the ugly is over with.

JVR just scored his 11th
- PLindbergh31

No big deal. Luke Schenn has over 11 penalties, so that's a clear win for the Flyers in that trade.

That is this team's biggest issue in my opinion. Saw it again on the 2nd Mueller goal. No body picks up the late man. Forwards constantly glide in the defensive end instead of skating hard all the way back to the net.
- MJL

Forwards aren't helping at all on D. Heck, the Penguins strategy was charge fire it in behind the net and attack. Offensively the team was more than fine tinight, just not finishing.

No big deal. Luke Schenn has over 11 penalties, so that's a clear win for the Flyers in that trade.
- BringBack25

Jury still out. My fear is if both players reach their potential, Flyers will lose the trade fairly significantly.

Jury still out. My fear is if both players reach their potential, Flyers will lose the trade fairly significantly.
- PLindbergh31

In my opinion a Physical top pair shut down defenseman is a more valuable player then a goal scoring Winger.

yah ouch..just looked at it again and its not pretty


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- opeth_pa

Was on his way to a possible Vezina. .955 save %. I just saw it. Yup that is a season ender at the very least.

Jury still out. My fear is if both players reach their potential, Flyers will lose the trade fairly significantly.
- PLindbergh31

JvR would need to reach his potential AND stay healthy.

I still like the trade for the Flyers.

In my opinion a Physical top pair shut down defenseman is a more valuable player then a goal scoring Winger.
- MJL

Don't think Schenn will be a top pairing guy. Who knows. Like I said jury is still out.

2-1 rangers now

JvR would need to reach his potential AND stay healthy.

I still like the trade for the Flyers.
- FlyerGuy

Yep. Staying healthy is a big part of it. No question about it.

2-1 rangers now
- flyfan1212

At least the Devils lost.

It sucks the way the game went down. But the flyers were never going to win this game. Not after last night. Coming back from the road trip, etc. it sucks with what happened to read. I think the flyers will sneak in to the playoffs.

Don't think Schenn will be a top pairing guy. Who knows. Like I said jury is still out.
- PLindbergh31

Time will tell. But he definitely has that potential.

In my opinion a Physical top pair shut down defenseman is a more valuable player then a goal scoring Winger.
- MJL

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- Just5

Just curious, if Holmgren acquired Lokitinov, and Ponikarovsky for a 5th and 7th round pick, what would the reaction have been?

Without Schenn this defense would be awful. A very good trade for both teams IMO. I'd like to make the playoffs this year and make a run, but I'd also like to find out our young guys and needs to better complete the rebuilding process.

Just curious, if Holmgren acquired Lokitinov, and Ponikarovsky for a 5th and 7th round pick, what would the reaction have been?
- PLindbergh31

Honestly, what's the point?

Without Schenn this defense would be awful. A very good trade for both teams IMO. I'd like to make the playoffs this year and make a run, but I'd also like to find out our young guys and needs to better complete the rebuilding process.
- jstross

I'd like to see how this defense plays if the team as a whole would play better defensively.

Briere is no longer a $6.5 million player. Don't care how he finishes. If you can't trade him then he's gonzo. Even if they can't replace him I'd go with youth. Love Knuble and Feds, but it's time to move forward.

I'd like to see how this defense plays if the team as a whole would play better defensively.
- MJL

The Flyers D could be better, but they get very little help fromt he forwards. Are the forwards just that bad defesively or is the system a part of this? Tough to tell without a coaches tape view.

I'd like to see how this defense plays if the team as a whole would play better defensively.
- MJL

The flyers always go back to their bad habits after playing the pens

JVR just scored his 11th
- PLindbergh31

The Flyers D could be better, but they get very little help fromt he forwards. Are the forwards just that bad defesively or is the system a part of this? Tough to tell without a coaches tape view.
- jstross

I think it is a combination of the two. I could discuss some systems issues that I don't care for in the way the Flyers play. But regardless of that, players not picking up their coverage, gliding on the back check, leaving the zone early and cheating on breakouts. None of that is systems related.

Briere is no longer a $6.5 million player. Don't care how he finishes. If you can't trade him then he's gonzo. Even if they can't replace him I'd go with youth. Love Knuble and Feds, but it's time to move forward.
- jstross

You should be able to trade him to the islanders for some new York cheesecake