That's the job of the GM. I don't know who will be available. I'm not saying keeping Timonen is a bad move, I just think the $ is high.
- stveshdy

The GM has to go see what's available, but he can't get what's just not there. The dollars are rather high, but as a one year deal it doesn't bother me. I can't imagine going into next season with the same defense corps minus Timonen.

crazy what happens when you get traffic and throw pucks at the net.. want to see it more often instead of working down low to guys on the goal line with horrible angles
- dillpx183

Get the puck to the net even with a wrister.. been a good philosophy for years..

So I would think our GM viewed the deal as worth it then which is why he made it.
- opeth_pa

Have to keep in mind that they're paying him for what he brings off the ice as well.

The GM has to go see what's available, but he can't get what's just not there. The dollars are high, but as a one year deal it doesn't bother me. I can't imagine going into next season with the same defense corps minus Timonen.
- BulliesPhan87

I understand the premises behind it, I just don't like $. Thats just my opinion. I'm not knocking Timonen. Holmgren made the deal, doesn't mean I have to like it.

So we are assuming there is no other option? So lets just sign him for $6M? Once again I'm not the GM so I can't say who will be available but their are always options. The Flyers have traded for Timonen, Coburn, Mez, Schenn, etc. So its not like players can't be had.
- stveshdy

I'm not assuming there's no other option, in fact I just described several possible options.

How do you know that Holmgren hasn't been out kicking tires as far as trades go? It's not as if he's one to sit back and wait, so I really doubt he's not trying to make a move.

Also, looking at the UFA defensemen, Timonen is the best guy available. If he hit the market, he'd likely get the same amount of money, or maybe even slightly more from another team.

You're blaming Holmgren for not exploring his options, without knowing if he has or not, and then you offer no ideas as to options on your own.

The GM has to go see what's available, but he can't get what's just not there. The dollars are high, but as a one year deal it doesn't bother me. I can't imagine going into next season with the same defense corps minus Timonen.
- BulliesPhan87

Not looking to argue, looking for clarity. What makes you say the dollar amount is high?

I understand the premises behind it, I just don't like $. Thats just my opinion. I'm not knocking Timonen. Holmgren made the deal, doesn't mean I have to like it.
- stveshdy

I hear you, sir. Just offering my $.02. I think I'm more worried at the idea of this d corps minus Kimmo than I am at having $6m on the cap, to put it concisely.

Get the puck to the net even with a wrister.. been a good philosophy for years..
- Hextall271

wristers are way better, shot is taken faster so D isnt in as good position, harded for goalie to see you took it, puck usually stays low.

Get the puck to the net even with a wrister.. been a good philosophy for years..
- Hextall271

I love this philosophy.

If the Flyers are going to continue to use Briere on the wing they might as well buy him out in the summer.

Briere is playing awful along thwe walls.. not getting pucks deep, or getting it out.. I don't like him on the wing, but whatevs.,

If the Flyers are going to continue to use Briere on the wing they might as well buy him out in the summer.
- flyer_nutter

LOL..I seem to be watching the same game as you..

The Flyers have been playing very solidly since the hit on McGinn/ensuing PPs

I'm not assuming there's no other option, in fact I just described several possible options.

How do you know that Holmgren hasn't been out kicking tires as far as trades go? It's not as if he's one to sit back and wait, so I really doubt he's not trying to make a move.

Also, looking at the UFA defensemen, Timonen is the best guy available. If he hit the market, he'd likely get the same amount of money, or maybe even slightly more from another team.

You're blaming Holmgren for not exploring his options, without knowing if he has or not, and then you offer no ideas as to options on your own.
- Jsaquella

First, I never said Holmgren didn't explore options. Second you or I have no idea what is going on behind closed doors. What ideas would you like me to throw out there? To just assume he signed him bc he can't get anything else is false as well. I understand why he signed him but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Not looking to argue, looking for clarity. What makes you say the dollar amount is high?
- ggunky

His aging, mostly. He's lost a step, and injuries could become an issue. He'll be the highest paid Flyers skater next season, I believe. It's a lot of cheddar, and I'd like to be sure we can clear space should a true #1 defenseman become available.

Was that Recci

Canes color commentator just said "rex grossman".

First, I never said Holmgren didn't explore options. Second you or I have no idea what is going on behind closed doors. What ideas would you like me to throw out there? To just assume he signed him bc he can't get anything else is false as well. I understand why he signed him but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
- stveshdy

And after three pages, we get it.

His aging, mostly. He's lost a step, and injuries could become an issue. He'll be the highest paid Flyers skater next season, I believe. It's a lot of cheddar, and I'd like to be sure we can clear space should a true #1 defenseman become available.
- BulliesPhan87

I agree.

The Flyers have been playing very solidly since the hit on McGinn/ensuing PPs
- Giroux_Is_God

like the forecheck, cycle, and getting guys and pucks at the net. the couturier line has been outstanding IMO

Canes color commentator just said "rex grossman".
- KGBflyers10

Heard that

These guys aren't too bad. They're listenable, at least. Not like the Panthers....

And after three pages, we get it.
- tangent_man

Thanks.

His aging, mostly. He's lost a step, and injuries could become an issue. He'll be the highest paid Flyers skater next season, I believe. It's a lot of cheddar, and I'd like to be sure we can clear space should a true #1 defenseman become available.
- BulliesPhan87

Thanks sir.

like the forecheck, cycle, and getting guys and pucks at the net. the couturier line has been outstanding IMO
- dillpx183

Agreed. Loved the give and go between G and Nik "Rex" Grossmann too

Cooter has really come alive in the last few games and I think I see Czech and Schenn slowly coming around as well.

LOL..I seem to be watching the same game as you..
- Hextall271

Its frustrating as hell to me. Its been shown over and over again you will get minimal production out of the guy when he is on the wing.

He loses nearly every board battle and cant use his speed.