I still think both options remain on the table, strictly due to the financials and the upcoming FA status of Giroux, Schenn, Couturier & Read.
- Jsaquella

2014, for sure.

I don't expect anything until then.

My guess would be something like Voracek, maybe him and a pick/prospect package. They'd probably ask for Schenn or Couturier first
- Jsaquella

I would say Voracek and 2-3 round pick would be something i wouldnt get too worked up about.

Right. And I didn't blame him. My point was that even with "Mr. Playoffs" they didn't win a Cup. Making him all the more eligible for a buyout imho. They can just as easily not win a Cup without him. However, his money could be spent elswhere making the team better overall.
- Scoob

I guess we'll just have to disagree because I don't see how not having won a Cup makes him more eligible for a buyout. If you take him off that 2010 team, I doubt they even make it to the Cup finals. He lead all players in scoring in the playoffs that year. Danny has been an ESSENTIAL cog in giving the team post-season success since he's been here. IMO that makes him LESS eligible for a buyout.

Am I the only one that wonders why we gave Simmonds almost 4 mil? Dont get me wrong I love his game and what he brings but that seems a bit high for his skillset.
- flyerfan28

Power winger, capable of 25+ goals...pretty much the going rate.

Am I the only one that wonders why we gave Simmonds almost 4 mil? Dont get me wrong I love his game and what he brings but that seems a bit high for his skillset.
- flyerfan28

If he can consistently pot 25-30 goals over the life of the contract plus add his grit, it'll be a good deal.

OK, thank you for clarifying.
- bradleyc4

Please never speak for Bill again.

Hilton.

I would say Voracek and 2-3 round pick would be something i wouldnt get too worked up about.
- Stinkfitz

I'd strongly prefer to use those resources on a better player.

I guess we'll just have to disagree because I don't see how not having won a Cup makes him more eligible for a buyout. If you take him off that 2010 team, I doubt they even make it to the Cup finals. He lead all players in scoring in the playoffs that year. Danny has been an ESSENTIAL cog in giving the team post-season success since he's been here. IMO that makes him LESS eligible for a buyout.
- NickTheKid87

Ultimately the goal is to win the Cup. It's been a while since that last happened.

I think it's possible to spend his cap hit to make the overall team better. Imho he's more easily replaced than Bryz.

Bill how in the world does Knuble get 2nd line minutes??? He is completely invisible on the ice except when he is handing the other team the puck. Crazy he should be on the 4th line for a while.

Ultimately the goal is to win the Cup. It's been a while since that last happened.

I think it's possible to spend his cap hit to make the overall team better. Imho he's more easily replaced than Bryz.
- Scoob

I agree considering his age and skill set, which seems set for deterioration. He's had injury issues as well.

Please never speak for Bill again.

Hilton.
- aightwebang17

I guess I just don't understand the need to, on one hand, claim the Flyers should keep everything on the table (which it seems they do judging by their aggressive GMing, a point you just agreed with me on); then, in the very same breath, criticize their failure to win a championship. I mean, what else is a fellow to infer when you juxtapose these two statements next to each other?
- BulliesPhan87

Let's break this down... I think we agree on the major issue. They've been agressive in the past and they should continue. The results are mixed though. So it's not inconsistent for me to criticize the lack of results. By the way, you could have ended your last sentence with "statements". "Next to each other" is a redundant clause.

Ultimately the goal is to win the Cup. It's been a while since that last happened.

I think it's possible to spend his cap hit to make the overall team better. Imho he's more easily replaced than Bryz.
- Scoob

It's possible, sure, but I don't see keeping Briere as a hindrance to playoffs success in and of itself. If they use the freed up cap resources to improve the team, that's fine, but otherwise I'd really prefer Danny on the team.

As for Bryz, his contract represents a way bigger cap obstacle than Briere's, especially with that Luongo rule on the books.

I'd strongly prefer to use those resources on a better player.
- BulliesPhan87

I would like that too but reallistically who could Voracek and a 2 or 3 round pick fetch? I would think Jay Bo would be the ceiling for that combo.

I would like that too but reallistically who could Voracek and a 2 or 3 round pick fetch? I would think Jay Bo would be the ceiling for that combo.
- Stinkfitz

That's not really what I'm saying, that Voracek + pick should be spent on somebody else. But you could use he or that pick as part of a different package.

That was pre-amnesty and pre-cap dropping, however. It's something they may have to consider under the new system.
- bmeltzer

Danny's PO performances each year pretty much make me hesitant to buy him out. Although, if he has an average or below post season this year, I'd have to rethink my position.

Am I the only one that wonders why we gave Simmonds almost 4 mil? Dont get me wrong I love his game and what he brings but that seems a bit high for his skillset.
- flyerfan28

I think everyone on the team except Bryz has been overpaid this year.

Danny's PO performances each year pretty much make me hesitant to buy him out. Although, if he has an average or below post season this year, I'd have to rethink my position.
- 77rams

The Flyers will not be buying out Matt Walker. His contract expires this July. I also doubt they will be buying out Meszaros, whose contract ends next summer. It's a waste of a compliance buyout to use it on a deal with that short a term.

I still think that Briere and Bryzgalov are the most likely candidates. Briere simply for the cap space it would create, plus his age. Bryzgalov because his deal is a long term backloaded deal that he could possibly retire before it expires. If he does that, the Flyers will get nailed with a significant cap hit for a retired player.
- Jsaquella

I don't like the idea of buying out Briere's contract as of yet, even with the substantial 6.5M cap hit. I think this is the time the team need him the most. He's a great leader and a mentor for the up-and-coming centers and youngsters on this team. He brings a calming presence to the team along with Kimmo. He was the best forward last game with 10 shots on goal. An average of .81 points per game with philly and an absolute monster in the playoffs (1.01P/GP). He is # 37 on the NHL All-Time Playoff Points per Game Leaders.
http://www.quanthockey.co...nts-per-game-leaders.html


At 35 years of age, he looks like a kid and still skates like one. Still got the speed and the scoring touch even though last season the goal numbers took a dive but he still came up big in the playoffs as usual. He doesn't play a physical/grinder type game and he seems to know when to take time off to prevent long term injury so I think he may be a able to play with his attributes/qualities for a longer period of time then the average 35+ year Nhl player. Only 2 more years left on this contract after this season. I can't see a buyout option used on him this summer but maybe the year after. But I still think and hope he can perform at 37-38.

Unless his numbers take a huge dive or if cap space is needed for a new contract via trade or free agency (Perry, B. Ryan, Yandle, etc) I think we keep him.

Besides, how can we live without that classic fist pump goal celebration !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3bL_l0l1NA

It's possible, sure, but I don't see keeping Briere as a hindrance to playoffs success in and of itself. If they use the freed up cap resources to improve the team, that's fine, but otherwise I'd really prefer Danny on the team.
- BulliesPhan87

In his case that would be the only reason.

As for Bryz, his contract represents a way bigger cap obstacle than Briere's, especially with that Luongo rule on the books.

Yes, but I think he's harder to replace.

And then the summer after is when G, Schenn, Coots and Read become RFAs (save Read who'll be an UFA).
- NickTheKid87

That was my point. Although only a year will be left on danny's contract, it may be needed to resign the youngsters... I don't see them buying him out this summer unless they find a replacement via free agency

I don't like the idea of buying out Briere's contract as of yet, even with the substantial 6.5M cap hit. I think this is the time the team need him the most. He's a great leader and a mentor for the up-and-coming centers and youngsters on this team. He brings a calming presence to the team along with Kimmo. He was the best forward last game with 10 shots on goal. An average of .81 points per game with philly and an absolute monster in the playoffs (1.01P/GP). He is # 37 on the NHL All-Time Playoff Points per Game Leaders.
http://www.quanthockey.co...nts-per-game-leaders.html


At 35 years of age, he looks like a kid and still skates like one. Still got the speed and the scoring touch even though last season the goal numbers took a dive but he still came up big in the playoffs as usual. He doesn't play a physical/grinder type game and he seems to know when to take time off to prevent long term injury so I think he may be a able to play with his attributes/qualities for a longer period of time then the average 35+ year Nhl player. Only 2 more years left on this contract after this season. I can't see a buyout option used on him this summer but maybe the year after. But I still think and hope he can perform at 37-38.

Unless his numbers take a huge dive or if cap space is needed for a new contract via trade or free agency (Perry, B. Ryan, Yandle, etc) I think we keep him.

Besides, how can we live without that classic fist pump goal celebration !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3bL_l0l1NA
- Chris48

I'm well aware of all the Briere brings and he's one of my favorite players. that said, I stand by my comments. His age, declining regular season play and most important the declining cap number make Briere a candidate for a compliance buy out

- PLindbergh31

Yea, Yea. I didn't want to go there

Let's break this down... I think we agree on the major issue. They've been agressive in the past and they should continue. The results are mixed though. So it's not inconsistent for me to criticize the lack of results. By the way, you could have ended your last sentence with "statements". "Next to each other" is a redundant clause.
- 2731color

I wasn't saying you're inconsistent, I'm saying you implied a failure to explore all options is the root of their lack of championships. To be frank, I really don't know what the point you're trying to make is, if that wasn't the implication.

Also, thanks for the grammar lesson. Perhaps you could take a look at my use of the semi-colon a page back and advise me on that, too.

That was my point. Although only a year will be left on danny's contract, it may be needed to resign the youngsters... I don't see them buying him out this summer unless they find a replacement via free agency
- JFlyers00

Yup. And Schenn or Coots should be ready to take over the number 2 center role by the start of the 2014-15 season.