I've been thinking about what the team should probably look at doing. To be completely honest I'd like to keep the kids.

Calgary is in a poophole right now, and I would look at bringing in Giordano for some sort of package including Voracek.

Sign either Visnovsky or Streit for the back end in FA.

Draft D, and hope one of the kids grows up to be something special.
- flyer_nutter

This guys been hoping and waiting since he was your age...

If they land a good puck moving defenseman in trade by then, I wholeheartedly agree.
- Jsaquella

I wouldn't be shocked if they made a move or even said the cost is not worth it we'll have to deal with the pains of dealing with what we have while developing our own draft picks

I see it as a huge mistake to get into any long term deal for a Visnovsky or Streit in Free Agency. Maybe a one or two year deal at a reasonable Cap hit at the most.
- MJL

i definitely agree with that...no one out there worthy of a long term deal. i think there are a few players i'd be interested in for short term deals though

If they land a good puck moving defenseman in trade by then, I wholeheartedly agree.
- Jsaquella

This is what I am getting at. I dont really see that guy out there. Nor do I think teams will be very willing to trade that type of player unless it's a severe overpayment.

I am not high on Bogosian. Seen a lot of his games and he has been given every opportunity to take the next step. I am not really seeing #1 guy, in him.

Evander Kane might be a guy I would trade for, if Perry and Getzlaf are not available.

I wouldn't be shocked if they made a move or even said the cost is not worth it we'll have to deal with the pains of dealing with what we have while developing our own draft picks
- ob18

I wouldn't be shocked at anything.

That's all I'd say. They have until April 3rd to make changes on the roster. Loads of time.

But anything can happen in the playoffs. I will agree they're not a "serious" contender and wouldn't be a favorite to win.
- Jsaquella

They dont give the "cup" to teams that win the regular season. Anything can happen once you make the playoffs but this team needs to improve to become a serious contender (still have time).

I wouldn't be shocked at anything.
- Jsaquella

I don't think we should be shocked.

This is what I am getting at. I dont really see that guy out there. Nor do I think teams will be very willing to trade that type of player unless it's a severe overpayment.

I am not high on Bogosian. Seen a lot of his games and he has been given every opportunity to take the next step. I am not really seeing #1 guy, in him.

Evander Kane might be a guy I would trade for, if Perry and Getzlaf are not available.
- flyer_nutter

I agree on Kane. He's got some growing up to do, but he is massively talented.

I agree on Kane. He's got some growing up to do, but he is massively talented.
- Jsaquella

And will be very expensive to acquire.

I agree on Kane. He's got some growing up to do, but he is massively talented.
- Jsaquella

I would rather use the assets the Flyers have (Schenn/Voracek) to bring in a young quality d-man, but I dont really see that happening.

Kane needs a change of scenery big time. Is more appealing to me than a guy like Ryan.

No long term deals.

2-3 Maximum.

At this point I just dont see any real #1 d-men or guys with that potential out there. Yandle is not it, and I dont see Phoenix parting with OEL unless its for a kings random.

I think the Flyers have to accept they will either need to draft "that guy" or wait until they are truly available in FA or via trade. I dont see that happening any time soon. Young d-men with solid all round games cost a premium.
- flyer_nutter

Actually, I would not sign either player for any more then a 1 year deal now that I think about it.

They dont give the "cup" to teams that win the regular season. Anything can happen once you make the playoffs but this team needs to improve to become a serious contender (still have time).
- stveshdy

No question at all.

However, when the playoffs started last year, LA was an 8 seed. NJ was a 6. Look at the Devils defense from last year. On paper it's average, at best. Not a lot of speed and the best puck mover was Zidlicky, who is well past his prime. It was enough to get them to the SCF, past the Flyers and Rangers.

I look at the youth of the Flyers and feel that they will be a strong contender for a number of years in the future. I don't trade that youth to enhance the chances for a better shot for just this year or next. I want a guy that will be here in 4 or 5 years, when Giroux's in his prime and the Schenns and Couturiers are 25, 26 and nearing theirs.

I would rather use the assets the Flyers have (Schenn/Voracek) to bring in a young quality d-man, but I dont really see that happening.

Kane needs a change of scenery big time. Is more appealing to me than a guy like Ryan.
- flyer_nutter

The thing is, you can likely go hard after Perry or Getzlaff in UFA. Not going to find a number one defenseman there. Which is why I'd rather trade for the defense and sign the forwards

And will be very expensive to acquire.
- ob18

That's the rub. You can go hard after Perry or Getzlaff in UFA. Not going to find a good defenseman-or at least a number one in FA

Actually, I would not sign either player for any more then a 1 year deal now that I think about it.
- MJL

I for the most part definately agree with taking a patient approach with this group, until summer at least.

If the team is unable to find a young d-man with that star potential in the summer. Or is being asked to severely overpay I would take a 2-3 year gamble on a guy like Streit or Visnovsky.

Much closer to two years but if the number is really cap friendly, I would be alright with 3.

That's the rub. You can go hard after Perry or Getzlaff in UFA. Not going to find a good defenseman-or at least a number one in FA
- Jsaquella

You know the location I stand.

You know the location I stand.
- ob18

Trading for one doesn't preclude drafting one.

That's the rub. You can go hard after Perry or Getzlaff in UFA. Not going to find a good defenseman-or at least a number one in FA
- Jsaquella

I just have a real concern over the availability of such d-men even via trades.

Who is out there? Aside from Bogosian?

No question at all.

However, when the playoffs started last year, LA was an 8 seed. NJ was a 6. Look at the Devils defense from last year. On paper it's average, at best. Not a lot of speed and the best puck mover was Zidlicky, who is well past his prime. It was enough to get them to the SCF, past the Flyers and Rangers.

I look at the youth of the Flyers and feel that they will be a strong contender for a number of years in the future. I don't trade that youth to enhance the chances for a better shot for just this year or next. I want a guy that will be here in 4 or 5 years, when Giroux's in his prime and the Schenns and Couturiers are 25, 26 and nearing theirs.
- Jsaquella

The Devils played great at both ends of the ice and had over 100 points. I believe they were one point behind the Flyers and 7 points away from the best team in the East (which is around 3 games). That team was much better than people think going into the playoffs.

This is what I am getting at. I dont really see that guy out there. Nor do I think teams will be very willing to trade that type of player unless it's a severe overpayment.

I am not high on Bogosian. Seen a lot of his games and he has been given every opportunity to take the next step. I am not really seeing #1 guy, in him.

Evander Kane might be a guy I would trade for, if Perry and Getzlaf are not available.
- flyer_nutter

Bogosian is 22 years old. Very premature to look at him that way. He's hurt right now, but I'd be very interested in adding him in the right deal.

Why do we need a game changer?
- 77rams

Subban is a game changer and if you do not know why we need him I suspect you do not know what a game changer is

I just have a real concern over the availability of such d-men even via trades.

Who is out there? Aside from Bogosian?
- flyer_nutter

There's quite a few, not sure who is truly available.

But unless they go RFA offer sheet again, they're not finding one in free agency.

Trading for one doesn't preclude drafting one.
- Jsaquella

True, I don't see them getting what they want without it costing an arm & a leg at least.

Bogosian is 22 years old. Very premature to look at him that way. He's hurt right now, but I'd be very interested in adding him in the right deal.
- MJL

Personally, just dont believe in the guy.

Or with what it would take to get him.

I for the most part definately agree with taking a patient approach with this group, until summer at least.

If the team is unable to find a young d-man with that star potential in the summer. Or is being asked to severely overpay I would take a 2-3 year gamble on a guy like Streit or Visnovsky.

Much closer to two years but if the number is really cap friendly, I would be alright with 3.
- flyer_nutter

Both would be 35+ deals. I'll pass.