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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
should've traded for weber's rights at the draft
- Flyers4Life88


They tried too but apparently our offer was lackluster. I honestly don't think Nashville could've justified moving him to their fanbase with out receiving a TON in return including a big name prospect/young player.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
When did the Flyers get replaced by a Special Olympics team? (And I'm sorry to insult Special Olympics hockey...) That was one of the most painful games to watch in a very long time. Inept comes to mind.

Giroux and Briere = inexcusable performance.

And was it Grossman that skated the puck backwards all the way into our zone then gave it away leading to the 4th goal? That was a real gem of a play...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:06 AM ET
I may be off chronologically here, it has been some time, but didnt they offer contracts to both Suter and Parise, prior to the OS?

If that is the case, they lost out big on two guys they thought they were gonna be able to buy, and moved onto plan B.. Weber.

- jak521



I think the Flyers were covering all their basis. I think they were involved in all at the same time.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
July 4, 2012 - Suter & Parise sign with Wild
July 4, 2012 - Carle signs with TB
July 19, 2012 - Flyers sign Weber to OS

My mistake, Weber was plan C.

- NickTheKid87


I believe Carle was still Plan A.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
I think the Flyers were covering all their basis. I think they were involved in all at the same time.
- MJL

So you think that the Flyers believed they were going to be able to get Weber one way or another, yet still went after Parise and Suter as well?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
I believe Carle was still Plan A.
- bradleyc4


Possibly but at this point...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
I believe Carle was still Plan A.
- bradleyc4

The others were just a case of the Flyers seeing what was out there?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:09 AM ET
When did the Flyers get replaced by a Special Olympics team? (And I'm sorry to insult Special Olympics hockey...) That was one of the most painful games to watch in a very long time. Inept comes to mind.

Giroux and Briere = inexcusable performance.

And was it Grossman that skated the puck backwards all the way into our zone then gave it away leading to the 4th goal? That was a real gem of a play...

- wolfhounds

Cobhorn has been terrible.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:11 AM ET
The others were just a case of the Flyers seeing what was out there?
- jak521


I think they knew at some point Carle wasn't coming back and made their other offers to guys like Suter and Weber, to try to replace him.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
They tried too but apparently our offer was lackluster. I honestly don't think Nashville could've justified moving him to their fanbase with out receiving a TON in return including a big name prospect/young player.
- NickTheKid87


but we were willing to give up 4 consecutive 1st round picks as offer sheet compensation? i dont get it, i think the trade wouldve costed less than 4 1st round picks
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
When did the Flyers get replaced by a Special Olympics team? (And I'm sorry to insult Special Olympics hockey...) That was one of the most painful games to watch in a very long time. Inept comes to mind.

Giroux and Briere = inexcusable performance.

And was it Grossman that skated the puck backwards all the way into our zone then gave it away leading to the 4th goal? That was a real gem of a play...

- wolfhounds


briere was firing saucer passes at scrivens....lol
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Cobhorn has been terrible.
- jak521


how is he not a -30 blows my mind
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:16 AM ET
but we were willing to give up 4 consecutive 1st round picks as offer sheet compensation? i dont get it, i think the trade wouldve costed less than 4 1st round picks
- Flyers4Life88


That's irrelevant (besides they'd be picks in the late 20s). What I'm saying is that Nashville would have needed a big time prospect in return for marketing and PR purposes. I don't feel that Couturier even fits that bill. I firmly believe he'll be a great player but not the kind that entices fans to watch. If they could've gotten something like the 1st overall pick from EDM or Hall, RNH or Eberle, then maybe we see Weber traded. Just my opinion.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:17 AM ET
That's irrelevant (besides they'd be picks in the late 20s). What I'm saying is that Nashville would have needed a big time prospect in return for marketing and PR purposes. I don't feel that Couturier even fits that bill. I firmly believe he'll be a great player but not the kind that entices fans to watch. If they could've gotten the something like the 1st overall pick from EDM or Hall, RNH or Eberle, than maybe we see Weber traded. Just my opinion.
- NickTheKid87


draft picks in the 20s? dude giroux, richards...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
Doesn't matter who wanted more. It matters what the market is. Just throwing names like wanting Kadri is playing fantasy Hockey. That's overvaluing JVR. And not thinking the Flyers got enough, is undervaluing Luke Schenn in my opinion.
- MJL

that's about it and its no better than mine...just different sometimes.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
draft picks in the 20s? dude giroux, richards...
- Flyers4Life88


That was all luck dude. Most late 20s picks don't get that good.
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
That was all luck dude. Most late 20s picks don't get that good.
- NickTheKid87


LOL cmtfu....
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
That was all luck dude. Most late 20s picks don't get that good.
- NickTheKid87



It's unpredictable. Weber himself was a 2nd round 49th overall pick. But most teams are not going to take gamble like that.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 12 @ 11:23 AM ET
That was all luck dude. Most late 20s picks don't get that good.
- NickTheKid87


maybe not all, but yeah they definitely had some things go their way in 98, 00, 03, 06
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
maybe not all, but yeah they definitely had some things go their way in 98, 00, 03, 06
- OrangeBlack27


See-moan Gon-yay!
Flyers4Life88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.07.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
maybe not all, but yeah they definitely had some things go their way in 98, 00, 03, 06
- OrangeBlack27


The Philadelphia Flyers' first-round pick went to the Washington Capitals as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent Steve Eminger and the 84th-overall pick to Philadelphia in exchange for this pick. WSH drafted john carlson.....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
on July 1, they still could have signed carle, but they obvi went in a diff direction.
- isaiah520


If they had signed Carle, the pursuit of Suter & Parise ends.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
So you think that the Flyers believed they were going to be able to get Weber one way or another, yet still went after Parise and Suter as well?
- jak521



I beleive they wanted to have more then one option in play.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
See-moan Gon-yay!
- johndewar


and justin williams and richards and sanguinetti (oh dammit, rangers--nevermind)...what's his name? oh, giroux.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
The Philadelphia Flyers' first-round pick went to the Washington Capitals as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent Steve Eminger and the 84th-overall pick to Philadelphia in exchange for this pick. WSH drafted john carlson.....
- Flyers4Life88


They did use a 1st rounder that year on defenseman Luca Sbisa.
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