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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 18 @ 8:44 PM ET
I've been trying all day to use simple logic instead. I'm failing apparently!
- MJL

Horse, water, etc.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:44 PM ET
Horse, water, etc.
- BulliesPhan87

no magic dust?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:46 PM ET
Ass-ih-9
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 18 @ 8:46 PM ET
can we have a fundraiser to get the money necessary for Ek to have an ignore button installed? I'll gladly volunteer a whole weekend.
- JoeRussomanno

desperately wanted...ADD alert
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
desperately wanted...ADD alert
- isaiah520

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:50 PM ET
What is the course your speaking of. You're the only person who believes apparently that Holmgren is not going to make the changes he feels is needed to better the team. Look at his track record. Nobody, myself included has said, or thinks that this team doesn't need to add some pieces, to become a true contender.
- MJL

Homer said he's not trading core away. Soooooo guess we go with 5 centers next few years???? You have offered nothing as far as a plan to do squat. You say keep bryz. You are willing to bet this teAm can win. You are betting a 36 37 bryz is better bet thaN going after my plan of young goalie to grow with core. You say I'm stupid to trade coots for dman or winger. But offer nothing of how we are going to get them? Draft??? Philly picks in the 20'S every year. We are not getting true winger ( perry type ) or dman so no top dman ??? Kimmo done after next year so guess coburns our guy??? You shoot everything done I say as dumb. Well what's your thinking??? You believe this team is going to win a cup soon??? What do think homer is going to or should do????
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Homer said he's not trading core away. Soooooo guess we go with 5 centers next few years???? You have offered nothing as far as a plan to do squat. You say keep bryz. You are willing to bet this teAm can win. You are betting a 36 37 bryz is better bet thaN going after my plan of young goalie to grow with core. You say I'm stupid to trade coots for dman or winger. But offer nothing of how we are going to get them? Draft??? Philly picks in the 20'S every year. We are not getting true winger ( perry type ) or dman so no top dman ??? Kimmo done after next year so guess coburns our guy??? You shoot everything done I say as dumb. Well what's your thinking??? You believe this team is going to win a cup soon??? What do think homer is going to or should do????
- SMS4016

jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 18 @ 8:53 PM ET


Bryz is hands down our best player this year. So lets buy him out cause he's ahead of everyone else. And then, even better, let's trade Coots away for a goalie.

Is this WIP?

- hereticpride


LMAO.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:55 PM ET
Homer said he's not trading core away. Soooooo guess we go with 5 centers next few years???? You have offered nothing as far as a plan to do squat. You say keep bryz. You are willing to bet this teAm can win. You are betting a 36 37 bryz is better bet thaN going after my plan of young goalie to grow with core. You say I'm stupid to trade coots for dman or winger. But offer nothing of how we are going to get them? Draft??? Philly picks in the 20'S every year. We are not getting true winger ( perry type ) or dman so no top dman ??? Kimmo done after next year so guess coburns our guy??? You shoot everything done I say as dumb. Well what's your thinking??? You believe this team is going to win a cup soon??? What do think homer is going to or should do????
- SMS4016


Mr. SMS4016, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 18 @ 8:58 PM ET
Homer said he's not trading core away. Soooooo guess we go with 5 centers next few years???? You have offered nothing as far as a plan to do squat. You say keep bryz. You are willing to bet this teAm can win. You are betting a 36 37 bryz is better bet thaN going after my plan of young goalie to grow with core. You say I'm stupid to trade coots for dman or winger. But offer nothing of how we are going to get them? Draft??? Philly picks in the 20'S every year. We are not getting true winger ( perry type ) or dman so no top dman ??? Kimmo done after next year so guess coburns our guy??? You shoot everything done I say as dumb. Well what's your thinking??? You believe this team is going to win a cup soon??? What do think homer is going to or should do????
- SMS4016

How bout this one, Mr. GM....

We have a bona fide goalie right now. Bryz is MONEY. I said it before- he's been playing at a Vezina caliber.

So. (I want you guys to picture the scene where the dude tries to bribe Morgan Freeman/Wayne Enterprises)

You want to buy out our first reliable, set it and forget it goalie in years, only to turn around and head back to square one by acquiring a young, unproven one that might not even pan out?

Good luck.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 18 @ 8:59 PM ET
I truely believe the following team can win a cup:

Voracek-G-Perry
Hartnell-Schenn-Read
Simmonds-Couts-Z/McGinn
Rinaldo-Laughton-Talbot

Timo/Coburn
Mez/Schenn
Gus/Grossman
Gervais/Bourdon/Manning

Bryz
?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:02 PM ET
Homer said he's not trading core away. Soooooo guess we go with 5 centers next few years???? You have offered nothing as far as a plan to do squat. You say keep bryz. You are willing to bet this teAm can win. You are betting a 36 37 bryz is better bet thaN going after my plan of young goalie to grow with core. You say I'm stupid to trade coots for dman or winger. But offer nothing of how we are going to get them? Draft??? Philly picks in the 20'S every year. We are not getting true winger ( perry type ) or dman so no top dman ??? Kimmo done after next year so guess coburns our guy??? You shoot everything done I say as dumb. Well what's your thinking??? You believe this team is going to win a cup soon??? What do think homer is going to or should do????
- SMS4016


None of that is accurate. I've said repeatedly, that I would be willing to trade Couturier for the right player. I don't view Subban as the right player. Some might, I don't. I would trade B Schenn for Subban though.
I see no logical reason to buyout Bryzgalov, then trade valuable assets for a young Goalie, that you have no idea how he is going to turn out. That to be blunt, is just plain dumb.
I would not be opposed to buying out Briere if the rest of this Season shows that he is declining. But that only makes sense if you use the money to upgrade the team. And as we saw this past off season. Dipping into the Free Agent market is not a guarantee.
I have also said repeatedly that I don't believe that this team as currently constituted, will win a Cup. It needs some pieces. It needs at the very least a top defenseman. But the key is to make the right moves. Not just any moves. You're just playing Fantasy Hockey.
There is no reason whatsoever that Bryzgalov can't continue to play at a high level for 5 years or longer.
Now if you propose the Flyers make a smart deal for a younger Goalie to groom for the future, behind Bryzgalov. I'm all for that. But I'm not dealing any of the Flyers top assets to do that. And certainly not Couturier. That would also be just plain dumb.
And I'm definitely not trading a player like Matt Read for a future UFA that might walk at the end of the year. And you throw around the Cap word, without giving any consideration to the tagging space issue.

And have you looked at the Flyers drafting history when drafting in the 20's in the first round? Start with Claude Giroux, Simon Gagne, and Mike Richards
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:04 PM ET
How bout this one, Mr. GM....

We have a bona fide goalie right now. Bryz is MONEY. I said it before- he's been playing at a Vezina caliber.

So. (I want you guys to picture the scene where the dude tries to bribe Morgan Freeman/Wayne Enterprises)

You want to buy out our first reliable, set it and forget it goalie in years, only to turn around and head back to square one by acquiring a young, unproven one that might not even pan out?

Good luck.

- Giroux_Is_God


And then trade Matt Read for a UFA to be that we can't re-sign during the Season. And risk losing him for nothing on July 1.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:05 PM ET
Now you're giving away Read for a player who is going to be a Free Agent. The proposed deals from you just get worse and worse. Our core isn't so young when you keep giving them away!
- MJL

Obvisouly you would have talked to agent and he's signing with you ala hartnell and kimmo from Nashville. Don't try and post to make me look stupid and why trade to get a bishop to back up bryz. Boy you love him. You think he the best thing since sliced bread. Sorry not! I'd take at least 15 to 20 goalies before him. Yeah let's see. His A$$ is getting bought out. Snider " boo hoo I want a goalie" homer here you go bryz rape us. He's average. Everyone sees this. This is absolute best he can play. Watch when lavy feels heAt cause the can't score and he opens it up again And he starts getting lit up then what? Well only 8 more years. Thank you for your service in the military last year. You obviously didn't watch much. Bryz at his best is slightly above averaGe bryz at his worst is joke. I don't even take you serious. Everyone in this planet can see his contract is horrible poop but you want to keep him. Who are yo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:08 PM ET
Obvisouly you would have talked to agent and he's signing with you ala hartnell and kimmo from Nashville. Don't try and post to make me look stupid and why trade to get a bishop to back up bryz. Boy you love him. You think he the best thing since sliced bread. Sorry not! I'd take at least 15 to 20 goalies before him. Yeah let's see. His A$$ is getting bought out. Snider " boo hoo I want a goalie" homer here you go bryz rape us. He's average. Everyone sees this. This is absolute best he can play. Watch when lavy feels heAt cause the can't score and he opens it up again And he starts getting lit up then what? Well only 8 more years. Thank you for your service in the military last year. You obviously didn't watch much. Bryz at his best is slightly above averaGe bryz at his worst is joke. I don't even take you serious. Everyone in this planet can see his contract is horrible poop but you want to keep him. Who are yo
- SMS4016


You don't need his help for that
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:08 PM ET
Obvisouly you would have talked to agent and he's signing with you ala hartnell and kimmo from Nashville. Don't try and post to make me look stupid and why trade to get a bishop to back up bryz. Boy you love him. You think he the best thing since sliced bread. Sorry not! I'd take at least 15 to 20 goalies before him. Yeah let's see. His A$$ is getting bought out. Snider " boo hoo I want a goalie" homer here you go bryz rape us. He's average. Everyone sees this. This is absolute best he can play. Watch when lavy feels heAt cause the can't score and he opens it up again And he starts getting lit up then what? Well only 8 more years. Thank you for your service in the military last year. You obviously didn't watch much. Bryz at his best is slightly above averaGe bryz at his worst is joke. I don't even take you serious. Everyone in this planet can see his contract is horrible poop but you want to keep him. Who are yo
- SMS4016


When are you doing this talking to the Agent?

This post isn't doing much to make your case!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:13 PM ET
Seems like its getting tense in here
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
Seems like its getting tense in here
- stveshdy


I'm just waiting for someone to reveal he's actually Ripped Fuel and tell us it's been his dream to troll us all
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:15 PM ET
do you have a crystal ball or something to say which prospect will actually blossom?
- JoeRussomanno

Yeah it's called watch the NHL. Anyone really surprised at McGinn. Guy skates he huge he hits he fights goes to the front of the net. Cousins same thing with more skill. Ghost... Anyone watCh wjc. Great skater passes shoots hockey smarts small but will grow. Sound familiar. Enstom kimmo gusty. Doesn't take a genius to figure out these players are coming in the next few years.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
I'm just waiting for someone to reveal he's actually Ripped Fuel and tell us it's been his dream to troll us all
- Jsaquella


I've had similar thoughts. That's (frank)ing creepy.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
I'm just waiting for someone to reveal he's actually Ripped Fuel and tell us it's been his dream to troll us all
- Jsaquella


I DID hear him on The Fan 590 earlier today.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
Obvisouly you would have talked to agent and he's signing with you ala hartnell and kimmo from Nashville. Don't try and post to make me look stupid and why trade to get a bishop to back up bryz. Boy you love him. You think he the best thing since sliced bread. Sorry not! I'd take at least 15 to 20 goalies before him. Yeah let's see. His A$$ is getting bought out. Snider " boo hoo I want a goalie" homer here you go bryz rape us. He's average. Everyone sees this. This is absolute best he can play. Watch when lavy feels heAt cause the can't score and he opens it up again And he starts getting lit up then what? Well only 8 more years. Thank you for your service in the military last year. You obviously didn't watch much. Bryz at his best is slightly above averaGe bryz at his worst is joke. I don't even take you serious. Everyone in this planet can see his contract is horrible poop but you want to keep him. Who are yo
- SMS4016

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:17 PM ET
I'm just waiting for someone to reveal he's actually Ripped Fuel and tell us it's been his dream to troll us all
- Jsaquella

I understand his point but its just coming out crazy with all the trades and picks leaving.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:17 PM ET
I've had similar thoughts. That's (frank)ing creepy.
- tangent_man


Well sick minds think alike....now we just have to figure out who else has been having these thoughts and we'll know the other sick bastard like you
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:17 PM ET
Yeah it's called watch the NHL. Anyone really surprised at McGinn. Guy skates he huge he hits he fights goes to the front of the net. Cousins same thing with more skill. Ghost... Anyone watCh wjc. Great skater passes shoots hockey smarts small but will grow. Sound familiar. Enstom kimmo gusty. Doesn't take a genius to figure out these players are coming in the next few years.
- SMS4016

I was referring to goaltending prospects. And also for every prospect that makes it there's 100 that don't.
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