Well there's no point for YOU to get into a discussion, becasue all you've done is insult the Prime Minister of Canada, making claims that you can't or won't back up.

If you could put forth a logical argument to support your assertions then perhaps you would gain a level on credibility with people.


I, for example, blew out you claim that J Chretien was a better PM, by using facts about how he put our Military in harms way with his policies and lack of support.

All I get back from you is silence, and insults.

Perhaps you should do a little research before shooting off at the mouth.


Here's an easy one. I supported the 2% cut in the GST, and you seen to think it was not...............why?
- Doppleganger

I do not need to do research dikweed. Insult the PM? Harper insults many canadians daily .

Lol man you must be related to him and or are a racist mutant.

Harper is out next election.


2%GST cut does not mean anything if anything it has hurt Canada. That is a weak topic the GST basically has no meaning in invaluating Harper. He cut it great as a consumer but from an economical stand point it was dumb.

How about Harpers foreign Policy? Yeah that's right.

I do not need to do research dikweed. Insult the PM? Harper insults many canadians daily .

Lol man you must be related to him and or are a racist mutant.

Harper is out next election.


2%GST cut does not mean anything if anything it has hurt Canada. That is a weak topic the GST basically has no meaning in invaluating Harper. He cut it great as a consumer but from an economical stand point it was dumb.

How about Harpers foreign Policy? Yeah that's right.
- C.DeloresTucker

1.So reducing the GST by 2%, or to put it another way, reducing the cost to consumers
the price of all goods and services by 2%...........was not good for the economy?

So if Canadian Tire puts a toaster oven on sale next week ( for less money) then they would sell fewer toaster ovens, or fewer? And if they don't sell more, and make less profits, is that what you mean by dumb??

How is lowering the price on something, to stimulate sales and bring in profits dumb? Is that not why people go into business for?

Are all sales dumb? Would you wait to buy something that is advertised to go on sale next week, or just pay full price today?





2. Please post the links to one example of PM Harper insulting anyone "every week" or just chalk that up as a lie.




3. Give me an example of what you think PM Harper did in Foreign Policy that was bad in your opinion.




4. Try to tone down the childish insults, and act like an adult. If you can't come up with a reasoned response, or a factual example to support your claims, continual name calling only proves your lack of depth on the issue, and that you're just shouting out something you heard somewhere, from someone you think is smarter than you, so you just repeat it as your position on an issue, without knowing anything about it. That just makes you look foolish.

1.So reducing the GST by 2%, or to put it another way, reducing the cost to consumers
the price of all goods and services by 2%...........was not good for the economy?

So if Canadian Tire puts a toaster oven on sale next week ( for less money) then they would sell fewer toaster ovens, or fewer? And if they don't sell more, and make less profits, is that what you mean by dumb??

How is lowering the price on something, to stimulate sales and bring in profits dumb? Is that not why people go into business for?

Are all sales dumb? Would you wait to buy something that is advertised to go on sale next week, or just pay full price today?





2. Please post the links to one example of PM Harper insulting anyone "every week" or just chalk that up as a lie.




3. Give me an example of what you think PM Harper did in Foreign Policy that was bad in your opinion.




4. Try to tone down the childish insults, and act like an adult. If you can't come up with a reasoned response, or a factual example to support your claims, continual name calling only proves your lack of depth on the issue, and that you're just shouting out something you heard somewhere, from someone you think is smarter than you, so you just repeat it as your position on an issue, without knowing anything about it. That just makes you look foolish.
- Doppleganger

isnt your shtick the old cut n paste?

Harper is out next election.


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- C.DeloresTucker

Obama only got re-elected because of all those stupid blacks
- the_cause2000

I agree with Delores , Stephen Harper sucks.

I agree with Delores , Stephen Harper sucks.
- dellio

Elaborate.

Elaborate.
- Doppleganger

nah it's a waste of time. What is the point of argueing about politics everyone has an opinion. Mine is harper sucks and you would probably disagree.

2013 fails alone


Here is PressProgress's countdown of 13 Harper fails of 2013.

13. Global leadership flop

This year marked another dismal performance at the UN climate change conference in Warsaw, where Canada was awarded a special Lifetime Unachievement Fossil Award.

Speaking of the UN, the Conservatives refused to back an international arms trade treaty to keep weapons shipments away from extremists. Worse, they parroted the talking points of the National Firearms Association, citing concern for domestic gun owners, to justify their decision.

And don't forget about Canada's new "economic diplomacy" so all diplomatic assets "are harnessed to support the pursuit of commercial success by Canadian companies and investors."

12. Rebranding Canada

Building on a concerted effort to intertwine conservative values with government icons, the Canadian Museum of Civilization is now the Museum of Canadian History. Its new mandate is to focus on the country's history and identity; promoting a "critical understanding of human cultural achievements and human behaviour" is gone.

This freshly rebranded museum convinced Big Oil to help fund one of the new exhibits, to be called "1867." The million-dollar donation from the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers is the largest ever to the museum, which is not far from the newly rebranded Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway. The scenic route running along the Ottawa River was renamed in 2013 after the Canada's first PM, a Conservative.

11. Cutting off debate

The Conservatives repeatedly used "time allocation" in 2013 to shut down debate in the House of Commons and force an early vote on legislation.

The same instinct was at work when the PMO came up with the idea of an enemies list for new ministers in the summer cabinet shuffle, including bureaucrats "to avoid" and "friend and enemy stakeholders."

The Parliamentary Budget Office wasn't named as an enemy, but Harper neutered that office in 2013. After waiting months to name a successor to the fiercely independent and effective Kevin Page, the office is now a shadow of its former self, reduced to filing access to information requests to get answers from the government to simple questions.

10. Creating low-wage jobs

Between November 2012 and November 2013, all of the net new jobs created in Canada were in the lowest paid and most insecure occupational group: sales and service jobs.

There were just 172,400 new jobs created over this period. But sales and service employment rose by 191,700. These jobs pay an average of just $16.50 per hour, giving the lie to the Harper government's claim that our economy is doing just fine.

Tell that to all the manufacturing workers, with good middle-class wages, who learned in 2013 that their plant would be shutting down.

9. Reopening the abortion debate

The social conservatives in the Conservative Party spent 2013 making sure abortion was back on the Parliamentary agenda.

Conservative MP Mark Warawa got things started with his push to condemn sex-selection abortion, and caucus colleagues Stephen Woodworth and Maurice Vellacott picked up the ball and ran with it.

Their two motions to reopen the abortion debate aren't exactly the same, but the Conservative MPs want a special committee of the House of Commons in 2014 to study the "legal protections" accorded to "children before birth."

So much for Harper's promise not to reopen the abortion debate.

8. Two omnibus budget bills

Harper used to loath these massive bills because, in his words from 1994, they aren't "in the interest of democracy." Now, he's a big fan of them, burying bad ideas in omnibus budget legislation so they don't get debated.

The first in 2013 was 128 pages long. The second ran 322 pages, and included amendments to 50 laws, many that had nothing to do with budget implementation.

7. Failing First Nations

The year began with the historic Idle No More movement and a meeting between chiefs and Harper. Since then, there have been no signs of a new nation-to-nation relationship.

Instead, we've seen the opposite from the Conservatives: refusing to call a public inquiry into 582 missing and murdered aboriginal women, proposing a First Nations education bill that's been panned and pressing ahead with the expansion of the tar sands despite treaty rights and objections of First Nations.

6. Attacking collective bargaining rights

The Conservatives continued their war on workers with dozens of amendments to weaken the Canada Labour Code and the Public Service Labour Relations Act. That's not all.

The government had the back of two backbenchers who are promoting bills (C-377 and C-525) that have one goal: attack unions so they can't fight for fair wages.

5. Abandoning veterans

Soldiers and veterans spent a good chunk of the year raising concerns about inadequate support and shabby treatment by the Canadian military after returning from combat. Then Conservatives announced plans to close nine Veterans Affairs offices throughout the country.

Before year's end, four Afghan veterans took their own lives in the span of a few days, shining the light on how we're failing our men and women in uniform.

4. Not taking safety seriously

It's the government's job to keep people safe. The Conservatives record on rail safety shows they've failed that test.

The deadly runaway train disaster in July carrying crude oil in Lac-Mégantic was a brutal reminder of problems with the system. A few months later, the auditor general's report on rail safety showed longstanding systemic problems with the oversight of Canada's rail system.

The audit found "significant weaknesses" at Transport Canada, including inadequate inspections, poor training for inspectors, weak oversight from management and sloppy record-keeping.

3. Do-nothing on climate change

Environment Minister Leona Aglukkaq is the fifth minister in that portfolio in eight years to promise regulations aimed at curbing climate-warming emissions. 2013 was supposed to be the year, but nope. By year's end, Harper confirmed we'll have to wait a few more years.

Meanwhile, the Conservatives continued to approve the expansion of the tar sands without any plan to reduce climate pollution. This will add to the 250 million litres of liquid toxic waste currently created by the tar sands every day.

2. Deepening democratic deficit

Count' em: four Conservative MPs found themselves in hot water in 2013 over campaign spending. Dean Del Mastro is facing charges, while Peter Penashue resigned after irregularities surfaced. The other two -- Shelley Glover and James Bezan -- are still standing.

If that were all...

The Conservatives continued to stonewall an Elections Canada's voter-suppression investigation, hampered by a weak law that prevents the agency from compelling testimony. This obstructionist approach means only one person was charged in 2013: a low-level party guy named Michael Sona, who maintains his innocence and says he's being scapegoated by the party.

1. PMO cover-up

Harper rode into power with a promise to clean up corruption after the Liberal sponsorship scandal. That narrative crumbled in 2013 when the Prime Minister's Office became the subject of a police investigation after Harper's closest advisors meddled in an internal spending probe in the Senate.

"What began as a secret deal to buy a senator's silence has progressed through several additional layers of deception," National Post columnist Andrew Coyne wrote at the end of the fall parliamentary session. "I may have missed a stage, but I believe we are now at the cover-up of the cover-up of the cover-up

nah it's a waste of time. What is the point of argueing about politics everyone has an opinion. Mine is harper sucks and you would probably disagree.
- dellio

some people need to make a complete ass out of themselves on the internet about their opinions though.

some people need to make a complete ass out of themselves on the internet about their opinions though.
- kicksave856

yup

nah it's a waste of time. What is the point of argueing about politics everyone has an opinion. Mine is harper sucks and you would probably disagree.
- dellio

So I take it you did not like the Proroguing of Parliament?

2013 fails alone


Here is PressProgress's countdown of 13 Harper fails of 2013.


- dellio

I'm shocked that PressProgress, a division of the The Broadbent Institute would find somethings they did not like about the Conservative Party.


The Broadbent Institute is a progressive think tan, founded by the former leader of the federal New Democratic Party Ed Broadbent who was their leader from 1975 to 1989.

Their mission is to "Support, develop, and promote social democratic principles for the 21st century".

I'm shocked that PressProgress, a division of the The Broadbent Institute would find somethings they did not like about the Conservative Party.


The Broadbent Institute is a progressive think tan, founded by the former leader of the federal New Democratic Party Ed Broadbent who was their leader from 1975 to 1989.

Their mission is to "Support, develop, and promote social democratic principles for the 21st century".
- Doppleganger

dont you always quote sun news?

I'm shocked that PressProgress, a division of the The Broadbent Institute would find somethings they did not like about the Conservative Party.


The Broadbent Institute is a progressive think tan, founded by the former leader of the federal New Democratic Party Ed Broadbent who was their leader from 1975 to 1989.

Their mission is to "Support, develop, and promote social democratic principles for the 21st century".
- Doppleganger

The NDP obviously has a magic money tree hidden somewhere to fund all their campaign promises, kind of unfortunate the party died with PornStache Jack.

The NDP obviously has a magic money tree hidden somewhere to fund all their campaign promises, kind of unfortunate the party died with PornStache Jack.
- ShooterMcGavin

Do you mean the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition who was "found buck naked," in a toronto Police raid on a rub-and-tug massage parlour ?

Do you mean the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition who was "found buck naked," in a toronto Police raid on a rub-and-tug massage parlour ?
- Doppleganger

i miss jack so much

why do americans keep electing obama if he is as bad as you say?
- Crimsoninja

I agree with Delores , Stephen Harper sucks.
- dellio

I agree with your agreement.
And doppledumber being a Harper fan boy is just another confirmation.

I agree with your agreement.
And doppledumber being a Harper fan boy is just another confirmation.
- Not_Yan

Have you topped up your TFSA yet this year?

lol harper

lol harper
- Crimsoninja

Have you topped up your TFSA yet this year?
- Doppleganger

Have you topped up your TFSA yet this year?
- Doppleganger

Did I wut my wut