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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
Subban is not leading his team defensively.
- MJL


He and Josh Gorges were their #1 PK unit last year, and both played the toughest minutes even strength.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
At this point in his career. Subban is not a #1. He's not even the best defenseman on his team. There aren't that many true #1 defenseman in the League.
- MJL


you take markov over subban right now, i take it?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
One thing for sure. McGinn does not deserve to be sat. Perhaps he's a little banged up and they just want him to take a breather. He's taken some hard hits lately.
- MJL


Who is taken his spot?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
only because therrien is a mongoloid.
- OrangeBlack27


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
only because therrien is a mongoloid.
- OrangeBlack27


Therrien is a very good Coach who knows defense. Subban is utlra talented and very good with the puck. But he has not reached the status of a shut down defender, nor is he out of this World offensively, such as a player like Karlsson is to reach #1 status. He may get there in the future, but not yet.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
you take markov over subban right now, i take it?
- OrangeBlack27

Hell no.

Markov gets hurt too much and is much older. Subban will be a stud before its all said and done.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Feb 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
Who is taken his spot?
- stveshdy


Tweets says Sestito and Harry Z are playing over Mcginn. Do not like.....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
you take markov over subban right now, i take it?
- OrangeBlack27


If I was building a team, no. I'd take Subban for the future. But right now, Markov is a better overall player.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
Like I asked previously that you haven't answered. Tell me who that #1 defenseman is that we can trade Couturier for, and we'll talk.
- MJL

Subban voynov oel myers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
Tweets says Sestito and Harry Z are playing over Mcginn. Do not like.....
- steelydan


There is only one reasonable explanation why either of those two players are playing over McGinn.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
Subban voynov oel myers
- SMS4016


I like every player on that list and none will be available.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
Statement recap, please.
- Flyskippy

Talk is cheap, words are wind, the Isles are no longer an easy win, and its always sunny in Philadelphia!
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
One thing for sure. McGinn does not deserve to be sat. Perhaps he's a little banged up and they just want him to take a breather. He's taken some hard hits lately.
- MJL


very possible
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
Subban voynov oel myers
- SMS4016


So you're just going to play fantasy Hockey and pick names out of a hat. None of them are current #1 defenseman. All young and very talented who may get there in the future. But not now.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
If I was building a team, no. I'd take Subban for the future. But right now, Markov is a better overall player.
- MJL


of course. that's what i assumed you meant.

regarding subban not being great defensively, as brad said, he was matched up against the opposition's #1 line last year, started most of his shifts in the defensive zone and the habs still had more scoring chances when he was on the ice than when he was off of it.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
There is only one reasonable explanation why either of those two players are playing over McGinn.
- MJL



It's the Herpes isn't it?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
of course. that's what i assumed you meant.

regarding subban not being great defensively, as brad said, he was matched up against the opposition's #1 line last year, started most of his shifts in the defensive zone and the habs still had more scoring chances when he was on the ice than when he was off of it.

- OrangeBlack27


I love Subban. The kid is a beast. He will continue to get better and will be special no doubt about it.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
Tweets says Sestito and Harry Z are playing over Mcginn. Do not like.....
- steelydan



are we playing 13 forwards?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 1:03 PM ET


It's the Herpes isn't it?

- mayorofangrytown


No. His pet iguana got loose and he had to rush home. You're all about the drama these days, sir, and I, for one, am stunned.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
of course. that's what i assumed you meant.

regarding subban not being great defensively, as brad said, he was matched up against the opposition's #1 line last year, started most of his shifts in the defensive zone and the habs still had more scoring chances when he was on the ice than when he was off of it.

- OrangeBlack27


He is a very good player with the puck. But he's not a true #1 yet in my opinion. maybe in the future, but I'm not convinced.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
are we playing 13 forwards?
- Don'tForgetTocchet


No Sestito today
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
No Sestito today
- bradleyc4



BUT WHAT ABOUT TWITTER


god i hate twitter

my bank wants me to "follow" them

why would anyone do that
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
No one.
Teams don't move #1 defenseman. If a cash strapped franchise like Nashville can match and keep Weber, the chance of any other team moving a guy like that is nil!

- BiggE

Agreed but teams with d in their system move them for centers like coots. That's my point throw in picks or prospects I don't care #1 d and goalie most important position Philly fans have been programmer to think centers are the most important. Their not. WhatFrustrates me most is clarke and homer played with parent. It was parent and strong d that backbones those cups but these 2 idiots keep trying this offense offense offense.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
Talk is cheap, words are wind, the Isles are no longer an easy win, and its always sunny in Philadelphia!
- Marc D

That's your recap?

You haven't been reading correctly! Not once did you mention Couturier's potential and the fact that we can't trade him because of his potential for either an All Star Defenseman or a young Defenseman with potential. This is the word. This... is the law.

So say we all.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
How come I get a feeling that they are going to get their asses hand to them today?if your not going to win the cup might as well try to win the draft
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