yeah but millers contract is up after next season. i'm no goalie progression genius but it doesnt seem like hed be ready for the NHL by then
- robz228

our goalie position is (frank)ed. theres nothing after miller. there's barely a backup.

our goalie position is (frank)ed. theres nothing after miller. there's barely a backup.
- Putzfrau

There's a bunch in the pipe, but none of them are ready yet.

Knapp
Lieuwen
Ullmark
Makarov

Trade Myers before it's too late.
- Powerslave

+3 in last 5 games when the team went 1-4, with a goal and assist. He's been far from the problem recently, it's the other guys like Weber and Sulzer who don't belong in the NHL

Trade Myers before it's too late.
- Powerslave

+3 in last 5 games when the team went 1-4, with a goal and assist. He's been far from the problem recently, it's the other guys like Weber and Sulzer who don't belong in the NHL

our goalie position is (frank)ed. theres nothing after miller. there's barely a backup.
- Putzfrau

their depth at goalie actually looks VERY strong. the problem is that its all VERY young. So there needs to be a gap between miller and the next guy - but it will be hard to find a gap filler as good as biron

yeah but millers contract is up after next season. i'm no goalie progression genius but it doesnt seem like hed be ready for the NHL by then
- robz228

true.. I highly doubt miller will not be a sabre after next year.. ive seen stranger things happen though

i've come to the decision that i believe pominville OR vanek should be traded. Preferably pominville, since Vanek wont be getting a raise and pomm probably would.

Theres no point in resigning both of them for 6m+ since it didnt work with them as your top 2 forwards before, so why would it work again.

feels like ive been saying this for the last 10 years, but the future looks pretty bright. if they manage to pull it off and actually finish in the bottom 3 draft picks, it looks like a no-miss scenario with Jones, MacKinnon and Drouin.

then you have in a couple years hodgson, ennis, grigorenko, whoever we draft there, girgensons, armia, myers, pysyk, mcnabb, foligno, mccabe, tropp

the only problem is IF miller doesnt resign we are doomed at goalie. although that seems like its easy to pick up a random veteran who can perform.

eddit on top of this: ennis seems out of place. personally i think hes better right now than hodgson, but hodgson has bigger upside. trade one of those 2 for for oreilly and i think you have a very good balanced foundation of grit, skill, and size in the 20-24year old range.
- robz228

I dont understand how anyone can think Hodgson has more upside than Ennis.

Ennis can play well no matter who his wingers are. Hodgson wouldnt produce if he wasnt playing with Vanek and Pominville. And his defense is nothing to be desired. Have a big feeling hes going to get a monster contract that he wont ever live up to, and since Ennis was only signed 2 years, hes going to be the piece that moves on and we will regret it big time.

There's a bunch in the pipe, but none of them are ready yet.

Knapp
Lieuwen
Ullmark
Makarov
- HonkFortheGoose

agreed, i should have clarified. we have nothing to fill the immediate need assuming miller is either traded or doesnt resign.

Trade Myers before it's too late.
- Powerslave

....That backhand pass/giveaway from behind the net directly in front of Miller was a beauty wasn't it?!?

+3 in last 5 games when the team went 1-4, with a goal and assist. He's been far from the problem recently, it's the other guys like Weber and Sulzer who don't belong in the NHL
- sbroads24

Add Brennan to that list.

I dont understand how anyone can think Hodgson has more upside than Ennis.

Ennis can play well no matter who his wingers are. Hodgson wouldnt produce if he wasnt playing with Vanek and Pominville. And his defense is nothing to be desired. Have a big feeling hes going to get a monster contract that he wont ever live up to, and since Ennis was only signed 2 years, hes going to be the piece that moves on and we will regret it big time.
- theblueandgold

Hodgson was producing with Foligno and Mancari in the AHL. I realize the talent level is lower, but so were the guys he was playing with.

That being said, Hodgson and Ennis are very different players and I think both will be good in their own right.

agreed, i should have clarified. we have nothing to fill the immediate need assuming miller is either traded or doesnt resign.
- Putzfrau

We really could use a star prospect between the pipes though. I am intrigued by Makarov and Ullmark however.

....That backhand pass/giveaway from behind the net directly in front of Miller was a beauty wasn't it?!?
- twistedwrister9

Why is it ok for Mike Weber to do it, or for Ehrhoff to make bad pinches, or Sulzer to look like a HS defenseman on a 2 on 1, yet Myers makes 1 bad play the entire night and he needs to be traded??

Add Brennan to that list.
- theblueandgold

Brennan is actually a +2 in the last two games.

He had 17 mins against Winnipeg but only 11 tonight.

Why is it ok for Mike Weber to do it, or for Ehrhoff to make bad pinches, or Sulzer to look like a HS defenseman on a 2 on 1, yet Myers makes 1 bad play the entire night and he needs to be traded??
- sbroads24

Weber is back to being Weber.

He's been pretty bad the last 2 games.

I dont understand how anyone can think Hodgson has more upside than Ennis.

Ennis can play well no matter who his wingers are. Hodgson wouldnt produce if he wasnt playing with Vanek and Pominville. And his defense is nothing to be desired. Have a big feeling hes going to get a monster contract that he wont ever live up to, and since Ennis was only signed 2 years, hes going to be the piece that moves on and we will regret it big time.
- theblueandgold

aka ennis is better right now. i would be fine if they traded hodgson instead of ennis but it feels like they are the same player. one should be traded.

but it think its harder to justify trading hodgson since you gave kassian up for him.

Brennan is actually a +2 in the last two games.

He had 17 mins against Winnipeg but only 11 tonight.
- HonkFortheGoose

He sucked tonight but he also needs to be with someone who doesn't turn the puck over like Weber does in his own end

aka ennis is better right now. i would be fine if they traded hodgson instead of ennis but it feels like they are the same player. one should be traded.

but it think its harder to justify trading hodgson since you gave kassian up for him.
- robz228

Anyone heard from Kassian now thats hes not playing with the Sedins? Didnt think so.

He sucked tonight but he also needs to be with someone who doesn't turn the puck over like Weber does in his own end
- sbroads24

That certainly doesn't help.

Weber is back to being Weber.

He's been pretty bad the last 2 games.
- HonkFortheGoose

I could see it coming from a mile away, we have seen this from him for 3 years, that's why he started as the 7th guy in the box this year. Pardy is a much better player IMO

Anyone heard from Kassian now thats hes not playing with the Sedins? Didnt think so.
- theblueandgold

He has 1 assist I believe since he was taken off of that line.

I could see it coming from a mile away, we have seen this from him for 3 years, that's why he started as the 7th guy in the box this year. Pardy is a much better player IMO
- sbroads24

I don't know enough about Pardy to make that determination.

Anyone heard from Kassian now thats hes not playing with the Sedins? Didnt think so.
- theblueandgold

no, never said hes been good, but thats irellevant.

if you are trading hodsgon or ennis its because they are both soft, skilled centerman and you'd ideally want someone tough and decently skilled

aka kassian.

no, never said hes been good, but thats irellevant.

if you are trading hodsgon or ennis its because they are both soft, skilled centerman and you'd ideally want someone tough and decently skilled

aka kassian.
- robz228

Kassian is a winger.

i guess the silver lining to our horrendous defense this year is that organizationally it's one of our deepest positions. hopefully if the youngsters pan out as they should, we could potentially be all set in the next few years