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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
If you can trade Lu ,you do it. If not ,it has to be Schneider.
- VANTEL



Yup, we can only speculate as fans about their actual trade values and what Gillis has been offered but if Schneider can bring in a really nice return you have to pull the trigger. I still think that MG being as stubborn as he is, will end trading Luongo if at all possible.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
He's always been a Hawk killer too. If you got him, it would make me nervous.
- Ogilthorpe2



All the better.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
Not possible. Campbell has a pretty big cap hit and Weiss apparently wants around 5 million per.
- Nucker101



Lu/ Edler 10.3 Mil Weiss/Cambell 10.2 Mil

He is currently at 3.1 wants 5 mil Manny off the books next year there is the extra 2 Mil
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Feb 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't think Garrison would have much of a return.

Lu and Edler for Campbell Wiess + could be something to consider.

- VANTEL

We need another Right ahnd Shot defenseman.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
Seems to me like Schneider would get you a much better return, and if Lu craps the bed next year...compliance buy out and go with Lack. That's what I would do, not that you care what Hawk fan thinks.
- Ogilthorpe2



Believe it or not I always respect your opinion.

I think you always have a good vision of things.


I can't see Lu being bought out. If we trade Schneider then Lu is our guy for the next 7-8 years.

If he played like this year I am ok with him staying. I do prefer Schneider though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
We need another Right ahnd Shot defenseman.
- vancity787



Garrison and Campbell played together last year.

acmidd28
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 06.17.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:07 PM ET
Funny reading a Canuck fan write about diving.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
Lu/ Edler 10.3 Mil Weiss/Cambell 10.2 Mil

He is currently at 3.1 wants 5 mil Manny off the books next year there is the extra 2 Mil

- VANTEL



You do realize that the cap is going down quite a bit next year right?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
Believe it or not I always respect your opinion.

I think you always have a good vision of things.


I can't see Lu being bought out. If we trade Schneider then Lu is our guy for the next 7-8 years.

If he played like this year I am ok with him staying. I do prefer Schneider though.

- VANTEL

I wouldn't envision him being bought out either, I think Lu would be just fine. But if you trade Scneids and Lu falls apart, at least it would be an option. Is Lack still hurt?
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Feb 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
I wouldn't envision him being bought out either, I think Lu would be just fine. But if you trade Scneids and Lu falls apart, at least it would be an option. Is Lack still hurt?
- Ogilthorpe2

YYYUUUUPPPP
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
Funny reading a Canuck fan write about diving.
- acmidd28

Funny listening to Chicago fans whining about a supposed cheap shot.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:27 PM ET
Believe it or not I always respect your opinion.

I think you always have a good vision of things.


I can't see Lu being bought out. If we trade Schneider then Lu is our guy for the next 7-8 years.

If he played like this year I am ok with him staying. I do prefer Schneider though.

- VANTEL


Luo would never be bought out, you would lose your asset for nothing. If you are going to buy him out you trade him instead for the best offer on the table, even if it is only a 5th round pick. I am also not sure how it works now when you trade someone and you can absorb part of their salary, but that could be an option as well.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:31 PM ET
Wow, I didn't even make it two pages today, a lot of passionate fans

Hopefully Hossa is not seriously injured and back soon.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
I feel Schneider will be better than Luo in a few years, but if the right return was available I would be willing to pull the trigger.

I am not afraid to state publicly that our window of opportunity is getting smaller every year. Either we gamble and trade Schneids for a run right now/next year or we trade Luo for young talent to hopefully keep us contending (make playoffs) for years to come as some of our young guys develop.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Feb 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
sign him
- pker2theend


Agreed. He may be out of job for less time than Boudreau
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
Wow, I didn't even make it two pages today, a lot of passionate fans

Hopefully Hossa is not seriously injured and back soon.

- 1970vintage


I can summarize

CHI Fans: Vancouver Canucks, fans, coaches all suck. Was the dirtiest play in the history of sports, Canucks full of cheap shot artists and divers, Chicago full of saints who have done no wrong. Hansen should be banned from the NHL, he is going to pay, watch out. Keith hit on Sedin was okay because he had a dirty hit on Keith earlier in the game and the elbow was just retaliation.
and Oglithorpe2 has conducted himself with class and been willing to discuss things in a civil manner.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
Agreed. He may be out of job for less time than Boudreau
- Canuckleafer


Will be interesting to see where he goes. Any bets?

I am going to say Islanders.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
I can summarize

CHI Fans: Vancouver Canucks, fans, coaches all suck. Was the dirtiest play in the history of sports, Canucks full of cheap shot artists and divers, Chicago full of saints who have done no wrong. Hansen should be banned from the NHL, he is going to pay, watch out. Keith hit on Sedin was okay because he had a dirty hit on Keith earlier in the game and the elbow was just retaliation.
and Oglithorpe2 has conducted himself with class and been willing to discuss things in a civil manner.

- immature_male

Not sure what's gotten into me

immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:43 PM ET
Not sure what's gotten into me
- Ogilthorpe2


I had to do a double take when it said your team was CHI. I respect evryone has right to an opinion, just nice when people are willing to debate it or offer thoughts on subjects, and willing to listen to counter points.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/116108

This is a real cheap shot

- pker2theend


You, sir, have zero clue how fighting works in the NHL if you think this is a "cheap shot".

You plow through a player, look up and see the Hawks "enforcer" standing over you with his gloves off... usually you take the mitts off and fight. But then again, that's common sense when it comes to hockey fighting.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Feb 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
I feel Schneider will be better than Luo in a few years, but if the right return was available I would be willing to pull the trigger.

I am not afraid to state publicly that our window of opportunity is getting smaller every year. Either we gamble and trade Schneids for a run right now/next year or we trade Luo for young talent to hopefully keep us contending (make playoffs) for years to come as some of our young guys develop.

- immature_male


If you make the right moves at the right times, the window never closes. Superficial loyalty is the most common cause of "rebuilding". Keep Schneider because he extends your window. If I'm a GM of any team, and I have a core vet who hasn't agreed to an extension at the TDL (heading into UFA), he's gone for a younger version of himself (think Ohlund, Jovo, Ehrhoff and the return they could have brought vs what they did in the post season...).

If the team is built with proper depth, it shouldn't ruin your odds to win the cup, and eventually you have a perrennial contender with no down years. The sh!tty side is you have to know when to shoot old yeller. This league isn't built for one-team careers anymore. It's a harsh management style, but I guarantee people would be satisfied with the results.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:50 PM ET
I had to do a double take when it said your team was CHI. I respect evryone has right to an opinion, just nice when people are willing to debate it or offer thoughts on subjects, and willing to listen to counter points.
- immature_male

I try to behave when I'm outside the Hawk cacoon, doesn't always work out though

I'm much more ornery on the Hawk pages.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Feb 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
Just suspend Hansen.....was a headshot...who cares...move on....nothing to see........just more fodder for the haters.....
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
I can summarize

CHI Fans: Vancouver Canucks, fans, coaches all suck. Was the dirtiest play in the history of sports, Canucks full of cheap shot artists and divers, Chicago full of saints who have done no wrong. Hansen should be banned from the NHL, he is going to pay, watch out. Keith hit on Sedin was okay because he had a dirty hit on Keith earlier in the game and the elbow was just retaliation.
and Oglithorpe2 has conducted himself with class and been willing to discuss things in a civil manner.

- immature_male


You left out the part where I'm the worst blogger in history.
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Feb 20 @ 5:01 PM ET
Ian, whats u r take on KASSIAN? ...after last few games? ....
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