Ian, whats u r take on KASSIAN? ...after last few games? ....
- Canuckfan2006

I'd need to see him play to have a take on him.



don't even get me started today, more on him tomorrow.

Ian, whats u r take on KASSIAN? ...after last few games? ....
- Canuckfan2006

I'm obvioulsy not Ian but I'll give you my take. He needs a coach/mentor who can communicate to him what's expected. Kassian may be 22 and he may be inexperienced at this level, but there's no reason he can't make a physical (or even psychological) impact on every game no matter which line he's on. We need him to skate hard and get in guys' faces. That kind of presence is a deterrent to the Bollands of the world going too far with the twins. I don't criticize him because his offensive production has fallen off. I criticize him because he doesn't replace that production with off the chart effort and intensity. Hopefully that will come.

Ian is a total homer and the most arrogant, close-minded blogger. Ever.

I'm obvioulsy not Ian but I'll give you my take. He needs a coach/mentor who can communicate to him what's expected. Kassian may be 22 and he may be inexperienced at this level, but there's no reason he can't make a physical (or even psychological) impact on every game no matter which line he's on. We need him to skate hard and get in guys' faces. That kind of presence is a deterrent to the Bollands of the world going too far with the twins. I don't criticize him because his offensive production has fallen off. I criticize him because he doesn't replace that production with off the chart effort and intensity. Hopefully that will come.
- DrChristianTroy

Brenden Morrow maybe

So you mean to tell me someone slashed Bolland?

Why would anyone do that?

He's such a nice honest player.
- IanEsplen

After all the stick work he put on the Sedin's to get them off there game in the playoffs......... Couldn't happen to a better person.

After all the stick work he put on the Sedin's to get them off there game in the playoffs......... Couldn't happen to a better person.
- SMP8719

Bolland.

Brenden Morrow maybe
- IanEsplen

Meh.



He's not the same player he once was, he was even on the Stars 4th line at one point this year.

Tell you what, you bring your biased reporting somewhere else. IMHO a one year suspension is not enough for a cowardly hit like that. Bring your biased typical Vancouver crying somewhere else....all you ever do up there is cry. BTW, please don't tell me anymore about how Luongo will bring a package of 3-4 good players as he is clearly overpaid and past his prime and everyone knows he needs to be traded so if I were you I would expect one decent player and a prospect at best.
- bdashaw

But I am sure that you rationalized Keiths hit to Daniel Sedin as well....... and now that was an intentional attempt to injure... So really Chicago fans should just be quiet.... that cost us our top scorer for our first round playoff exit.

Meh.



He's not the same player he once was, he was even on the Stars 4th line at one point this year.
- Nucker101

Might actually be the perfect rental since he's in the last year of his contract. Playoff warrior/someone to show Kassian how it's done.

Dirty or not dirty.. Mitchell 100% knew exactly what he was doing and intentionally hit him to enact damage. Note: It wasn't against Ben Eager, Bolig, Brookbank, Frolik.. it was against one of their top skilled players as is par for the course with this Vancouver team. Completely missing the point.
- CaptainBlackhawk

That happens it is hockey.... of course the top players are going to be hit to get them off their game.... The Sedins get rocked multiple times a game. And that hit was an amazing hit unless you are a blackhawks or Toews fan. I would have perfered no head injury as that sucks for hockey... but it was a good clean hit.

Again--completely missing the point. My point has nothing to do with the hit being dirty or not.
- CaptainBlackhawk

Ever seen the hit Steve Moore put on Naslund???? like Vancouver fans have never seen there stars targeted by a SO called Hockey play. I feel your pain... but crying about it is supposed to be for us ignorant vancouver fans haha

But I am sure that you rationalized Keiths hit to Daniel Sedin as well....... and now that was an intentional attempt to injure... So really Chicago fans should just be quiet.... that cost us our top scorer for our first round playoff exit.
- SMP8719

No one rationalized Keith's hit. We all thought it was a cheap shot, and the 5 games or whatever he got, he deserved.

Toews does not have the puck, Mitchel blindsided him before the puck arrives. You decide.

http://bleacherreport.com...cks-star-for-blatant-shot

Here is a story about one of the Sedin's wielding an elbow to Dustin Brown. Hansen elbows Hossa.

That is a lot of elbows flying around.
- ikeane

Oh no the big bad Sedins actually stuck up for themselves after getting run by brown multiple times... wow I must have missed that..... Funny I didn't think the "sisters" could defend themselves. I have been missing the crazy elbows Bure would throw to the goons trying to target him.

or the Sedin on Dustin brown Elbow, or Bertuzzi riding Moore head first into the ice, or the slash on a player returning to injury removing him from the game (Hansen on Bolland), or Hansen elbowing a player between him and the puck in the back of the head. All could be considered intent to injure. I believe the point that was raised earlier was that a lot of these "questionable hits" seem to be dished out by Canuck players
- ikeane

Don't bring up Bertuzzi unless you want to bring up the cheap shot by Moore that ruined Naslunds Career and in the end ruined Bertuzzi as well. PS I am not defending that cheap shot by bertuzzi.... he should have suckered him from the front like a Leaf Player.... ORR would have done lol

Or Bolland
Or Seabrook

Carry on....

And Daniel suffered the concussion as a direct result of retribution from a previous cheap shot on Keith in that game. Note: Doesn't make it right.. just that Daniel Sedin actually had the "questionable/hockey play" type hit previously in that game. Which 100% carries validity to my point.
- CaptainBlackhawk

That Questionable hit happens almost every game mulitple times.... Stop whining.... I thought us Canuck fans were supposed to be the whiners. The Sedins get hit like that every game trying to do their cycle in the corners.

Keith - Sedin --- intentional, non hockey play

Hansen - Hossa --- unintentional, hockey play

Oh well, Karma is a female dog and now so is Hossa.

leave it to a canucks blogger to talk about Hossa selling a penalty with the crap that Kesler pulled last night

Hossa was really selling it hard I guess, not returning and all after scoring 2 goals!
- Sconnie

That was a brutal Dive by Kesler ( makes me want the canucks to trade him.... But after seeing the Sharp dive the other night I dont' think you should talk.

Carcillo had one in EDM last year. I fully support he was wrong with that hit. If Bollig hit kelser like that, I would be calling for Bollig to get a suspension. I never said intent to injure was there. The fact that it happened continues what appears to be a trend. To quote DarkKane on JJ's board "Sedin getting a head injury is a capital offense, Hossa getting one is just a hockey play." A head shot is a head shot. Torres gave Seabrook one a couple of years ago while playing for a BC city. Difference being, that in the past 2 years, this has been a common occurance. A Chicago player gets hit with a "hockey play" and that is "ok". A Hawk player makes a retalitory boneheaded play causing the same results, some fans call for a year long suspension. Why the exception?
- ikeane

Comparing keiths cheap shot just doesn't help your argument..... it had 0% hockey play in it...

Keith - Sedin --- intentional, non hockey play

Hansen - Hossa --- unintentional, hockey play

Oh well, Karma is a female dog and now so is Hossa.
- Beatle_john

Keith-Sedin ----intentional, suspended 5 games

Hansen-Hossa ----intentional, TBD ...probably a fine or 1 game at most

Hossa a female dog?

I won't even attempt to finish reading all the blathering for 16+ pages by idiot fans on both sides of this. Bad arguers tend to cherry pick bad arguments to pick apart, and the people with legitimate respectable points and opinions get ignored.

Briefly, regarding the hit: the more I see it, the more I believe that it was an accident, but completely avoidable. In fact, if Hansen throws his hip at Hossa instead, we're all talking about what a beautiful hit he made. Instead, he makes a poor decision to reach (whether you believe that's what he was doing or not is irrelevant) too high with a bent arm toward a puck that is out of his reach and hits an unsuspecting player.

Now here's where I take issue with the author, the commenters, and Hansen himself. Instead of saying "this play is dirty" or "this play is clean" you should all be saying "this play was stupid, avoidable, and shouldn't have happened." He should have said "I made a dumb play, I hope he's okay." But this isn't what happened. Instead, people want to talk about how okay or not okay the play was, and Hansen himself shrugged it off and pretended he didn't know he made contact with the guy's head.

And that's what drives me insane about this Canuck team. Man up and take responsibility for what you've done. There's a reason that this team has a league-wide reputation for being bad guys, and it's because they go about their business thinking everything they do is okay, and with justification. No contrition, no admission, just "well it's okay because it was a hockey play" or "he got our guy first, so we were standing up for ourselves," or my favorite, "he's a scumbag, so it's okay to take cheap shots at him because he does it to us."

Change the culture and conduct of the team and (some of) its fans, and the league might change their perspective too. As a hockey player myself, I completely understand what it's like for some guys to get vilified for their play on the ice, but it's their conduct after the fact that defines the class of a player and a team.

Keith-Sedin ----intentional, suspended 5 games

Hansen-Hossa ----intentional, TBD ...probably a fine or 1 game at most

Hossa a female dog?
- Ogilthorpe2

I think the Hossa a female dog is more about how Karma comes around. Keith put out Sedin until the playoffs and was not the same when he returned. His hit could be the singel most reason the Canucks did not get past the Kings in round one.

If a Canuck, and in this case, unintentional, does the same to the Hawks, then the Statement is correct. Hossa is the female dog in this case, the tool that Karma used to straighten things out.

That is just a guess....

But if you see a team get a power-play just because you stay down that extra second, then why wouldn't you try it? There really is no harm in trying it after the whistle has gone.


So, just to really sell it, he didn't come back for the rest of the game, right?

[quote=Beatle_john]

The more I think about it, this is really a valid statement.

Keith's hit ruined the Canucks chances at winning a cup last year. Hawk fans forgot about the hit as soon as the Canucks were out of town or the 5 games were over. But things were not forgotten in Vancouver and Chicago fans complaints about Vancouver fans being whiners just made it worse.

So yes, Hossa is the female dog that Karma used to even things up. And teh Canucks did not have to goon about to get revenge... it was Karma.

I know sometimes the truth tastes like a poop-taco but it is supposed to... it is a poop-taco after all.

After all the stick work he put on the Sedin's to get them off there game in the playoffs......... Couldn't happen to a better person.
- SMP8719

You mean couldn't happen to a better Stanley Cup winning person. Just sayin' (trollin')

[quote=Beatle_john]

And you will also note, out of respect to you ( ) and other good hawk fans, I did not post this is teh Hawk forum. It would have caused a storm and I would have been labeled a troll.

So... just for thought....