope the hell we finish in the top 10 in the league. Our chances would be much better with PK. We can not trade Couturier under any circumstance. He is going to be as good as G one day. Already a face off specialist and the offense is coming along nicely for a kid.
- flyerdude17

The thing is the Flyers will have to overpay. Its always that way for star d-men, or guys with that potential. Especially if Montreal really has no need to trade him.

Realistically I think Brayden Schenn, Read and a 1st rounder. Who knows though, Montreal holds all the leverage.