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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
Yea, Yea. I didn't want to go there
- 77rams


Big weekend. 3 points minimum.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
On a side note, I have a good feeling about tonight.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
On a side note, I have a good feeling about tonight.
- JFlyers00


It's hard not to when you're playing a team like the Caps
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
Yup. And Schenn or Coots should be ready to take over the number 2 center role by the start of the 2014-15 season.
- NickTheKid87


Methinks the Flyers need to decide what kind of player they want BSchenn to be and work strongly on that. As of right now, I don't have a clue, nor do I see any reason why he would be an asset at center.
Stinkfitz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 08.14.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
That's not really what I'm saying, that Voracek + pick should be spent on somebody else. But you could use he or that pick as part of a different package.
- BulliesPhan87


Got ya. Would you be opposed to aquiring him at all? if not who/what would you be willing to part with for him?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 1 @ 3:08 PM ET
Please never speak for Bill again.

Hilton.

- aightwebang17



it's about time someone stepped in and said this.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Big weekend. 3 points minimum.
- PLindbergh31


I think we really need 4 pts. Gotta start getting into the mix here. On sportsnet, they were saying no team that was at least 6 pts back of 8th last year with 41 games left actually made the playoffs. This season is a different animal but we have to start climbing back up the hill.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
I think we really need 4 pts. Gotta start getting into the mix here. On sportsnet, they were saying no team that was at least 6 pts back of 8th last year with 41 games left actually made the playoffs. This season is a different animal but we have to start climbing back up the hill.
- Hextall271


No question. 41 games remain, which is half a season.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
Methinks the Flyers need to decide what kind of player they want BSchenn to be and work strongly on that. As of right now, I don't have a clue, nor do I see any reason why he would be an asset at center.
- 77rams


Schenn's started off slow but he's in his second full year. Gotta have patience with the kids. I think they hope he can become a more skillful Mike Richards. If he reaches his potential, he could easily be a number 2 center. He still has a lot of value, should the team decide to move him.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
I think we really need 4 pts. Gotta start getting into the mix here. On sportsnet, they were saying no team that was at least 6 pts back of 8th last year with 41 games left actually made the playoffs. This season is a different animal but we have to start climbing back up the hill.
- Hextall271


I'd like to know if that statistic is common over multiple years or if last year was an anomaly.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:12 PM ET
My thoughts on the buyout are that Homer is going to bring in some outside talent with potentially nasty contracts and then they may be the ones getting the buyout. It's so up in the air it really depends on who is available. It's fun to think of possibilities. But with this team I don't hold my breath.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Feb 1 @ 3:13 PM ET
I wasn't saying you're inconsistent, I'm saying you implied a failure to explore all options is the root of their lack of championships. To be frank, I really don't know what the point you're trying to make is, if that wasn't the implication.

Also, thanks for the grammar lesson. Perhaps you could take a look at my use of the semi-colon a page back and advise me on that, too.

- BulliesPhan87

This is the last time... My point was that the Flyers should keep everything on the table. I did not mean to imply the failure to explore options was the root cause of their lack of championships. It's the results. It's easy for me to criticize results while sitting on my rear. Their agressive decisions sometimes blow up in their face. Chris Gratton was a perfect example. Sorry, I'm really bad with the semi-colon thing, so I'd be of no help.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Feb 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
It's hard not to when you're playing a team like the Caps
- NickTheKid87



You mean " The Craps "
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
Got ya. Would you be opposed to aquiring him at all? if not who/what would you be willing to part with for him?
- Stinkfitz

I would probably be opposed to acquiring him, I'd prefer to devote trade resources to a younger defenseman.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
This is the last time... My point was that the Flyers should keep everything on the table. I did not mean to imply the failure to explore options was the root cause of their lack of championships. It's the results. It's easy for me to criticize results while sitting on my rear. Their agressive decisions sometimes blow up in their face. Chris Gratton was a perfect example. Sorry, I'm really bad with the semi-colon thing, so I'd be of no help.
- 2731color

Well, they're a team that DOES keep all options on the table (as demonstrated by literally trading their franchise pillars within half an hour of each other), so I really don't get the complaint. If anything you should be satisfied with them on that front. When you're a team that explores all options and pursues players aggressively, you're necessarily making yourself vulnerable to face-explode scenarios. The only way they can be super-aggressive and avoid that is to hire a legitimate psychic as their GM.

What the Flyers have really not explored lately is extended patience with any one approach.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
Bryz has never posted a save % above .910 outside of Phoenix. That's below average.
- bradleyc4


.913 in the KHL.........BOOM!!!!!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
"JVR leads the Leafs in goals and Luke Schenn leads the Flyers in giveaways"

Keep seeing this on Twitter and irks me every time.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 1 @ 3:31 PM ET
Well, they're a team that DOES keep all options on the table (as demonstrated by literally trading their franchise pillars within half an hour of each other), so I really don't get the complaint. If anything you should be satisfied with them on that front. When you're a team that explores all options and pursues players aggressively, you're necessarily making yourself vulnerable to face-explode scenarios. The only way they can be super-aggressive and avoid that is to hire a legitimate psychic as their GM.

What the Flyers have really not explored lately is extended patience with any one approach.

- BulliesPhan87


Columbus has tried that for several years. Hasn't panned out yet.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 3:32 PM ET
"JVR leads the Leafs in goals and Luke Schenn leads the Flyers in giveaways"

Keep seeing this on Twitter and irks me every time.

- NickTheKid87


Schenn has played well, but seeing JVR score goals while the Flyers can't score in a whorehouse with a fistful of hundreds is tough to take.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
"JVR leads the Leafs in goals and Luke Schenn leads the Flyers in giveaways"

Keep seeing this on Twitter and irks me every time.

- NickTheKid87


...and we can't score. hahah

Thing is though, say we kept JVR, we'd still have a gaping hole on D and I have been very happy with Schenn overall. Both players needed a fresh start.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
meh.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
Schenn has played well, but seeing JVR score goals while the Flyers can't score in a whorehouse with a fistful of hundreds is tough to take.
- PLindbergh31


Schenn helps this team more than JVR would. Schenn's played really well.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
"JVR leads the Leafs in goals and Luke Schenn leads the Flyers in giveaways"

Keep seeing this on Twitter and irks me every time.

- NickTheKid87


JVR is also tied for third worst on the team with -3.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
...and we can't score. hahah

Thing is though, say we kept JVR, we'd still have a gaping hole on D and I have been very happy with Schenn overall. Both players needed a fresh start.

- Hextall271


We'd have a huge hole on D. Besides, like I've said before, it's not the personnel, it's the execution in regards to the offense.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
Schenn helps this team more than JVR would. Schenn's played really well.
- NickTheKid87


Probably one of those trades that works out well for both teams.
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