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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:33 PM ET
I think it maybe time to blame the gm and not the coach.
- FlyerLifer


You don't blame the GM with the effort level out there tonight.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:34 PM ET
I havent agreed with Lava's line-up decisions a few times this season. However he has tried to reel them in a little and not go on such an offensive focus.

This is on the young kids slumping and the players Holmgren put on the ice.

- flyer_nutter


Jagr, JvR, and Hartnell (lots of goals to replace).

McGinn, Knuble, Fed not really going to make up that production.

Thats why its important for Schenn, Voracek, and Couturier to step up this year. It's still early in the season so will see what happens.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:34 PM ET
I think it maybe time to blame the gm and not the coach.
- FlyerLifer

Blame him for what?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:34 PM ET
Fail for jones... This team is atrocious
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:35 PM ET
Fail for jones... This team is atrocious
- Philly1980


I'll go with "Bail or Barkov" as a backup



http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=50044
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:35 PM ET
Manhandled and outnumbered on the wall all night. This is the first game that has really pissed me off. Just an atrocious effort tonight after a pretty good first period.
- MJL


Definately not getting to the point where I want him traded. Not even close.

However Giroux is driving me insane. Lazy decisions all over the ice. Briere himself needs to step it up.

On a team of young kids that need guidance, and to not be the primary players you look to for offense, #28 and #48 have come up fart too short.

Voracek has been an utter dissapointment. Flashes here and there, but not good enough.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 11 @ 9:36 PM ET
It's sad when you know getting more than one goal in a game is a tough thing for this team. I'd rather take the poopty D and goalie play from last year over this trash.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:36 PM ET
I'll go with "Bail or Barkov" as a backup



http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=50044

- ob18

I don't care who they get... This team needs a good kick in the ass
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:36 PM ET
Jagr, JvR, and Hartnell (lots of goals to replace).

McGinn, Knuble, Fed not really going to make up that production.

Thats why its important for Schenn, Voracek, and Couturier to step up this year. It's still early in the season so will see what happens.

- stveshdy


The thing is, I didnt expect them to be as good this season.

I expected a hell of a lot more from Voracek, Briere and Giroux.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:36 PM ET
Definately not getting to the point where I want him traded. Not even close.

However Giroux is driving me insane. Lazy decisions all over the ice. Briere himself needs to step it up.

On a team of young kids that need guidance, and to not be the primary players you look to for offense, #28 and #48 have come up fart too short.

Voracek has been an utter dissapointment. Flashes here and there, but not good enough.

- flyer_nutter



I agree. Briere and Giroux need to step up. Not good enough.
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:37 PM ET
You can say that again. They miss Hartnell down low big time.
- stveshdy


I want to believe they'd be better with Mezzy and Harts in the lineup but who knows at this point.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:37 PM ET
I don't care who they get... This team needs a good kick in the ass
- Philly1980


That's obvious
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:37 PM ET
The fact that the servers went to garbage is a good thing, i can only imagine the armageddon that would be going on here right now and i'd have to read becuz the panic would be hilarious.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:37 PM ET
Turned the game on late, friggin taxes. please explain how you go 1-3 in the 2nd period with a 5 minute power play and no short handed time? wtf!
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
The fact that the servers went to garbage is a good thing, i can only imagine the armageddon that would be going on here right now and i'd have to read becuz the panic would be hilarious.
- Yosimar89

The servers are actually powered by the Flyers' PP.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
The thing is, I didnt expect them to be as good this season.

I expected a hell of a lot more from Voracek, Briere and Giroux.

- flyer_nutter


Giroux looks lost out on the ice. He looks like a rookie out there. Is he hurt?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
Been a while since I've been this disgusted with a Flyers' performance. Pathetic team D, tons of golden scoring chances missed.

Right or wrong, If this road trip doesn't turn around in a hurry, Lavy won't survive it.

- BringBack25


Which is unfortunate. I think he has tried to make system changes to tone down the offensive attack.

I just dont know what many could do with this group? Maybe you get Schenn, Giroux, Briere and Voracek to wake the hell up. It shouldnt take firing a coach of Lava's caliber to do that.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
I'll go with "Bail or Barkov" as a backup



http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=50044

- ob18

Not another center lol
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:39 PM ET
Blame him for what?
- Giroux_Is_God


Putting a team together that doesn't look very good. I know it's early and they can still make a run. I just don't understand how firing the coach is best solution.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:39 PM ET
Who would have thought after a goal on the first shift it would have resulted in being held to 2 goals or less in 10 of 13 games.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
Not another center lol
- Philly1980

Watch them pick another one
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
Not another center lol
- Philly1980


Why not he's putting up good numbers in the top PRO league in Finland. Can't dismiss him because of position.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
I want to believe they'd be better with Mezzy and Harts in the lineup but who knows at this point.
- FlyerLifer


Those two players are difference makers. Not sure how much better they will be but those two players should upgrade the roster no question.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
I agree. Briere and Giroux need to step up. Not good enough.
- MJL

For once I agree... Especially briere and his giant cap hit... Mr playoffs better become me regular season
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
I agree. Briere and Giroux need to step up. Not good enough.
- MJL


What is your fix?

Obviously I think they just have to ride it out, not much that can be done. I am not impressed with the veterans on this team.

Briere, Coburn, Kimmo, Voracek and Giroux have been sub-par.
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