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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 5 @ 5:33 PM ET

I don't think we have the assets needed to change this lineup for the better.

I think we are more or less stuck with this lineup. I don't think schenn would bring that much of a return if you were to trade him. Him alone wouldn't get you a #1 dman.

Keep the team intact. Keep the draft picks. Suck all year and pick 1st overall.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 5 @ 5:34 PM ET
why hasnt danny syrvet been in the discussion of call ups?
- Flyers4Life88



Not an NHL defenseman.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 5 @ 5:35 PM ET
Does anyone have any thoughts/feelings/opinions on young defensemen the Flyers might be interested in acquiring?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:37 PM ET
I don't doubt the kids talent. But he has done nothing at the NHL level to suggest that he is better the Timonen is any aspect of the game. He can't even crack Phoenix's lineup right now.
- MJL


I take back the Timmonen comment as I got a little exhuberant. I have watched Rundlbad dominate in SEL and on the pp in Portland AHL. Just saying his talent level is off the charts, check him out on youtube. His skills are undeniable. I would jump at him and just use him primarily on the pp until his D is up to par. He needs to be paired with a Coburn or a stay at home guy.
I totally admire Kimmo and he is a heart and soul guy that is tough as nails for his size and has had one heck of a career.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:38 PM ET
Does anyone have any thoughts/feelings/opinions on young defensemen the Flyers might be interested in acquiring?
- Daman


Please read pages 1-14 and that should cover it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 5 @ 5:38 PM ET
Like a Runaway named Rundblad,

MJL, do you think Rundblad is worth taking a chance on?

- flyerdude17


Taking a chance on? Sure, why not. What's the price?

Thinking he is going to be better the Timonen even now is not realistic. He can't even stay in the Yotes lineup right now.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 5 @ 5:40 PM ET
Does anyone have any thoughts/feelings/opinions on young defensemen the Flyers might be interested in acquiring?
- Daman


Duncan Siemens. He is on my list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHM1mVkRvgE

http://www.hockeysfuture....prospects/duncan_siemens/
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:41 PM ET
A good player is a good player regardless of where he plays. And Carle is a good player.
- MJL


That being said is a bad player a bad player regardless of where he plays. Thank you Albert.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
Taking a chance on? Sure, why not. What's the price?

Thinking he is going to be better the Timonen even now is not realistic. He can't even stay in the Yotes lineup right now.

- MJL


Naslund was not good enough in Pittsburgh, Neely was not good enough in Vancouver, nor was Rick Vaive. I name Canuck example because I live her but the names of players who got traded because they were deemed expendable are endless.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:45 PM ET
Rundblad to Detroit for Tatar E4
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 5 @ 5:47 PM ET
Naslund was not good enough in Pittsburgh, Neely was not good enough in Vancouver, nor was Rick Vaive. I name Canuck example because I live her but the names of players who got traded because they were deemed expendable are endless.
- flyerdude17


Doesn't have much to do with Runblad. I would contact Bill Meltzer and ask his opinion. He is the leading authority around here on European players. I've only seen the kid play a few times. But I would think if how you're talking him up was the case. He'd have produced more, and would be a regular in the lineup. I'm not at all saying he won't be a good player in the future. You never know with a kid that young.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 5 @ 5:50 PM ET
Naslund was not good enough in Pittsburgh, Neely was not good enough in Vancouver, nor was Rick Vaive. I name Canuck example because I live her but the names of players who got traded because they were deemed expendable are endless.
- flyerdude17


Some times guys just need a change of scenery. Look at John LeClair. He had modest success in Montreal, but was being used as a third line center when the Flyers acquired him. Coming to a new city, playing a new role and obviously getting to play with a talent like Lindros unlocked his full potential.

Conversely, there's very good players that struggled along the way-Jaromir Jagr's a good example of that. He dominated in Pittsburgh, was up and down in Washington, then very good again in NYC.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 5 @ 5:55 PM ET
Taking a chance on? Sure, why not. What's the price?

Thinking he is going to be better the Timonen even now is not realistic. He can't even stay in the Yotes lineup right now.

- MJL


What do you think a realistic deal or Runbold would be?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:57 PM ET
Doesn't have much to do with Runblad. I would contact Bill Meltzer and ask his opinion. He is the leading authority around here on European players. I've only seen the kid play a few times. But I would think if how you're talking him up was the case. He'd have produced more, and would be a regular in the lineup. I'm not at all saying he won't be a good player in the future. You never know with a kid that young.
- MJL


With all due respect MJL I have never met anyone quite so negative and argumentive as you on HB. Let us give Rundblad a little time to see if he can make an impact with a new team. It is of my opinion that you get your opinions from what Bill Meltzer says, Paul Holmgren says, Peter Laviolette says and that is because I think you do not have what it takes as a hockey analyst to make those decisions on your own. Jsqualla is a guy that makes the most sense and he thinks with his own mind and really knows his stuff. I think the world of Meltzer too. Sometimes I wonder about Homer and Lavy but heh it is a tough job.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
What do you think a realistic deal or Runbold would be?
- jstross


I think a Rinaldo plus something may get it done. Rinaldo if they could minimize his zest for the sin bin is Coyote in your face hockey. I believe Rinaldo as much as I like his enthusiasm is expendable and probably would have interest from other teams.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
With all due respect MJL I have never met anyone quite so negative and argumentive as you on HB. Let us give Rundblad a little time to see if he can make an impact with a new team. It is of my opinion that you get your opinions from what Bill Meltzer says, Paul Holmgren says, Peter Laviolette says and that is because I think you do not have what it takes as a hockey analyst to make those decisions on your own. Jsqualla is a guy that makes the most sense and he thinks with his own mind and really knows his stuff. I think the world of Meltzer too. Sometimes I wonder about Homer and Lavy but heh it is a tough job.
- flyerdude17


Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 5 @ 6:00 PM ET
I think a Rinaldo plus something may get it done. Rinaldo if they could minimize his zest for the sin bin is Coyote in your face hockey. I believe Rinaldo as much as I like his enthusiasm is expendable and probably would have interest from other teams.
- flyerdude17


If they could trade him for a dman he'd be gone already imo

Rinaldo us a dime a dozen
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 5 @ 6:01 PM ET
What do you think a realistic deal or Runbold would be?
- jstross


I can't really say.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 5 @ 6:03 PM ET
I can't really say.
- MJL

With all due respect MJL I have never met anyone quite so negative and argumentive as you on HB. Let us give Rundblad a little time to see if he can make an impact with a new team. It is of my opinion that you get your opinions from what Bill Meltzer says, Paul Holmgren says, Peter Laviolette says and that is because I think you do not have what it takes as a hockey analyst to make those decisions on your own. Jsqualla is a guy that makes the most sense and he thinks with his own mind and really knows his stuff. I think the world of Meltzer too. Sometimes I wonder about Homer and Lavy but heh it is a tough job.

My point exactly, I can't really say.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:03 PM ET
If they could trade him for a dman he'd be gone already imo

Rinaldo us a dime a dozen

- Flyersgod

Yeah, plus he has a target forever painted on his back. I honestly wouldn't be opposed to moving him for a pick. I severely doubt you'd get anything higher than a late round 2nd round pick for him, if that. And yeah, he's definitely not going to be the center of any deal that brings back a D man of any value.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:05 PM ET
With all due respect MJL I have never met anyone quite so negative and argumentive as you on HB. Let us give Rundblad a little time to see if he can make an impact with a new team. It is of my opinion that you get your opinions from what Bill Meltzer says, Paul Holmgren says, Peter Laviolette says and that is because I think you do not have what it takes as a hockey analyst to make those decisions on your own. Jsqualla is a guy that makes the most sense and he thinks with his own mind and really knows his stuff. I think the world of Meltzer too. Sometimes I wonder about Homer and Lavy but heh it is a tough job.

My point exactly, I can't really say.

- flyerdude17

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 5 @ 6:06 PM ET
Gustafsson...
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 5 @ 6:07 PM ET
Gustafsson...
- stveshdy


Not healthy enough yet
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 5 @ 6:09 PM ET
With all due respect MJL I have never met anyone quite so negative and argumentive as you on HB. Let us give Rundblad a little time to see if he can make an impact with a new team. It is of my opinion that you get your opinions from what Bill Meltzer says, Paul Holmgren says, Peter Laviolette says and that is because I think you do not have what it takes as a hockey analyst to make those decisions on your own. Jsqualla is a guy that makes the most sense and he thinks with his own mind and really knows his stuff. I think the world of Meltzer too. Sometimes I wonder about Homer and Lavy but heh it is a tough job.
- flyerdude17


Is that what you think?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 5 @ 6:10 PM ET
Gustafsson...
- stveshdy

I want to see him do well. I do. But his name gets mentioned almost as needlessly as Shelly's does around here. He tops out as a 3rd pairing D man. Could he help? Theoretically. But he's really not going to be solving many issues at all.
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