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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
How about an undrafted Solid top 6 guy in Matt Read?
- nastyflyergirl


That's quite a steal for sure.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
How about an undrafted Solid top 6 guy in Matt Read?
- nastyflyergirl

I honestly believe there are a bunch of college players who never get the shot in the NHL that could be like Read... its just about getting a chance an making the best of it...
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
Seriously? A recap by anyone listening would be interesting.

I'm specifically curious to get his take on the meteor that hit Russia.

- PLindbergh31


I'm sure they'll ask him about that. I'll be listening.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
Gotta say, even with all the injury woes we've had, I feel so bad for Ottawa right now. They just can't have nice things this season.
- BulliesPhan87


With all the young kids they have, being crippled by injuries 10-6-2 is a hell of a start for them. I watch a lot of Sens games, and they are competitive every night. Anderson has been ridiculously good. a +.950 save %
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm sure they'll ask him about that. I'll be listening.
- NickTheKid87

Are we sure its not joe conklin
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 22 @ 10:28 AM ET
How about an undrafted Solid top 6 guy in Matt Read?
- nastyflyergirl

Plus Bob was turned into some nice picks. Though, I already completely forget who we drafted with those picks. Ghost was one of them, right?
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 22 @ 10:28 AM ET
Would love Cousins to turn into a Brad Marchand type.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=204233&navid=nhl:topheads
- jak521


Thanks.

Didn't look intentional to me. Looked like he was going for a hip check and it went awry.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
Gotta say, even with all the injury woes we've had, I feel so bad for Ottawa right now. They just can't have nice things this season.
- BulliesPhan87


They've lost their top forward, top defenseman and starting goalie. If they can stay competitive than kudos to them.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
How about an undrafted Solid top 6 guy in Matt Read?
- nastyflyergirl


Also the Leino trade... And knowing to walk away. Very solid moves.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
Are we sure its not joe conklin
- jak521


Now that you've said that I am doubting that it'll be the real Bryz.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:32 AM ET
Thanks.

Didn't look intentional to me. Looked like he was going for a hip check and it went awry.

- Scoob

Too many negatives about the hit in my opinion.. kinda comes from the blind side, clutterbuck doesnt have the puck, and intentional or not, he leads with the knee... when was the last time someone threw a hip check while coming from a forward angle.

To boot.. it resulted in an injury. Stupid play. Hope he gets a few games.
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:32 AM ET
A line that contained both Steve Downie and Zac Rinaldo would have probably drawn a minor the second they jumped over the boards.
- johndewar


If only you could get Carcillo on that line as well.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:33 AM ET
Too many negatives about the hit in my opinion.. kinda comes from the blind side, clutterbuck doesnt have the puck, and intentional or not, he leads with the knee... when was the last time someone threw a hip check while coming from a forward angle.
- jak521


I didn't offer my opinion on the legality of the hit. I just don't think he intended to injure.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:33 AM ET
That trade ended up being Carter, Richards and Powe for Voracek, Couturier, Cousins, Simmonds, Schenn and Grossmann or something right? Great deal.
- NickTheKid87



Jakub Voracek, 2011 1st rounder (Sean Couturier), 2011 3rd rounder (Nick Cousins) for Jeff Carter

Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn and 2012 2nd rounder (transferred to Dallas - Devin Shore) for Mike Richards and Rob Bordson

Nicklas Grossman for LA's 2012 2nd Rounder (Devin Shore), Minnesota's 2013 3rd Rounder (acquired for Powe)

soooooo in the long run.....Voracek, Couturier, Cousins, Schenn, Simmonds and Grossmann for Carter, Richards, Bordson and Powe

so much fun playing the 6th degree of trades
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
Gotta say, even with all the injury woes we've had, I feel so bad for Ottawa right now. They just can't have nice things this season.
- BulliesPhan87


Speaking of feeling bad for Ottawa, anyone know who the dum dum was who asked Tortorella if he had sympathy for Ottawa given their recent injuries?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
who had lost his taste here in philly. he lasted how long in TB? And they got what in return for him when they traded him.. a rental d-man.

Now he is in his third city on his third team and is out injured. He would have made one hell of a Flyer though. Sure fire all-star.

- jak521

actually, downie was traded for a DET #1 pick in a pre-arranged deal for kyle quincey. the point is that 2 #1s were required to bring in carle, just as Bill indicated was often the price GMs pay for non-homegrown guys.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:35 AM ET
Jakub Voracek, 2011 1st rounder (Sean Couturier), 2011 3rd rounder (Nick Cousins) for Jeff Carter

Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn and 2012 2nd rounder (transferred to Dallas - Devin Shore) for Mike Richards and Rob Bordson

Nicklas Grossman for LA's 2012 2nd Rounder (Devin Shore), Minnesota's 2013 3rd Rounder (acquired for Powe)

soooooo in the long run.....Voracek, Couturier, Cousins, Schenn, Simmonds and Grossmann for Carter, Richards, Bordson and Powe

so much fun playing the 6th degree of trades

- nastyflyergirl


Can't believe we gave up Bordson. Negates the trade.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:35 AM ET
Now that you've said that I am doubting that it'll be the real Bryz.
- NickTheKid87


I've been listening on-line for the last 5 minutes...This is awful radio.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
pause the video at the point of contact. From a physiological point, (pardon me, I tend to get to scientific with this stuff) he is squatting when he delivers the hit. Is it possible to squat and still lead with the thigh?
- jak521


If their legs intertwine (DIRTY!), I think it is.


NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
I've been listening on-line for the last 5 minutes...This is awful radio.
- Jsaquella


Yeah it is. Don't trade Foles because he might end up decent and I couldn't live if he succeeded elsewhere!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
I honestly believe there are a bunch of college players who never get the shot in the NHL that could be like Read... its just about getting a chance an making the best of it...
- jak521



yep. I do like that Homer takes stabs at them. Most don't make it but its great when you pluck a Read or even Gustafsson in free agency.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 22 @ 10:38 AM ET
If the Flyers add a few pieces, they can win a Stanley cup with this core.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 22 @ 10:38 AM ET
Also the Leino trade... And knowing to walk away. Very solid moves.
- PLindbergh31


NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 22 @ 10:38 AM ET
They're going to commercial now and Bryz should be on after the break. Re: WIP
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