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GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
Call me crazy, but I don't see a team getting blown up. Holmgren realizes he's got a lot of good young pieces and let's face it, if Giroux was playing at 90% of what he was last season, they're in much better shape.

They're on the playoff fence getting very little from Giroux and almost nothing from Hartnell.

- Jsaquella


They aren't getting I anything from Hartnell
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
poop happens. Have to play with what you have. Players need to step up its that simple. Timonen is ONE player, it takes a team to win.
- stveshdy


Thus far they haven't played much like a team.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:24 PM ET
Thus far they haven't played much like a team.
- Jsaquella


I agree. So will find out tonight if its any worse with Timonen out.

Obviously the Flyers would love to have him in the lineup but in reality they dont. Team still needs to go out an play hockey either way.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:25 PM ET
Thus far they haven't played much like a team.
- Jsaquella


Last year they were a team, not really this year. The injuries don't help. The lines keep getting switched. There needs to be more stability and things would probably get better.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 16 @ 5:26 PM ET
I'd be a lot more happy about I if he was replacing Kurtis Foster instead of Kimmo Timonen
- Jsaquella



It would be so awesome if we could transfer Foster's shot to Kimmo.
Clone Kimmo's brain and insert it in Coburn's head.
Generate new ligaments and tendons from stem cells for Mez.

One day science will save our D
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:26 PM ET
Last year they were a team, not really this year. The injuries don't help. The lines keep getting switched. There needs to be more stability and things would probably get better.
- LJF


Absolutely, the injuries don't help at all.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:27 PM ET
Depending on how long Timonen is out, I am gravely concerned about the blueline group (and calling up Gustafsson doesn't alleviate that much, if at all).

Tonight's projected starting D would be fine for the DEL; in the NHL, it looks like something the Flyers might have had to had to use in the early 1990s. Just swap the names Yves Racine, Corey Foster and Ric Nattress for Bruno Gervais, Kurtis Foster and Andreas Lilja.

- bmeltzer

This is eerie. I'm late coming to this party, but after reading your article I was thinking that this must have been what it was like to follow the Flyers the year I was away at college: 1990-91.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:27 PM ET
It would be so awesome if we could transfer Foster's shot to Kimmo.
Clone Kimmo's brain and insert it in Coburn's head.
Generate new ligaments and tendons from stem cells for Mez.

One day science will save our D

- Chris48


You can do everything you said on NHL13
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
Call me crazy, but I don't see a team getting blown up. Holmgren realizes he's got a lot of good young pieces and let's face it, if Giroux was playing at 90% of what he was last season, they're in much better shape.

They're on the playoff fence getting very little from Giroux and almost nothing from Hartnell.

- Jsaquella


I agree completely. Now if we have a mostly healthy lineup and don't improve at all, I can see some changes at that point. As I said earlier, I would like to see us get into a playoff spot by the TDL and see what moves Homer can make.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
Absolutely, the injuries don't help at all.
- Jsaquella


Flyers
+ Meszy
+ Hartnell
+ ????

= Playoffs

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:29 PM ET
It would be so awesome if we could transfer Foster's shot to Kimmo.
Clone Kimmo's brain and insert it in Coburn's head.
Generate new ligaments and tendons from stem cells for Mez.

One day science will save our D

- Chris48


It woul help if guys simply played up to their abilities. The offense has been to blame for a good portion of the defensive woes.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:29 PM ET
I agree completely. Now if we have a mostly healthy lineup and don't improve at all, I can see some changes at that point. As I said earlier, I would like to see us get into a playoff spot by the TDL and see what moves Homer can make.
- Hextall271

Hear, hear! I really hope to see this again in April:

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:30 PM ET
Flyers
+ Meszy
+ Hartnell
+ ????

= Playoffs


- Flyskippy


It'd be nice to have Pronger, too
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:30 PM ET
It woul help if guys simply played up to their abilities. The offense has been to blame for a good portion of the defensive woes.
- Jsaquella


That's just it. The forwards are not getting good results in all three zones and neither are the D. There is sporadic success, but that's the problem - it's too sporadic.

Bryz has given them a chance to win in just about every game.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
Hear, hear! I really hope to see this again in April:


- Flyskippy


You got a few games saved on your DVR?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
It'd be nice to have Pronger, too
- Jsaquella



I hate the Leafs so much for that.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
You got a few games saved on your DVR?
- Jsaquella

Winter Classic. I get a good 5 minutes of Jags.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
That's just it. The forwards are not getting good results in all three zones and neither are the D. There is sporadic success, but that's the problem - it's too sporadic.
Bryz has given them a chance to win in just about every game.

- Flyskippy


When do you think that will change?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
Winter Classic. I get a good 5 minutes of Jags.
- Flyskippy


And a salute by Mike Rupp
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:33 PM ET
When do you think that will change?
- stveshdy


I can't answer that. They looked a lot better after the third game, but there's still too much simple execution not being made. Passes are better than they were the first 10 games, but clears are still horrendous at times.

I hope it changes tonight - and that the change becomes the new "standard" and not the exception.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
And a salute by Mike Rupp
- Jsaquella


Still can't believe he did that. Score two goals, I mean. Would've thought he would be acquired this past offseason for that alone.

Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
It woul help if guys simply played up to their abilities. The offense has been to blame for a good portion of the defensive woes.
- Jsaquella


True

Defense hasn't been helping either in generating offense... A good first pass and a cohesive breakout does a lot for a team. But if you don't have the personnel or skill it's hard to adjust
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
I can't answer that. They looked a lot better after the third game, but there's still too much simple execution not being made. Passes are better than they were the first 10 games, but clears are still horrendous at times.

I hope it changes tonight - and that the change becomes the new "standard" and not the exception.

- Flyskippy


I hope your right. Going to be a tough game tonight in Montreal but atleast help is on its way...

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
I'd put it about 50-50.
- bmeltzer


That Lavi stays or goes?



If he does leave, please no more retreads. Get a fresh face with a new approach. Cut the dinosaurs loose and draft/acquire for speed. Bring in more lean hungry kids and make it exciting again.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:36 PM ET
I hope your right. Going to be a tough game tonight in Montreal but atleast help is on its way...


- stveshdy

Love, love, love Gusty. I really hope he blossoms into something more than what has been projected and will probably happen: 3rd pairing Dman.
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