Liles has been pretty good. Nothing great, but Liles hasn't been bad. Its a big contract, but I dont think its completely untradeable. Wont get a big return, but you'll get something.
- systemtool

id rather the open roster spot

Eg.

Cap Hits:
Subban - $2.875
Del Zotto - $2.55
Liles - $4.25


- 1979AD[/img]

There is a big difference between signing a contract as a UFA and as a RFA. Especially when one contract was signed when the Cap was on the rise, and the other two when the cap was going down.

To be honest, I haven't really noticed him out there, which is usually a good thing for a defenceman.

4 assists in 6 games - he hasn't been too shabby.

But yeah, I was loving him all over when he first arrived. We need that guy back.

And I sincerely doubt they will be buying him out.
- Atomic Wedgie

Having Gardiner and Rielly on the roster will make his skill set redundant and his contract detrimental. They'll have to try and trade him for whatever they can get, and use the amnesty buyout if necessary.

Eg.

Cap Hits:
Subban - $2.875 - RFA
Del Zotto - $2.55 - RFA
Liles - $4.25 - UFA


- 1979AD

Cap Hits:
Subban - $2.875 - RFA
Del Zotto - $2.55 - RFA
Liles - $4.25 - UFA

There is a difference.

id rather the open roster spot
- truth.serum

Meh, there is no need to throw Liles away for nothing. Roster spots will be open, dont you worry about that.

Eg.

Cap Hits:
Subban - $2.875
Del Zotto - $2.55
Liles - $4.25

- 1979AD

his cap hit is 3.875, but yes, doesnt work

There is a big difference between signing a contract as a UFA and as a RFA. Especially when one contract was signed when the Cap was on the rise, and the other two when the cap was going down.
- systemtool

Of course there are circumstances to explain the difference in salaries. It doesn't change the fact he's ridiculously overpaid by current standards.

Having Gardiner and Rielly on the roster will make his skill set redundant and his contract detrimental. They'll have to try and trade him for whatever they can get, and use the amnesty buyout if necessary.
- 1979AD

I see no reason why you cant have all three. Cant have enough good puck moving Dmen.

his cap hit is 3.875, but yes, doesnt work
- truth.serum

I stand corrected, thanks. Still too high though.

Of course there are circumstances to explain the difference in salaries. It doesn't change the fact he's ridiculously overpaid by current standards.
- 1979AD

Nothing needs changing except the fact where we call him ridiculously overpaid. He isnt. Thats why the circumstances which explain his salary are relevant.

Meh, there is no need to throw Liles away for nothing. Roster spots will be open, dont you worry about that.
- systemtool

there will? look at our d, and this doesnt include rielly


http://capgeek.com/mapleleafs

I see no reason why you cant have all three. Cant have enough good puck moving Dmen.
- systemtool

Because one isn't particularly good and paid way too much for the next 4 years.

Haha Randy Moss is an idiot.

Nothing needs changing except the fact where we call him ridiculously overpaid. He isnt. Thats why the circumstances which explain his salary are relevant.
- systemtool

So you think Liles should be kept around for the next 4 years?

there will? look at our d, and this doesnt include rielly


http://capgeek.com/mapleleafs
- truth.serum

This proves nothing that contradicts what I said.

It only shows 4 dmen, one of which is Komi who is the one who should be bought out. Which leaves 3 spots open. Like I said, there will be roster spots. 3 of them at the least. Just like I said.

Nothing needs changing except the fact where we call him ridiculously overpaid. He isnt. Thats why the circumstances which explain his salary are relevant.
- systemtool

id may be enough to simply amnesty komi, but i think the organization realizes though that the biggest weakness is on D, maybe even more than in net, the overhall is needed there.

id rather the open roster spot
- truth.serum

For who?

Leafs don't have anyone better at the moment who can replace Liles.

I think a more plausible scenario is an amnesty buyout in the summer of 2014.

So you think Liles should be kept around for the next 4 years?
- 1979AD

I said what I think. They should look to trade him. If not, I have no problem with him being around. Its only 3 years after this one. Not a big deal at all.

This proves nothing that contradicts what I said.

It only shows 4 dmen, one of which is Komi who is the one who should be bought out. Which leaves 3 spots open. Like I said, there will be roster spots. 3 of them at the least. Just like I said.
- systemtool

if they decide kostka is greater than liles, kiss him goodbye.

Cap Hits:
Subban - $2.875 - RFA
Del Zotto - $2.55 - RFA
Liles - $4.25 - UFA

There is a difference.
- LeafMan

lol lou we know logic has no place in here!

good point though.

so yes, liles is not rielly or gardiner, but you know what he is people...a puck moving D man who is more of a vet, someone to guide gardiner and rielly...god forbid we kept him.

buy out komisarek, and then make a trade we get a good prospect and a salary dump, not a reliable D man like Liles.

leafs nation, always up in arms about the dumbest poop...first bozak, now liles....whos next?

Meh, there is no need to throw Liles away for nothing. Roster spots will be open, dont you worry about that.
- systemtool

there is always a need by some other team for a puck moving defensemen.

Always!!

Having Gardiner and Rielly on the roster will make his skill set redundant and his contract detrimental. They'll have to try and trade him for whatever they can get, and use the amnesty buyout if necessary.
- 1979AD

For the love of Spinner's Dad, can we not talk about Rielly with the Leafs next year?

Pretty please?

lol lou we know logic has no place in here!

good point though.

so yes, liles is not rielly or gardiner, but you know what he is people...a puck moving D man who is more of a vet, someone to guide gardiner and rielly...god forbid we kept him.

buy out komisarek, and then make a trade we get a good prospect and a salary dump, not a reliable D man like Liles.

leafs nation, always up in arms about the dumbest poop...first bozak, now liles....whos next?
- big_dion

Grabovski.

Cap Hits:
Subban - $2.875 - RFA
Del Zotto - $2.55 - RFA
Liles - $4.25 - UFA

There is a difference.
- LeafMan

you mean the fact that you can only sign with one team limits a guys options?!?!?

NO WAY

people purposely blind themselves so that they only see what they want to see.

if they decide kostka is greater than liles, kiss him goodbye.
- truth.serum

They have 3 spots open. They can keep both.

No reason to just throw players away without a logical plan and replacement in place.