If you could only keep 2 of the 3. Who would you keep?
- twistedwrister9

Vanek and Pommer.

Trade Miller on deadline day and you might get a bidding war. Again though what 8 teams does he refuse to not waive him NMC for or does he waive to get the hell outta dodge? Does Darcy have the stones to trade him in Conference?

140 posts is gonna be a tough get with only 3/4 posting

Vanek and Pommer.

Trade Miller on deadline day and you might get a bidding war. Again though what 8 teams does he refuse to not waive him NMC for or does he waive to get the hell outta dodge? Does Darcy have the stones to trade him in Conference?
- dadeadhead

Yea....I'd deal Miller as well if I had to pick one.

140 posts is gonna be a tough get with only 3/4 posting
- twistedwrister9

The impossible takes a little longer.

Stafford is Stafford. He'll score in bunches and the disappear. I guess I'd rather deal with Stafford and his issues then David Jones at the same price. But I would look to move him. Problem is his value is low now.
- dadeadhead

yeah. things just got interesting now that lindy is gone. i doubt much will change but it could.

Vanek/Cody/Pomer
Foligno/Ennis/Grigs
Ott/Porter/Stafford
Gerbe/Hecht/Kaleta.

Is how I'd start them tomorrow night, then go from there.
- dadeadhead

Though I would like those lines, especially compared to what we saw last game, I think the lines should look like this: (Not far off your lines)

Vanek - Hodgson - Pominville
Foligno - Ennis - Ott
Gerbe - Grigorenko - Stafford
Hecht - Porter - Kaleta

Reasoning:

Ott has played better than anyone in the bottom six right now and has more goals than Stafford. I think he has earned a couple games up on the second, especially since Stafford has been playing like doo doo.

Grigorenko is supposed to be our center of the future, lets develop him as a center, and put him with people who play some offense. I realize it is OK to put a center on the wing, but I think that he needs to stay at center. Playing with Gerbe and Stafford is better than playing with Hecht or Kaleta. Also I think it is a tad insulting for Grigorenko to vault over Ott since he has played better than almost anyone else on the team in the last few games.

I like Rolston as interim... if he really impresses I could even see him as the coach here for the next few years. That being said I still think we need to make a trade or two even if they aren't "blow up the team" moves.

The impossible takes a little longer.
- dadeadhead

i wont be around for the 2k mark.

Yea....I'd deal Miller as well if I had to pick one.
- twistedwrister9

I guess it depends on the return for each really.

I didn't see Ruff getting das boot really, so I was of the opinion that Vanek and Miller would be moved. Now I'm not so sure. I think you could see Pommer moved especially if Ruff goes to some place like Columbus.

Though I would like those lines, especially compared to what we saw last game, I think the lines should look like this: (Not far off your lines)

Vanek - Hodgson - Pominville
Foligno - Ennis - Ott
Gerbe - Grigorenko - Stafford
Hecht - Porter - Kaleta

Reasoning:

Ott has played better than anyone in the bottom six right now and has more goals than Stafford. I think he has earned a couple games up on the second, especially since Stafford has been playing like doo doo.

Grigorenko is supposed to be our center of the future, lets develop him as a center, and put him with people who play some offense. I realize it is OK to put a center on the wing, but I think that he needs to stay at center. Playing with Gerbe and Stafford is better than playing with Hecht or Kaleta. Also I think it is a tad insulting for Grigorenko to vault over Ott since he has played better than almost anyone else on the team in the last few games.

I like Rolston as interim... if he really impresses I could even see him as the coach here for the next few years. That being said I still think we need to make a trade or two even if they aren't "blow up the team" moves.
- rsj2588

or does he break up the top line?

ott coho vanek
foligno ennis pomminville
gerbe grigorenko stafford
hect porter kaleta

Vanek and Pommer.

Trade Miller on deadline day and you might get a bidding war. Again though what 8 teams does he refuse to not waive him NMC for or does he waive to get the hell outta dodge? Does Darcy have the stones to trade him in Conference?
- dadeadhead

I would keep Miller and Vanek. I think that Pominville holds a lot of value for other teams and would also bring back a nice return.

Trading Miller would suck because we wouldn't get a starting goalie that can play as many games as miller or is as good as Miller. Reason why this would be a huge problem is because our backup is an absolute sieve.

or does he break up the top line?

ott coho vanek
foligno ennis pomminville
gerbe grigorenko stafford
hect porter kaleta
- joshs

No... why?

I guess it depends on the return for each really.

I didn't see Ruff getting das boot really, so I was of the opinion that Vanek and Miller would be moved. Now I'm not so sure. I think you could see Pommer moved especially if Ruff goes to some place like Columbus.
- dadeadhead

Pommer to CBUS for a deal involving Ryan Johansen coming this way. There's your big center

No... why?
- rsj2588

to get scoring throughout the lineup. also that 1st line has really cooled off since that great stretch. been playing even hockey.

I would keep Miller and Vanek. I think that Pominville holds a lot of value for other teams and would also bring back a nice return.

Trading Miller would suck because we wouldn't get a starting goalie that can play as many games as miller or is as good as Miller. Reason why this would be a huge problem is because our backup is an absolute sieve.
- rsj2588

I also would see that as another major change in direction in this team. Cut the coach, trade the captain. Players would really take that seriously (at least I hope).

Though I would like those lines, especially compared to what we saw last game, I think the lines should look like this: (Not far off your lines)

Vanek - Hodgson - Pominville
Foligno - Ennis - Ott
Gerbe - Grigorenko - Stafford
Hecht - Porter - Kaleta

Reasoning:

Ott has played better than anyone in the bottom six right now and has more goals than Stafford. I think he has earned a couple games up on the second, especially since Stafford has been playing like doo doo.

Grigorenko is supposed to be our center of the future, lets develop him as a center, and put him with people who play some offense. I realize it is OK to put a center on the wing, but I think that he needs to stay at center. Playing with Gerbe and Stafford is better than playing with Hecht or Kaleta. Also I think it is a tad insulting for Grigorenko to vault over Ott since he has played better than almost anyone else on the team in the last few games.

I like Rolston as interim... if he really impresses I could even see him as the coach here for the next few years. That being said I still think we need to make a trade or two even if they aren't "blow up the team" moves.
- rsj2588

Just gonna guess that Rolston is going to put Grigs on the wing to get him going. He did the same thing for Girgs in Rochester. Center is a tough position for and 18 yr old to come in and play especially on the 3rd line which is traditionally a checking/defensive responsible line.

I would keep Miller and Vanek. I think that Pominville holds a lot of value for other teams and would also bring back a nice return.

Trading Miller would suck because we wouldn't get a starting goalie that can play as many games as miller or is as good as Miller. Reason why this would be a huge problem is because our backup is an absolute sieve.
- rsj2588

The question to ask is of the 3, which would you re-sign after next year? I wouldn't be too keen on giving a 32-year-old Jason Pominville $6 million per. I also wouldn't give a 34-year-old Ryan Miller $7 million per. I'd be open to trading either/both of them.

to get scoring throughout the lineup. also that 1st line has really cooled off since that great stretch. been playing even hockey.
- joshs

Yeah... I see what your saying but I still don't want to break that up. Believe it or not I could see putting Ott on the second would really help that line produce more. Stafford isn't hard enough on the puck, it would open it up a lot for Ennis and Foligno. I just see Ott's intensity really improving them in many ways, plus he has scored a few goals and created turnovers with his hits.

Pommer to CBUS for a deal involving Ryan Johansen coming this way. There's your big center
- twistedwrister9

While I do like Ryan Johansen, he still needs work. His NHL play is something left to be desired. It sucks that Mason is an absolute train wreck. He is still young but I feel I'd like to get a tad more than Johansen and Mason for Pommer. I think Pommer would be a nice fit with Brassard.

While I do like Ryan Johansen, he still needs work. His NHL play is something left to be desired. It sucks that Mason is an absolute train wreck. He is still young but I feel I'd like to get a tad more than Johansen and Mason for Pommer. I think Pommer would be a nice fit with Brassard.
- dadeadhead

What about Pommer as a piece in a ROR deal?

The question to ask is of the 3, which would you re-sign after next year? I wouldn't be too keen on giving a 32-year-old Jason Pominville $6 million per. I also wouldn't give a 34-year-old Ryan Miller $7 million per. I'd be open to trading either/both of them.
- Pierceme69

Or a 30 yr old Vanek 7 mil again.


They sign all three of them to deals like that we are then the Eastern Conference version of the Calgary Flames.

Or a 30 yr old Vanek 7 mil again.


They sign all three of them to deals like that we are then the Eastern Conference version of the Calgary Flames.
- dadeadhead

Of the 3 I'd take Vanek at $7 million at 30 than the other 2 who will be older and nearly as expensive.

What about Pommer as a piece in a ROR deal?
- Pierceme69

They would have to send something extra our way in that case, ROR is still pretty much unproven. He is good, but not that good, or a wildcard.

Yeah... I see what your saying but I still don't want to break that up. Believe it or not I could see putting Ott on the second would really help that line produce more. Stafford isn't hard enough on the puck, it would open it up a lot for Ennis and Foligno. I just see Ott's intensity really improving them in many ways, plus he has scored a few goals and created turnovers with his hits.
- rsj2588

yeah maybe.
if that 1st line conitnues to struggle we for sure should shuffle that up.

What about Pommer as a piece in a ROR deal?
- Pierceme69

Him on a wing with Duchene would look good but they just signed PA Parenteau and he's on Duchene's rw and looks good.

I did mention last year I thought Pommer on Colorado would be a good move for both teams.

Of the 3 I'd take Vanek at $7 million at 30 than the other 2 who will be older and nearly as expensive.
- Pierceme69

Vanek at 30 making 7 mil had Jerome Iginla written all over it. I do like Vanek and think he's coming into his own but a 7mil deal scares me do to guys tend to slow down at 32/33 and he isn't the quickest guy as it is.