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watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
You do not want to play two men short, that is why
- flyerdude17

or with a 2 man advantage

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
I am not sure of his role either. Mcginn needs to be in the lineup when healthy unless he regresses. If the first line of jake-G-read keep up the play for the next couple of games what would happen when hartnell comes back? Schenn back to centering jake and read with G in the middle of Breire and harts??
- Stinkfitz


Briere will cause the most issues when Hartnell comes back. He's the square peg in this scenario. Knuble's role is less important than what Briere brings to the table.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
that's the easy answer. give the guy a role, i bet he'd succeed. give him more legitimacy in the league, bogus calls go down based on reputation alone. not that we need anyone else on the PK right now.
- wilsonecho91

I find the easy answers work best for me. Searching out the difficult answers takes more work than I'm willing to dedicate to the buzz.
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
Carter was no more streaky then any other goal scorer. Way overblown. I have no issues with the trade considering they got Couturier. He has a chance to be a better player then Carter by himself
- MJL


Right into Niemi. I mean, really, RIGHT INTO HIM!
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
I disagree

*bursts into flames*
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
I find the easy answers work best for me. Searching out the difficult answers takes more work than I'm willing to dedicate to the buzz.
- mayorofangrytown

MoAT shaves with Occam's Razor.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
Look guys, my wife joined up!
- mayorofangrytown




Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
I disagree

*bursts into flames*

- watsonnostaw

twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
When you compare Giroux to others of his skill level and experience, he most likely hasn't peaked yet.
- NickTheKid87


So you're saying he hasn't hit his peak yet but will not repeat last seasons scoring success?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
any reason Rinaldo can't play PK? He's got some wheels and is pretty fearless.
- wilsonecho91


Because he hasn't earned the trust, defensively, to perform that role.

That's not to say he couldn't do it in the future.

Just not right now.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
I'd trade anyone in the right deal.
- MJL

Me too, but Couturier for O'Reilly? O'Really? Please god just be a rumor.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
How many players in their 30's right now would you give a contract with an $8-$10 million cap hit?
- bradleyc4

I think that inflation also needs to be taken into consideration... 8 years ago how many players in the league were paid 5 mil a year?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
It pushed all my buttons. Saw the original in the movie theater with kids Jsaquella would go to school with later, when I lived in Westmont. I felt it was a good sequel, especially considering the time in between.
- Flyskippy


Bet you saw it at the Eric in Westmont....which is where I saw it.


Creepy stuff
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
How many players in their 30's right now would you give a contract with an $8-$10 million cap hit?
- bradleyc4

probs foppa
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
probs foppa
- Crimsoninja


lol

happy birthday crims!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
How many players in their 30's right now would you give a contract with an $8-$10 million cap hit?
- bradleyc4



You pay players market value. But that is a completely different situation, and a different conversation. Here's the problem. You're using that statistical analysis for NHL player when they peak. There's over 700 players a Season. And a very wide distance between the top players, and the players on the bottom of the spectrum in terms of ability. Some players never really peak. They are what they are from day 1. So that wide discrepancy of players, skews that number. But narrow that down and only look at the top 20% of players in the League, or even the top 10% of players. Because they're the players that you're going to sign to those long term deals with large Cap hits. I bet you find the numbers are different. And what you really need to know, is how long they remain in that top 10% or so of players, and remain in the area of their peak performance. You also can't account for a number of factors including injury, losing the desire to play, etc.
You don't need any statisitical data to know that top players in the League, remain top players well into their 30's. Some even get better.
So using that statistical data to determine that it's a mistake to sign a player like Giroux to an 8 year deal, doesn't hold much water in my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Right into Niemi. I mean, really, RIGHT INTO HIM!
- jmatchett



Do you really want to discuss that? Let me know of you do. And I'll tell you what really happened on that play! I'd rather talk about more current events.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
"The difference between the Oilers and Flames now? The Oilers are finally interesting on the ice again. The Flames are only interesting off of it. In Calgary this season, it's Feaster famine."

Richard Cloutier


Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Bet you saw it at the Eric in Westmont....which is where I saw it.


Creepy stuff

- Jsaquella

Probably. It was for a birthday party for 1 of my classmates: Eric S., Michael M., Keith P., or Kevin R. would be my guess.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
Do you really want to discuss that? Let me know of you do. And I'll tell you what really happened on that play! I'd rather talk about more current events.
- MJL


i saw a replay of this over the summer from an ice view, side angle i had never seen before. clear as day he put the puck into niemi. no doubt in my mind. 100%.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
MoAT shaves with Occam's Razor.
- Flyskippy

Well sarcasm cuts too deeply.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
"The difference between the Oilers and Flames now? The Oilers are finally interesting on the ice again. The Flames are only interesting off of it. In Calgary this season, it's Feaster famine."

Richard Cloutier



- mayorofangrytown


seriously, do you think iginla lasts the season in calgary?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
i saw a replay of this over the summer from an ice view, side angle i had never seen before. clear as day he put the puck into niemi. no doubt in my mind. 100%.
- hammarby31



We've had this discussion before. Feel free to provide that replay and I'll take a look. It was obvious what happened on that play.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
probs foppa
- Crimsoninja

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