Name a defenseman with a 2.75m cap hit that you think is a better all around player than Sekera. As for Stafford, I agree that he doesn't actually have that consistency, but if he started putting up 80 point seasons, I'd be more than happy to reconsider my opinion on him.

And the only thing that keeps OV from being a 40-50 goal scorer is his own laziness. Skill has absolutely nothing to do with it.
- BuffaJoe

ill play your game;

just a few

Corvo
White
Coliacavo
Kulikov
Delzotto
Derek Morris
Ekman-Larson
Doug Murray
Bagosian

this is not in order

Sbisa, Sarich, Gil, Kevin Klein, Ryan Ellis, Del Zotto, Niskanen, Doug Murray, Shattenkirk, and Bogosian come to mind.
- JVince11

others not named so far

Jamie Mcbain- is it me or does he always score on us like alfredsson

Sbisa, Sarich, Gil, Kevin Klein, Ryan Ellis, Del Zotto, Niskanen, Doug Murray, Shattenkirk, and Bogosian come to mind.
- JVince11

Didn't realize Shattenkirk and Bogo were such bargain contracts. Sbisa=meh, Sarich= getting old, Gil = old, but I'd take him, Ellis = hasn't proved anything, del zotto = touche, Niskanen = average, stats inflated by the Pens, Murray = not nearly as offensive, much more physical, but not 'balanced'. I'd rather have Sekera playing like he is now over most of those guys.

Man, I am so freakin excited for tonight - me wanty a brawly.


- sambarugh

Same here!
It's gonna be a physical game.
John Scott will be busy tonight.

Didn't realize Shattenkirk and Bogo were such bargain contracts. Sbisa=meh, Sarich= getting old, Gil = old, but I'd take him, Ellis = hasn't proved anything, del zotto = touche, Niskanen = average, stats inflated by the Pens, Murray = not nearly as offensive, much more physical, but not 'balanced'. I'd rather have Sekera playing like he is now over most of those guys.
- BuffaJoe

il allow shattinkirk to be taken off the list cause as I was going though im pretyt sure thats his first contract I could be wrong.

Even you just said it's takes a D-man until 26 to enter his prime. Myers is 22. He will be fine
- sbroads24

I don't think we should get rid of him at all, but move him down the depth chart in the mean time. He still has a lot to prove, and I think his contract size was waaaaay unjustified.

Watch me contradict myself from yesterday in 3...2...1...

I think we should avoid excess physicality with the Bruins tonight, stay focused on the game. Were on a 4 game losing streak.

If we got over the top and challenge them and the beat us down, they are just asking to extend the distraction and embarassment that came with Lucic running over Miller.
- Buffalo--Sabres

I respect your opinion of course - I'm just the other way completely.

I don't care if we lose 0-25 and lose 6 players to IR.

Until we stand up and take them on, and I mean really take them on physically, they will own us. And that means more than Gaustad having a half assed sweater tug with Lucic.

il allow shattinkirk to be taken off the list cause as I was going though im pretyt sure thats his first contract I could be wrong.
- hubie

wow, Shattenkirk is still on his ELC. Plays like a vet. I bet his second contract will go for more than Sekera's .

Didn't realize Shattenkirk and Bogo were such bargain contracts. Sbisa=meh, Sarich= getting old, Gil = old, but I'd take him, Ellis = hasn't proved anything, del zotto = touche, Niskanen = average, stats inflated by the Pens, Murray = not nearly as offensive, much more physical, but not 'balanced'. I'd rather have Sekera playing like he is now over most of those guys.
- BuffaJoe

False.

ill play your game;

just a few

Corvo
White
Coliacavo
Kulikov
Delzotto
Derek Morris
Ekman-Larson
Doug Murray
Bagosian

this is not in order
- hubie

Corvo???????????????????? Coliacovo??????

Corvo???????????????????? Coliacovo??????
- sbroads24

yea... those I didn't agree with.... lol

Corvo???????????????????? Coliacovo??????
- sbroads24

do you not agree or not know who they are?

Corvo???????????????????? Coliacovo??????
- sbroads24

643 games 283 points ran point on pp always liked him

coliacavo just has always stuck in my head

370 games 139 pts 68 more games 59 more points the suckeera

I respect your opinion of course - I'm just the other way completely.

I don't care if we lose 0-25 and lose 6 players to IR.

Until we stand up and take them on, and I mean really take them on physically, they will own us. And that means more than Gaustad having a half assed sweater tug with Lucic.
- sambarugh

without mccormick, kaleta and regher in the lineup we shouldnt try to bully them. im not saying we shouldnt play physical but i think it would be a mistake to get involved with any after the whilstle shenanigans tonight.

wow, Shattenkirk is still on his ELC. Plays like a vet. I bet his second contract will go for more than Sekera's .
- BuffaJoe

nice round number 6-7 mil?

nice round number 6-7 mil?
- hubie

THis is why I was saying I thought Myers deal wasn't so bad.. guys like Karlsson, Piets, Shattenkirk, Murray, Bogosian, etc... are going to be making more than Myers will on their next contracts... get ahead of the inflation curve.

THis is why I was saying I thought Myers deal wasn't so bad.. guys like Karlsson, Piets, Shattenkirk, Murray, Bogosian, etc... are going to be making more than Myers will on their next contracts... get ahead of the inflation curve.
- JVince11

maybe.

do you not agree or not know who they are?
- hubie

Ask Carolina or Boston fans about Corvo. Coliacovo can't stay healthy to save his life, he's only played in 2 of Detroit's games

do you not agree or not know who they are?
- hubie

Other than that I agree with your list for the most part

without mccormick, kaleta and regher in the lineup we shouldnt try to bully them. im not saying we shouldnt play physical but i think it would be a mistake to get involved with any after the whilstle shenanigans tonight.
- joshs

Regher has had what, one fight since we signed him? Kaleta can't fight. McCormick would be nice but nbd.

Scott, Ott, Foligno, Stafford, Weber (Myers SHOULD get involved but won't)

nice round number 6-7 mil?
- hubie

I think he'll get a $5.5 for being the little guy (5'11"), Pietrangelo(6'3") will get the $6-7.

THis is why I was saying I thought Myers deal wasn't so bad.. guys like Karlsson, Piets, Shattenkirk, Murray, Bogosian, etc... are going to be making more than Myers will on their next contracts... get ahead of the inflation curve.
- JVince11

We still could have saved some change for this year and next years team, by easing him into the big bucks with a $3.5m -$4m start over this season and next. He's got potential, but it's still just POTENTIAL until he starts cleaning up his game.

Regher has had what, one fight since we signed him? Kaleta can't fight. McCormick would be nice but nbd.

Scott, Ott, Foligno, Stafford, Weber (Myers SHOULD get involved but won't)
- sambarugh

I don't really want our 12M d-man this season to re-break his wrist in a fight... Same goes for Ehrhoff.

We still could have saved some change for this year and next years team, by easing him into the big bucks with a $3.5m -$4m start over this season and next. He's got potential, but it's still just POTENTIAL until he starts cleaning up his game.
- BuffaJoe

12M, 6M, 5M, 5M, 4M, 3.5M, and 3M

that is his salaries each year of his contract... we will essentially be paying him the least for perhaps his best years.