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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:54 PM ET
Thanks for making my point. We don't have a Kane type or Keith that's what we need!!!!!!! How do we get them with no cap room ???? You do it thru trades. What are our strengths to trade from??????? How about the 5 centers we have!!!!!! Except g I say trade one for a Kane type player ie perry. If you have to throw a pick in or a read so be it. We are dealing from our surplus!! Trade picks for dman or vice versus. It can be done without weakening our team. Buyout Bryz for cap room so many different ways to go about it.
- SMS4016


I'll say it again, and have said it multiple times. I'm not against making trades. As long as their smart moves. Buying out Bryzgalov and then trading quality assets for a Goalie to replace him is not a smart move.

Do you understand that if the Flyers trade Read and a pick for Corey Perry, that they will not be able to re-sign him during the Season and risk losing him to Free Agency?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
Couple of questions:

Who is going to replace Bryz then if we buy him out?

Why do we need a Kane-type of player? We need a winger for Giroux you're saying?

Wouldn't you consider getting a franchise D-man, or #1 d-man more important than another forward?

- KGBflyers10


Were getting Bernier, Subban and Perry

Losing Bryz, Couturier, 2 1st rounders and possibly Read.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
For those that care about these things. The Flyers are now using LTIR.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
For those that care about these things. The Flyers are now using LTIR.
- MJL

Think a move is imminent?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:57 PM ET
Think a move is imminent?
- JoeRussomanno


No, this is just about recalling Harry Z.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:58 PM ET
This team needs to add another top shelf defenseman and they're good to go imo. Maybe another depth one. I'm fine with this forward corps going forward just needs to season a bit.
- JoeRussomanno

Ok so how the hell do we get one??? No cap room no one wants to trade picks or players even though we have 5 centers and we still need a top line winger. Even if we keep bryz. How do we get that???? No trade no buyout no cap hit. I'd love for someone to explain to me this.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
For those that care about these things. The Flyers are now using LTIR.
- MJL


Doesn't help they have 30 guys on the roster counting towards the cap.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
Ok so how the hell do we get one??? No cap room no one wants to trade picks or players even though we have 5 centers and we still need a top line winger. Even if we keep bryz. How do we get that???? No trade no buyout no cap hit. I'd love for someone to explain to me this.
- SMS4016


Again, nobody has said they are against buyouts or trades. Just certain buyouts and trades.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
Ok so how the hell do we get one??? No cap room no one wants to trade picks or players even though we have 5 centers and we still need a top line winger. Even if we keep bryz. How do we get that???? No trade no buyout no cap hit. I'd love for someone to explain to me this.
- SMS4016

nobody is against a trade so long as it is the right one. Problem is the trades you propose are unlikely.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
Doesn't help they have 30 guys on the roster counting towards the cap.
- stveshdy


Yep, well there will be some decisions that need to be made soon.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:01 PM ET
Couple of questions:

Who is going to replace Bryz then if we buy him out? Bob Ryab

Why do we need a Kane-type of player? We need a winger for Giroux you're saying? BOB RYAB FIST

Wouldn't you consider getting a franchise D-man, or #1 d-man more important than another forward? Another forward, because BOB RYAB FIST

Other Comments: BUY OUT LILJA BRIZZGALOFF

- KGBflyers10


There I filled out the questionnaire.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:01 PM ET
There I filled out the questionnaire.
- Giroux_Is_God

I like Bud Ryan better, has a real WIP feel to it.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:03 PM ET
I like Bud Ryan better, has a real WIP feel to it.
- JoeRussomanno

Edited, for poops and the like
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:03 PM ET
For those that care about these things. The Flyers are now using LTIR.
- MJL

Thanks for the heads up. Trying to pay attention to make these rules second nature in my brain,
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
Yep, well there will be some decisions that need to be made soon.
- MJL


Where do they start?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
I truely believe the following team can win a cup:

Voracek-G-Perry
Hartnell-Schenn-Read
Simmonds-Couts-Z/McGinn
Rinaldo-Laughton-Talbot

Timo/Coburn
Mez/Schenn
Gus/Grossman
Gervais/Bourdon/Manning

Bryz
?

- jstross
And where's briere? And how do we get perry?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
Edited, for poops and the like
- Giroux_Is_God

Lilja Bryzgaloff
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
Ok so how the hell do we get one??? No cap room no one wants to trade picks or players even though we have 5 centers and we still need a top line winger. Even if we keep bryz. How do we get that???? No trade no buyout no cap hit. I'd love for someone to explain to me this.
- SMS4016


Impossible unless you make a move via trade, draft, or picks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Where do they start?
- stveshdy



To speculate. When Hartnell and Meszaros come back. Players who are Waiver exempt are candidates to be sent down. That's Harry Z, McGinn, and Gustafsson.
Manitobakid
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.05.2005

Feb 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
we have to buy out bryz and trade Couturier for Bernier...
- JoeRussomanno


Bernier = Biron
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
Lilja Bryzgaloff
- JoeRussomanno

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
To speculate. When Hartnell and Meszaros come back. Players who are Waiver exempt are candidates to be sent down. That's Harry Z, McGinn, and Gustafsson.
- MJL


They send Gustafsson back down I'll be pissed.

What do they do with players like Shelley, Lilja, Foster, Sestito, Knuble?

Those players count towards the cap no matter what? I don't remember what the rule is in the new CBA.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
Bernier = Biron
- Manitobakid


SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
I understand his point but its just coming out crazy with all the trades and picks leaving.
- stveshdy

I don't see anyway to get at the least top winger top dman without trades and buyouts. Cap going down we only have 2 mil open have to fill out roster please we have g schenn coots contracts Coming up so how the he'll are we going to even get one piece?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
I don't see anyway to get at the least top winger top dman without trades and buyouts. Cap going down we only have 2 mil open have to fill out roster please we have g schenn coots contracts Coming up so how the he'll are we going to even get one piece?
- SMS4016


Buying out Briere will free up some money. Not sure what they will do once they have to pay Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier. Hopefully by then some contracts come off the books or they will have to move some guys.
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