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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:44 PM ET
I must have watched that clip 100x's last year. he had to get harrased in the locker room after the game.
- Stinkfitz


He apparently went to the Joe Besser School of Pugilism.

Their motto - Stop it...I'll give you such a pinch!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:45 PM ET
McGinn lived, so it was cancelled.
- Flyskippy

Actually, after Tye returned o the game I expected to hear that his game misconduct got rescinded.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
He apparently went to the Joe Besser School of Pugilism.

Their motto - Stop it...I'll give you such a pinch!

- tangent_man


Great, there's a gag that three, maybe four people on the board will get without googling Joe Besser.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Feb 11 @ 1:47 PM ET
How does it matter? Orr's job is to fight. It's likely he won't be the one taking the run at a Flyers star, but will have to fight Shelley because another Leaf did.

How does that settle anything?

- Jsaquella


A quick Youtube search shows that Orr has no problems with taking runs at skill players. I understand his main job is to fight other enforcers, but hitting anything that moves is also part of his job description.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:47 PM ET
Great, there's a gag that three, maybe four people on the board will get without googling Joe Besser.
- Jsaquella


As long as they look it up.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 1:48 PM ET
He apparently went to the Joe Besser School of Pugilism.

Their motto - Stop it...I'll give you such a pinch!

- tangent_man

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:48 PM ET
He apparently went to the Joe Besser School of Pugilism.

Their motto - Stop it...I'll give you such a pinch!

- tangent_man


I feel honored/old that I got, and found this very funny!

Joe Besser aka Stinky!
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:49 PM ET
Orr can take a clean shot at Giroux, hurt him, and not get tagged with a penalty. In scenarios like that, it still deserves a response from the Flyers.
- steelydan


I thought we were all of the mind that a hard, clean check does not call for an immediate fight. Looks, hitting is part of the game. If a star player is in a position to get hit, and a more physical player does it within the rules of the game, why should he have to fight?
Case in point: Brayden Schenn laying that huge hit in Game 3 and getting cross-checked in the throat by Asham. It was a huge, devestating, clean (the call was BS) hit, well within the rules, so why did he have to face retaliation?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:50 PM ET
I feel honored/old that I got, and found this very funny!

Joe Besser aka Stinky!

- PLindbergh31


I knew there were a few of you hanging around, so it wouldn't be lost on everybody.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
Great, there's a gag that three, maybe four people on the board will get without googling Joe Besser.
- Jsaquella


Three Stooges? (did not Google)
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
I knew there were a few of you hanging around, so it wouldn't be lost on everybody.
- tangent_man


The Stooges rule! I wasn't a fan of Joe DeRita though, I must admit.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
exceptional defensive awareness and hockey sense. How do you measure this and how does it differ from the three people I mentionned . Stats are all very similar. Others didn't have Weber as a linemate.
- strongsupporter


Who has been the better player since they've parted ways? Suter or Weber?

If you want to argue small sample size, take a look Weber's stats in games when Suter wasn't available. A stark contrast to games with Suter.

Suter allowed Weber to become an offensive force. He wasn't simply the guy giving him the puck.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
A quick Youtube search shows that Orr has no problems with taking runs at skill players. I understand his main job is to fight other enforcers, but hitting anything that moves is also part of his job description.
- steelydan


It certainly is. Again, how does Shelley stop that? He won't. At best he can fight Orr and take him out of the game for 5 minutes. Far more effective if he knows that if he breathes on Giroux, the crazy little bastard Zac Rinaldo will take a run at Phil Kessel and knock his brain into next month, and then ignore Orr's attempts to fight him.

If Orr has a clean run at Giroux, he's going to take it, Sheelley or not.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:53 PM ET
As long as they look it up.
- tangent_man

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
The Stooges rule! I wasn't a fan of Joe DeRita though, I must admit.
- PLindbergh31


Not a fan of DeRita or Besser, myself.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:56 PM ET
Pacioretty says he got a tetnis shot. I'm sure he's making up the entire story about being bitten.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 1:57 PM ET
Not a fan of DeRita or Besser, myself.
- tangent_man


Besser was probably in a dozen shorts or so. I thought he was pretty funny. Certainly not as good as Curly or Shemp.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:57 PM ET
Three Stooges? (did not Google)
- Scoob


Yeah, and he played Stinky with Abbott and Costello.

*wondering how many will now have to google Abbott and Costello*
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
how about just signing carle at that point w/o leaving us short a puck mover and scorer? we could have always traded a plyr if weber or suter had signed here. why go searching for a puck mover and then trade for a guy w/ a similar skill set to grossmanN? that said, Luke's bad moments have been few so far.
- isaiah520



Look at everything that happened. The Flyers were looking to add a physical defensive defenseman for the future. And they were looking to add a top defenseman in either Suter or Weber, to replace Carle. There is a big picture to consider.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 2:01 PM ET
he didn't have to wait to sign carle and homer had lots of exp trading assets to clear cap space.
- isaiah520



A GM doesn't have to do anything. But he obviously had a plan. It didn't all quite work out. But again, it's easy to sit back and evaluate after the fact.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 2:02 PM ET
No suspension for Grabovski. My apologies for calling it a lock.
- bmeltzer



Bill, 99 times out of a 100. What you said is accurate.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 11 @ 2:03 PM ET
Besser was probably in a dozen shorts or so. I thought he was pretty funny. Certainly not as good as Curly or Shemp.
- PLindbergh31


The one that I keep seeing is 'Horsing Around', where their sister Birdie is reincarnated as a horse. Not bad, but the boys were getting a little long in the tooth at that point.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Feb 11 @ 2:03 PM ET
I thought we were all of the mind that a hard, clean check does not call for an immediate fight. Looks, hitting is part of the game. If a star player is in a position to get hit, and a more physical player does it within the rules of the game, why should he have to fight?
Case in point: Brayden Schenn laying that huge hit in Game 3 and getting cross-checked in the throat by Asham. It was a huge, devestating, clean (the call was BS) hit, well within the rules, so why did he have to face retaliation?

- jmatchett


I'd be willing to say that less than 50% of fans are of that mindset, and I'm sure the percentage of players are much less. The "level-headed" analysts will say that, but it's easy to be level-headed when there is no vested interest.

The fact of the matter is, if Giroux is crushed into the boards via a legal hit and gets knocked out of the game, there is little-to-no-doubt in my mind that someone will retaliate. Legal or not, no team wants to be perceived as a pushover, and that is what will happen if hits go unpunished. Hockey is simply not as cut-and-dry as people want to make it out to be. These are human beings with emotion on the ice and they ultimately have a group-mentality of sticking up for each other, clean or not.

But in my defense, I'm not saying it automatically deserves a fight. It certainly does deserve some sort of response.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
The one that I keep seeing is 'Horsing Around', where their sister Birdie is reincarnated as a horse. Not bad, but the boys were getting a little long in the tooth at that point.
- tangent_man


Yep. Once Larry and Moe went to the "Gentleman's haircuts" (hair slicked back) the Stooges had jumped the shark.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
Yeah, and he played Stinky with Abbott and Costello.

*wondering how many will now have to google Abbott and Costello*

- tangent_man

My family watched A&C, not the Stooges (as much).

Loved Shemp in the third Thin Man movie, though.

"They didn't say you had to be a father they just said you had to have a kid!"
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