that's about it and its no better than mine...just different sometimes.
- isaiah520

I think it's pretty obvious in watching Luke Schenn play, what his potential is. As well as knowing how important that type of player is, in building a top team.

They did use a 1st rounder that year on defenseman Luca Sbisa.
- Jsaquella

only cause nashville took pickard.

shame it wasn't MDZ or eberle, but you can do that sort of second-guessing all day.

edit: knew pickard turned out to be not much, but didn't realize he had played his way out of north america. his younger brother is playing alright for colorado's AHL team this year, though.

Red hot mess...
Bill said it best.

You can hide one of Gervais and Foster at the six spot for under 15 minutes a game.
But to have both in the line up at the same time, it is going to hurt.

Gervais is dragging down Coburn's level of play, and the #8/#3 pairing is good for a Keystone Kops near disaster every game.

When Mez gets back and IF he can play at a high level, this team should be dramatically improved.

Coburn really benefitted from his paring with Kimmo the last few years, and he had something good going with Grossmann last season.

Bryz has been bailing them out, but he looks a bit tired and his play has come back to earth lately.

Tonight we get watch Wheeler and Kane streak down the wings around the defenseman. I hope they all get their angles and positions figured out, because if the D try to cheat towards the wrong side or pinch at the wrong times it will be ugly.

and justin williams and richards and sanguinetti (oh dammit, rangers--nevermind)...what's his name? oh, giroux.
- OrangeBlack27

I think I audibly LOL'd when I heard Bobby Sanguinetti's name over the PA at the Flyers game last Saturday. I hope his parents weren't around.

I had no idea he landed with Carolina.

They did use a 1st rounder that year on defenseman Luca Sbisa.
- Jsaquella

shouldve taken MDZ...

Red hot mess...
Bill said it best.

You can hide one of Gervais and Foster at the six spot for under 15 minutes a game.
But to have both in the line up at the same time, it is going to hurt.

Gervais is dragging down Coburn's level of play, and the #8/#3 pairing is good for a Keystone Kops near disaster every game.

When Mez gets back and IF he can play at a high level, this team should be dramatically improved.

Coburn really benefitted from his paring with Kimmo the last few years, and he had something good going with Grossmann last season.

Bryz has been bailing them out, but he looks a bit tired and his play has come back to earth lately.

Tonight we get watch Wheeler and Kane streak down the wings around the defenseman. I hope they all get their angles and positions figured out, because if the D try to cheat towards the wrong side or pinch at the wrong times it will be ugly.
- Marc D

I think more then anything. Coburn is dragging down Coburn's level of play.

shouldve taken MDZ...
- Flyers4Life88

Actually, Sbisa is turning out quite nicely in Anaheim, and is probably a better all around defenseman.

Red hot mess...
Bill said it best.

You can hide one of Gervais and Foster at the six spot for under 15 minutes a game.
But to have both in the line up at the same time, it is going to hurt.

Gervais is dragging down Coburn's level of play, and the #8/#3 pairing is good for a Keystone Kops near disaster every game.

When Mez gets back and IF he can play at a high level, this team should be dramatically improved.

Coburn really benefitted from his paring with Kimmo the last few years, and he had something good going with Grossmann last season.

Bryz has been bailing them out, but he looks a bit tired and his play has come back to earth lately.

Tonight we get watch Wheeler and Kane streak down the wings around the defenseman. I hope they all get their angles and positions figured out, because if the D try to cheat towards the wrong side or pinch at the wrong times it will be ugly.
- Marc D

thats a big if IMO...achillies, bad back, now a shoulder...injuries keep adding up like this his future begins to look worse and worse

Actually, Sbisa is turning out quite nicely in Anaheim, and is probably a better all around defenseman.
- Jsaquella

havent heard much, good to hear, isnt he an Italian

havent heard much, good to hear, isnt he an Italian
- Flyers4Life88

in his blood, clearly, but he's a swiss national player.

Actually, Sbisa is turning out quite nicely in Anaheim, and is probably a better all around defenseman.
- Jsaquella

eh, i'ma take MDZ.

http://www.tshirthell.com...tion=&stype=&is_fivestar=

you can this in penguins, all you parents out there

I think more then anything. Coburn is dragging down Coburn's level of play.
- MJL

There is that side of it too.
I do think he benefits from playing next to a Kimmo or Grossmann.

A little off the subject,
another thing I liked about Matt Carle was he was effective even when paired with a rookie like Bourdon last year.

and justin williams and richards and sanguinetti (oh dammit, rangers--nevermind)...what's his name? oh, giroux.
- OrangeBlack27

2003 and 2006, not some of best work.

eh, i'ma take MDZ.
- OrangeBlack27

the john carlson thing was hilarious i thought, for steve eminger of all people...can you say BUST

There is that side of it too.
I do think he benefits from playing next to a Kimmo or Grossmann.

A little off the subject,
another thing I liked about Matt Carle was he was effective even when paired with a rookie like Bourdon last year.
- Marc D

hb kimmo this year, with all this talk about a slow start to a shortened season, 8 pts plus 3 when the team has a losing record... he is simply the man

LOL cmtfu....
- Flyers4Life88

Look at the top players in the world over the past few years:

2000 Draft Top 10: Heatley, Gaborik
Picks 20-30: Ott, Boyes, Volchenkov, Williams, Kronwall

2001 Top 10: Kovalchuk, Spezza, Weiss, Koivu
20-30: Goc, Gleason, Armstrong, Steckel

2002 Top 10: Nash, Lehtonen, Bouwmeester, Pitkanen, Whitney, Lupul
20-30: Paille, Bergenheim, Eager, Ward

2003 Top 10: Fleury, Staal, Horton, Vanek, Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf
20-30: Burns, Kesler, Richards, Boyle, Perry

2004 Top 10: Ovechkin, Malkin, Ladd, Wheeler
20-30: Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros, Schneider, Schultz, Green

2005 Top 10: Crosby, Ryan, Johnson, Price, Setoguchi
20-30: Rask, Oshie, Cogliano, Niskanen, Downie

2006 Top 10: Johnson, Staal, Toews, Backstrom, Kessel, Okposo, Mueller, Frolik
20-30: Giroux, Berglund, Foligno

2007 Top 10: Kane, JVR, Turris, Alzner, Gagner, Voracek, Couture
20-30: Pacioretty, Blum, Backlund, Perron, Smith

2008 Top 10: Stamkos, Doughty, Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Schenn, Hodgson
20-30: Del Zotto, Eberle, Ennis, Carlson

2009 Top 10: Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, Kane, Schenn, OEL, Kadri
20-30: Johansson, Caron, Despres

Top 10 picks are far more certain than 20-30. Giroux, Eberle, Rask are exceptions to the rule.

Red hot mess...
Bill said it best.

You can hide one of Gervais and Foster at the six spot for under 15 minutes a game.
But to have both in the line up at the same time, it is going to hurt.

Gervais is dragging down Coburn's level of play, and the #8/#3 pairing is good for a Keystone Kops near disaster every game.

When Mez gets back and IF he can play at a high level, this team should be dramatically improved.

Coburn really benefitted from his paring with Kimmo the last few years, and he had something good going with Grossmann last season.

Bryz has been bailing them out, but he looks a bit tired and his play has come back to earth lately.

Tonight we get watch Wheeler and Kane streak down the wings around the defenseman. I hope they all get their angles and positions figured out, because if the D try to cheat towards the wrong side or pinch at the wrong times it will be ugly.
- Marc D

Need some offense as well. Can't score 1 goal and expect to win many games.

And Giroux needs to relax a bit on the PP...he looks so uncomfortable on that left point/slot position it makes me cringe. The classic 'gripping his stick way too tight', and then makes a horrid pass or 12.

Oh, and can we rent a faceoff specialist or something?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm

the john carlson thing was hilarious i thought, for steve eminger of all people...can you say BUST
- Flyers4Life88

Bust i agree with but still has a job.

hb kimmo this year, with all this talk about a slow start to a shortened season, 8 pts plus 3 when the team has a losing record... he is simply the man
- Flyers4Life88

Getting him re signed for next season was a great move.

Everyone hates the price, but it was very important.

Need some offense as well. Can't score 1 goal and expect to win many games.

And Giroux needs to relax a bit on the PP...he looks so uncomfortable on that left point/slot position it makes me cringe. The classic 'gripping his stick way too tight', and then makes a horrid pass or 12.

Oh, and can we rent a faceoff specialist or something?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm
- wolfhounds

JVR looked good on faceoffs last night. He won i think three pretty clean.

the john carlson thing was hilarious i thought, for steve eminger of all people...can you say BUST
- Flyers4Life88

well, yeah. sucks that that picked turned out to be carlson but if the caps chose, say, daulton leveille, no one would remember.

Need some offense as well. Can't score 1 goal and expect to win many games.

And Giroux needs to relax a bit on the PP...he looks so uncomfortable on that left point/slot position it makes me cringe. The classic 'gripping his stick way too tight', and then makes a horrid pass or 12.

Oh, and can we rent a faceoff specialist or something?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm
- wolfhounds

no doubt

losing Couts last night seemed to throw them all out of whack

not sure what is up with Giroux so far, I hope he bounces back soon

I don't think having Briere on his wing is optimum, but not sure what to do with Briere

when Homer traded Carter and Richards one thing he said they wanted was a better balance of wingers/centers

trading Briere for a scoring top 6 winger makes sense but not sure that is a deal that other teams would go for and that Danny would go for

he is a clutch scorer in the big moments of games and play offs, but when he doesn't score he looks really out of place on the wing

Look at the top players in the world over the past few years:

2000 Draft Top 10: Heatley, Gaborik
Picks 20-30: Ott, Boyes, Volchenkov, Williams, Kronwall

2001 Top 10: Kovalchuk, Spezza, Weiss, Koivu
20-30: Goc, Gleason, Armstrong, Steckel

2002 Top 10: Nash, Lehtonen, Bouwmeester, Pitkanen, Whitney, Lupul
20-30: Paille, Bergenheim, Eager, Ward

2003 Top 10: Fleury, Staal, Horton, Vanek, Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf
20-30: Burns, Kesler, Richards, Boyle, Perry

2004 Top 10: Ovechkin, Malkin, Ladd, Wheeler
20-30: Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros, Schneider, Schultz, Green

2005 Top 10: Crosby, Ryan, Johnson, Price, Setoguchi
20-30: Rask, Oshie, Cogliano, Niskanen, Downie

2006 Top 10: Johnson, Staal, Toews, Backstrom, Kessel, Okposo, Mueller, Frolik
20-30: Giroux, Berglund, Foligno

2007 Top 10: Kane, JVR, Turris, Alzner, Gagner, Voracek, Couture
20-30: Pacioretty, Blum, Backlund, Perron, Smith

2008 Top 10: Stamkos, Doughty, Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Schenn, Hodgson
20-30: Del Zotto, Eberle, Ennis, Carlson

2009 Top 10: Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, Kane, Schenn, OEL, Kadri
20-30: Johansson, Caron, Despres

Top 10 picks are far more certain than 20-30. Giroux, Eberle, Rask are exceptions to the rule.
- NickTheKid87

they are more certain...however that does not negate the fact that they are still indeed valuable and coveted. Giving them up via offer sheet is a move i still dont understand.

With the way Giroux is playing right now, do you think it matters who's lining up next to him?

When they traded JVR for Schenn, they had a surplus of forwards, which they did, and they wanted to get some youth on the blueline. When the trade was made, Carle, Suter and Weber were all still options, Carle being the most realistic and I think we all expected him to get re-signed. It's easy to criticize the trade when the team struggles but how many games have Schenn & JVR played on their new teams? It's far too early to say who won or lost and, quite frankly, it doesn't really matter.
- NickTheKid87

You can't be serious. You are seeing the end results of last summer right now. If what I have posted was dead wrong, we would be having a better seasons as we speak.