"You don't understand. Terry and his family want to win more than anybody."

-Ted Black
- buffalofan19

want verb \ˈwȯnt also ˈwänt & ˈwənt\
Definition of WANT
intransitive verb
1: to be needy or destitute
2: to have or feel need
3: to be necessary or needed
4: to desire to come, go, or be

Definition of DESIRE
transitive verb
1: to long or hope for : exhibit or feel desire for
2a : to express a wish for : request

they need to have more than want... all want does is make you look at the winner with googly eyes.

Friday...female doges

Its time for TPEG to swoop in and haul Lindy and Darcy out the door.
- 7xTippet

I'm here.

Friday...female doges
- glove_was_stuck

Yea and.........whats your point.

"We have 2 of the top 20 centers in the league".

I'm here.
- TerryPegs

Start Swoopin.

want verb \ˈwȯnt also ˈwänt & ˈwənt\
Definition of WANT
intransitive verb
1: to be needy or destitute
2: to have or feel need
3: to be necessary or needed
4: to desire to come, go, or be

Definition of DESIRE
transitive verb
1: to long or hope for : exhibit or feel desire for
2a : to express a wish for : request

they need to have more than want... all want does is make you look at the winner with googly eyes.
- IndianaSabresFan

I don't doubt he has the desire to win. It's the "knowing how to win" that he seriously lacks.

Start Swoopin.
- LamontSanford

Why?
The fans still keep coming.

I don't doubt he has the desire to win. It's the "knowing how to win" that he seriously lacks.
- buffalofan19

he is a smart man (i assume).. he should have the knowledge to know when he needs help and have someone on his staff that does.. does he do his own taxes or does he hire a professional?

If you had that professional doing your taxes for two years in a row and you got audited both of them and found out he was doing it wrong woudl you continue to use that same person to do your taxes or would you get someone else?

Why?
The fans still keep coming.






- TerryPegs

I'm freezing your assets until the "boys" get the boot

"We have 2 of the top 20 centers in the league".
- SABRES 89

they are both gone.. i bet we could get Timmy for pretty little if we wanted him back

"We have 2 of the top 20 centers in the league".
- SABRES 89

Do you think we will get a "fresh start" soon?

they are both gone.. i bet we could get Timmy for pretty little if we wanted him back
- IndianaSabresFan

Timmy doesn't want to play with losers

"We have 2 of the top 20 centers in the league".
- SABRES 89

i was gonna say something about this, not to troll, but really.....

crosby
malkin
stamkos
toews
spezza
bergeron
b. richards
RNH
e. staal
j. staal
getzlaf
thornton
tavares
datsyuk
benn
sedin
kopitar
m. koivu
plekanec
backstrom
backes
kesler
etc
etc

i'm sure i could keep going. i'm not sure how you fit two sabres centers into the top 20 in the league......MAYBE hodgson squeaks in, but i think his point totals have a lot to do with him riding vaneks coat tails. he's gonna be a really good player, but i HIGHLY doubt he's in the top 20 yet.

i was gonna say something about this, not to troll, but really.....

crosby
malkin
stamkos
toews
spezza
bergeron
b. richards
RNH
e. staal
j. staal
getzlaf
thornton
tavares
datsyuk
benn
sedin
kopitar
m. koivu
plekanec
backstrom
backes
kesler
etc
etc

i'm sure i could keep going. i'm not sure how you fit two sabres centers into the top 20 in the league......MAYBE hodgson squeaks in, but i think his point totals have a lot to do with him riding vaneks coat tails. he's gonna be a really good player, but i HIGHLY doubt he's in the top 20 yet.
- sensarmy_11

This was a joke going back to when Darcy said Connolly and Roy were in the top 20 of centers.

i was gonna say something about this, not to troll, but really.....

crosby
malkin
stamkos
toews
spezza
bergeron
b. richards
RNH
e. staal
j. staal
getzlaf
thornton
tavares
datsyuk
benn
sedin
kopitar
m. koivu
plekanec
backstrom
backes
kesler
etc
etc

i'm sure i could keep going. i'm not sure how you fit two sabres centers into the top 20 in the league......MAYBE hodgson squeaks in, but i think his point totals have a lot to do with him riding vaneks coat tails. he's gonna be a really good player, but i HIGHLY doubt he's in the top 20 yet.
- sensarmy_11

This was a joke going back to when Darcy said Connolly and Roy were in the top 20 of centers.
- buffalokb

oh, my bad then. sorry.

i saw someone mention it earlier in the thread, and thought he was quoting that guy.

Sorry, but down 2 with 2 minutes left, and you put Hecht and Kaleta out there because it is a penalty kill??? Come on.

And why move Vanek away from Hodgson and Pommer? The line was working, and now, because the other lines are not, you break it up and put line killing Stafford with 19/29 and Vanek with two puck carriers 63/82??? Come on.

Lindy has clearly lost any ability to manipulate his lineup, let alone motivate his players.

So, there really are a limited set of options.

1. Fire Lindy Ruff.
2. Start the fire sale and get rid of these players that no longer respond, or never have responded, to their coach.

Personally, I like option 2 more than option 1.

Let's take Tyler Myers as an example. Is his recent struggle a coaching issue, or a player issue? Lindy was his coach during his Calder Trophy season, so has his coaching really caused the problem? What really is the difference between Tyler Myers then and Tyler Myers now? You may want to ask Tyler Myers.

How about Drew Stafford? His best season was a contract year (go figure), and other than that he has never eclipsed 20 goals. Is it the coach's responsibility to have him perform his best outside a contract year when he has never shown the ability to take that responsibility on his own?

i was gonna say something about this, not to troll, but really.....

crosby
malkin
stamkos
toews
spezza
bergeron
b. richards
RNH
e. staal
j. staal
getzlaf
thornton
tavares
datsyuk
benn
sedin
kopitar
m. koivu
plekanec
backstrom
backes
kesler
etc
etc

i'm sure i could keep going. i'm not sure how you fit two sabres centers into the top 20 in the league......MAYBE hodgson squeaks in, but i think his point totals have a lot to do with him riding vaneks coat tails. he's gonna be a really good player, but i HIGHLY doubt he's in the top 20 yet.
- sensarmy_11

local self deprecating humor is lost on you. nice list though

i was gonna say something about this, not to troll, but really.....

crosby
malkin
stamkos
toews
spezza
bergeron
b. richards
RNH
e. staal
j. staal
getzlaf
thornton
tavares
datsyuk
benn
sedin
kopitar
m. koivu
plekanec
backstrom
backes
kesler
etc
etc

i'm sure i could keep going. i'm not sure how you fit two sabres centers into the top 20 in the league......MAYBE hodgson squeaks in, but i think his point totals have a lot to do with him riding vaneks coat tails. he's gonna be a really good player, but i HIGHLY doubt he's in the top 20 yet.
- sensarmy_11

however i do take exception to this- hodgson is def better than etc AND etc IMHO...

local self deprecating humor is lost on you. nice list though

- battelmt

well you never know, according to garth, grigorenko is the greatest player and athlete in the history human civilization, and hodgson has put up some decent numbers.

it's not totally unrealistic to think that someone might actually try to place them in the top 20.......it would need to be one GIANT homer, but it's not unrealistic.

however i do take exception to this- hodgson is def better than etc AND etc IMHO...
- battelmt

maybe better than Etc #2, but Etc #1 has been tearing up the league.

This was a joke going back to when Darcy said Connolly and Roy were in the top 20 of centers.
- buffalokb

ahh the good ole days. Day after Day how good our Centers were barf

maybe better than Etc #2, but Etc #1 has been tearing up the league.
- sensarmy_11

not to stir the pot but why no couture on the list ?

Friday...female doges
- glove_was_stuck

Kinda hoping the embarrassment continues.