Very frustrated as everyone here is, but on the bright side we are one 4-5 game winning streak away from being right near the top & breaking away from the pack. I still have a lot of faith in this group but we need the dead weight of this team to start pulling they're fair share. Cough cough, Richards...Gaborik

Very frustrated as everyone here is, but on the bright side we are one 4-5 game winning streak away from being right near the top & breaking away from the pack. I still have a lot of faith in this group but we need the dead weight of this team to start pulling they're fair share. Cough cough, Richards...Gaborik
- B2B76

Is that Robitaille out there or Richards? Just as slow as Luc and as effective as his stint in NY was. Looking like just another bust free agent signing for this organization.

Idk if this has been discussed, but I'm furtrated now. Idk about any of you guys, but it's hard for to see this team doing anything notable to build of of last year. I just don't see it and it's make a little sad/annoyed/frustrated.
- tomburton99

people said the same about the LA Kings last season, in this short season all I want is to get in, right now it seems like that is going to be impossible but lets not lose faith guys. Its one of those deals when on a night the PP scores a big goal, we get undone on the PK and even give up a shorty on some nights the PK is big but the P PP is lousy, or things start to turn around and we lose Nash. This team was tremendous last season but there were a lot of little breaks and they won the close games they are losing now. Lets not lose sight of the fact that this team is pretty young still, sometimes you take steps back before you take the big leap, last nights team was last year's team minus Prust, Dubinsky and Artie, ...not pretty...pray for Nash's return. When was the last fighting major the Rangers took? Carpinello writes about the lack of snarl this season, we need these guys to get that back!!

Very frustrated as everyone here is, but on the bright side we are one 4-5 game winning streak away from being right near the top & breaking away from the pack. I still have a lot of faith in this group but we need the dead weight of this team to start pulling they're fair share. Cough cough, Richards...Gaborik
- B2B76

here here...we are in the minority on this board...granted we do plainly suck right now...but I think we will pull ourselves out...

It's a circus, every night we hear Torts say "I don't think the whole lineup is playing", isn't it his job to get those players playing? He lost his effectiveness nd the team is headed south, they are frustrating, embarrassing and depressing to be a fan of,yeah they might be within a playoff spot but that's a failure in itself.

It's a circus, every night we hear Torts say "I don't think the whole lineup is playing", isn't it his job to get those players playing? He lost his effectiveness nd the team is headed south, they are frustrating, embarrassing and depressing to be a fan of,yeah they might be within a playoff spot but that's a failure in itself.
- cranford93

I love his answers he acts like he has nothing to do with it.

I love his answers he acts like he has nothing to do with it.
- Chris Erwin

Thats not true, just yesterday (or the other day) he admitted to possibly putting too much emphasis on resting and recovering as opposed to practicing more and increasing the tempo. Thats an admission on his part that he over-thought the whole approach, so the way I see it he has included himself as part of the problem and has included himself and the coaches in numerous quotes in his press conferences especially the post practice press conferences...points in 6 of their last 7 games with just the one regulation loss...again, I am miffed and frustrated but lets not hit the panic button...

I love his answers he acts like he has nothing to do with it.
- Chris Erwin

Yes, like he is a third party vendor instead of the head coach of the team. Can he be more arrogant?

Yes, like he is a third party vendor instead of the head coach of the team. Can he be more arrogant?
- GioRock

Its funny, when the team is winning consistently fans love the demeanor, the emotion etc. When the team is inconsistent he is a jackdog...comes with the territory I suppose...

Very frustrated as everyone here is, but on the bright side we are one 4-5 game winning streak away from being right near the top & breaking away from the pack. I still have a lot of faith in this group but we need the dead weight of this team to start pulling they're fair share. Cough cough, Richards...Gaborik
- B2B76

that is the bottom line

I am not sure what Torts is supposed to do about Gaborik hitting the post constantly

the biggest problem today is not that Torts acts like a richard in press conferences, but who takes on the 20+ minutes a game on the blueline now if Del Zotto has a signifigant injury?

Because like him or not, like a pitcher in baseball who eats up innings, Del Zotto is capable of playing big minutes.

We are looking at a 5-6 defensive unit of Bickel and Gilroy on the road in Montreal tomorrow, and that is bad news.

Its funny, when the team is winning consistently fans love the demeanor, the emotion etc. When the team is inconsistent he is a jackdog...comes with the territory I suppose...
- Blueshirts4ever

I like him as a coach. But I wish he would be more consistent and less of a jerk.

It's a circus, every night we hear Torts say "I don't think the whole lineup is playing", isn't it his job to get those players playing? He lost his effectiveness nd the team is headed south, they are frustrating, embarrassing and depressing to be a fan of,yeah they might be within a playoff spot but that's a failure in itself.
- cranford93

Think of the current teams that are doing well: Boston, Pittsburgh, NJ, Chicago, Van. etc.

All made very minimal changes from last year's roster. Truth of the matter is here I that this team had no time to get their game together. Team chemistry is extremely vital and this team has little to none right now.

This shortened season might be a washout but this team should be really good next year; with a tweak or two of course.

I like him as a coach. But I wish he would be more consistent and less of a jerk.
- GioRock

He was fine up until this past week, I don't get why they have to hide injuries though, in about 5 seconds we all knew Craig Anderson sprained his ankle...just leads to more of a circus. He is who he is, the better pressers are post practice, he is much more insightful and the emotion of the game is gone...the other thing is how much have the Rangers had a full line-up. It began with Richards' flu, Cally, Girardi, Powe, Nash, now maybe MDZ, Ash was out for not only a game but a groin issue, Kreider...they can't seem to get everyone together...didn't the Devils get off ot a similar start in 1995? I'm just curious, the only other example we have is that season.Tts interesting b/c it was the Devils who lost in the ECF the year prior...

He was fine up until this past week, I don't get why they have to hide injuries though, in about 5 seconds we all knew Craig Anderson sprained his ankle...just leads to more of a circus. He is who he is, the better pressers are post practice, he is much more insightful and the emotion of the game is gone...the other thing is how much have the Rangers had a full line-up. It began with Richards' flu, Cally, Girardi, Powe, Nash, now maybe MDZ, Ash was out for not only a game but a groin issue, Kreider...they can't seem to get everyone together...didn't the Devils get off ot a similar start in 1995? I'm just curious, the only other example we have is that season.Tts interesting b/c it was the Devils who lost in the ECF the year prior...
- Blueshirts4ever

The Devils were a fifth seed in 1995 and ran the table, especially on the road in the postseason. But they didn't turnover their roster so drastically in the summer of 1994. They did however make two good trades that solidified their team by acquiring Neal Broten and Shawn Chambers. Both played well for them en route to the cup.

I will maintain the theory that if this team is going to turn it around, a significant in-season deal will have to be made.

How does it help if Torts reveals what is actually wrong with Nash though?

If it isn't his head, and it's another body part, why reveal it and let the opponents know what it is?

this isn't the NFL

How does it help if Torts reveals what is actually wrong with Nash though?

If it isn't his head, and it's another body part, why reveal it and let the opponents know what it is?

this isn't the NFL
- jimbro83

Well thats just it, if they have to reveal injuries in the NFL which is much more violent than they should in the NHL. Now, I think betting/gambling is the real reason why the NFL forces teams to disclose, lets not kid ourselves there...everyone knew Callahans injury and I'm not sure teams have gone out their way to pull his shoulder out of his socket again...

After 16 games there shouldn't be more feeling things out, the training camp excuse is old and if by no the core of returning players haven't taken charge there needs to be a message sent or a change.

The Devils were a fifth seed in 1995 and ran the table, especially on the road in the postseason. But they didn't turnover their roster so drastically in the summer of 1994. They did however make two good trades that solidified their team by acquiring Neal Broten and Shawn Chambers. Both played well for them en route to the cup.

I will maintain the theory that if this team is going to turn it around, a significant in-season deal will have to be made.
- MidnightMarauder

They wound up as the 5 seed but I recall a real struggle early, about half way through, around the .500 mark...I do remember the deal and then they got hot toward the end...I'm just looking for precedence and really that season has nothing to do with this season...but the one thing we all know in sports recently, its always the team that is playing the best toward the end...just get in, I don't care about home ice nor the seedings...they have 32 games to get it right...which is still quite a bit of hockey...

This looks like the same as the Rangers teams that coasted from 98 to 03, it's get paid and flame out.

This looks like the same as the Rangers teams that coasted from 98 to 03, it's get paid and flame out.
- cranford93

i think last year's team set the bar pretty high. Adding more talent just increased expectations. players like gaborik and richards will play out of their slump eventually. luckily there's enough talent on the roster to coast for now. Keep in mind a lot of other teams are flying high right now and will fall back down to earth eventually, like montreal , not as good as their place in the standings would indicate. Islanders started off on a tear, they're far from an elite team by any standards. if this rangers team can pull it together with 1/3 to 1/4 of the season and gain some momentum going into the playoffs, then I believe they'll do just fine

This looks like the same as the Rangers teams that coasted from 98 to 03, it's get paid and flame out.
- cranford93

I disagree, those teams didn't have the amount of youth this team has, making youthful mistakes.

Take a look again at the blueline's of the teams of that era and compare it to this one.

I am however getting a strong reminder of the 92-93 season with this team, in terms of expectations and crapping the bed a bit.

There is still time to turn it around.

We need Nash yo

In terms of a shakeup we can do it without losing a single player...

Torts needs to open things up a bit for certain players on certain lines.

Let Gabby And Kreider just fly around and score goals and not be shaking scared of the coach.

Bench Richards next game. And have the 2 kids take those minutes and take your lumps and hope they bring the energy.

Give Christian Thomas the one game you bench Richards and don't jerk him around ala Kreider. Tell him, you have 1 game cause you deserve it and maybe it gives the Vets a wake up call. No matter what he does, send him down after the game.

You really shake things up on the team without gettign rid of everyone.

I disagree, those teams didn't have the amount of youth this team has, making youthful mistakes.

Take a look again at the blueline's of the teams of that era and compare it to this one.

I am however getting a strong reminder of the 92-93 season with this team, in terms of expectations and crapping the bed a bit.

There is still time to turn it around.

We need Nash yo
- jimbro83

Agreed, I am disappointed as much as the next fan, but this team has a solid foundation. The 97-04 era was a disaster of colossal proportions, with little to no prospects in sight.

I tend to agree with Carp. The team is lack some snarl, and that is perhaps where we miss guys like Prust and Dubinsky the most. But, as I stated last night, I think it may be a little bit more than just snarl. I think this team has too many nice, quiet guys that just go about their business. Those types of guys are great, and I love them, but I seriously think the team could use an A-Hole or two that can also play. Someone that other teams hate. Someone like Scott Hartnell.

In terms of a shakeup we can do it without losing a single player...

Torts needs to open things up a bit for certain players on certain lines.

Let Gabby And Kreider just fly around and score goals and not be shaking scared of the coach.

Bench Richards next game. And have the 2 kids take those minutes and take your lumps and hope they bring the energy.

Give Christian Thomas the one game you bench Richards and don't jerk him around ala Kreider. Tell him, you have 1 game cause you deserve it and maybe it gives the Vets a wake up call. No matter what he does, send him down after the game.

You really shake things up on the team without gettign rid of everyone.
- mrhattrick27

Why don't we get Chris Kreider a nice fluffy pillow, and sing him lullabies while were at it?