I agree. I don't see a lot of reason to trade him for a Prospect and pick. I would rather trade him and a pick for another veteran who can play top 4. Or even keep him if he will sign for less.
- abware

Would you trade him for Mezaros from PHI?

He's a RW, EDM definitely has to trade one of the "untouchables"...I would say Yakupov++ for Perry.



I would consider that deal if EDM has no long term plans or short term use for Whitney. It's a fair deal. I would love to see Dumoulin or Morrow or Maata and forget the 2nd round pick.
- deks1

I'm sure you would... but none of them are worth a "rental" The way the pens d is playin I would expect more then a second, but not one of them.... too much

I agree. I don't see a lot of reason to trade him for a Prospect and pick. I would rather trade him and a pick for another veteran who can play top 4. Or even keep him if he will sign for less.
- abware

wont get a top 4 for him... you might get a 1st at the deadline IF he is doing ok... maybe

Oh hey iggysbff have u learned anything new about the oilers hahhaa
- hallwillcrushu

Look whose back...the biggest embarrasment to all Oiler fans...

tard.

Look whose back...the biggest embarrasment to all Oiler fans...

tard.
- Iggysbff

Shiney!

Yay, a blog about how the Oilers are not going to do anything. So... Whitney gone within the week?

Look whose back...the biggest embarrasment to all Oiler fans...

tard.
- Iggysbff

I think he has a man crush on you.

Think cap hit. Horcoff's actual buyout number is $4.7mil. His cap hit is a combined $11mil for the last two years of his contract. If you were to buy him out and then sign him for $2mil per, the actual amount is down to $8.7mil. While it might sound like the player wouldn't want that, I think Horcoff hates how fans bash him over his contract. He'd win the love of many fans if he willingly took a pay cut.

Keep in mind his compliance buyout would not appear on the Oilers cap, so the $5.5mil that is currently there could be turned into $2mil per.
- Maxbone

Correct me if I'm wrong but the buyout is at full contract value. So its 7 million. Pay him 2 mill for 2 season and you are all of a sudden paying him 11 million for two seasons just to save 6 million in cap space? So your actually paying him an extra 4 million to save 6 in cap space?

Pfft. If an intruder breaks in theyll hide and leave you to be murderaped. Dogs ftw. Not even close.
- sanfordnson

Then explain this.

Then explain this.





- abware

Worlds first vegetarian bear?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the buyout is at full contract value. So its 7 million. Pay him 2 mill for 2 season and you are all of a sudden paying him 11 million for two seasons just to save 6 million in cap space? So your actually paying him an extra 4 million to save 6 in cap space?
- Iggysbff

it should be noted that you can not buy out theplayer and then resign them to a lower contract... that is cap circumvention and the nhl was quite aware of this when they put the compliance buyouts in the new cba.

Please explain this...




http://www.youtube.com/wa..._detailpage&v=ldc4xtktkNA


See Sam Gagner versus Francios B Anaheim Ducks Jan 13, 2012...

http://www.youtube.com/wa..._detailpage&v=MT7gvsOJMI4

100% effort!! Warrior. ¿Where was Whorecoff on that one? ¡Film Actors Guild! Why is that guy still wearing the C?

- pker2theend

Could you gay a thread out any more? Maybe with Burrows 'fight tapes' but even that might take a back seat to this...

Please explain this...




http://www.youtube.com/wa..._detailpage&v=ldc4xtktkNA


See Sam Gager versus Francios B Anaheim Ducks Jan 13, 2012...

http://www.youtube.com/wa..._detailpage&v=MT7gvsOJMI4

100% effort!! Warrior. ¿Where was Whorecoff on that one? ¡Film Actors Guild! Why is that guy still wearing the C?
- al3535

Having a few drinks again tonight?

Also, for youtube if you want to have the video instead of link, just paste the embed code. no need for URL on either end

Worlds first vegetarian bear?
- sanfordnson

Black bear dude....eat berries and garbage, will occasionally scavenge and eat already dead carcases, not a hunter killer tho.

You a city boy?
You Canadian?

Could you gay a thread out any more? Maybe with Burrows 'fight tapes' but even that might take a back seat to this...

- al3535

Too much angry face.

Too much angry face.

- abware

lol ya ok I will give you that as well yes I am drunk. But in my defence it is late.

Having a few drinks again tonight?

Also, for youtube if you want to have the video instead of link, just paste the embed code. no need for URL on either end
- abware

I just copy the URL the rest is up to my computer (I THINK?)

I just copy the URL the rest is up to my computer (I THINK?)
- al3535

If you copy embed then we don't have to keep opening new windows and we know what we are getting into.

If you copy embed then we don't have to keep opening new windows and we know what we are getting into.
- heh49314

ya ok

note to self copy embed.

Ps: LETS GO OILERS!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong but the buyout is at full contract value. So its 7 million. Pay him 2 mill for 2 season and you are all of a sudden paying him 11 million for two seasons just to save 6 million in cap space? So your actually paying him an extra 4 million to save 6 in cap space?
- Iggysbff

No, it's not at $7mil. Two-thirds value because of his age. Unless the new CBA has changed that, but I don't think it did. It's only full amount if the players is over 35.

No, it's not at $7mil. Two-thirds value because of his age. Unless the new CBA has changed that, but I don't think it did. It's only full amount if the players is over 35.
- Maxbone

Is there no buyout option during the season? Cause I am not entirely convinced they buy him out unless they really need the space seeing as we got plenty of space(at the moment at least). Yes his contract is brutal but he is quite serviceable as 3rd line center.

Is there no buyout option during the season? Cause I am not entirely convinced they buy him out unless they really need the space seeing as we got plenty of space(at the moment at least). Yes his contract is brutal but he is quite serviceable as 3rd line center.
- heh49314

No, you can do buyouts at certain points throughout a season. The Oilers will wait to buyout anyone until the end of the season when compliance buyouts don't count against the cap. If there was a period now when they could buy him out, they'd be stuck with 2/3 of his contract counting against the cap, spread out over a number of seasons. Nobody wants that.

No, you can do buyouts at certain points throughout a season. The Oilers will wait to buyout anyone until the end of the season when compliance buyouts don't count against the cap. If there was a period now when they could buy him out, they'd be stuck with 2/3 of his contract counting against the cap, spread out over a number of seasons. Nobody wants that.
- Maxbone

Guess what I meant was going into next season during the off season. Don't see the real incentive as we have lots of cap room even with the reduced cap. I would expect them to only buy him out if an opportunity comes up for some key free agent signings.