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right-winger
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 07.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
Do you think Briere would waive his NMC? I'm very skeptical about that happening.
- stveshdy


I'm not sure what the rules in the CBA are, but if we trade Briere to Boston and they buy him out after the season, can he sign back here at a reduced cap hit? I know he wants to stay in this area and would need to sign elsewhere if we buy him out. I doubt Boston would want to play into this "scheme" but if they think they have a shot this year, it's possible.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
Do you think Briere would waive his NMC? I'm very skeptical about that happening.
- stveshdy


I don't think he would. But at the TDL, maybe they promise to use a buy out on him...who knows?

Still think it's doubtful, just repeating a "rumor"
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 5:46 PM ET
I'm not sure what the rules in the CBA are, but if we trade Briere to Boston and they buy him out after the season, can he sign back here at a reduced cap hit? I know he wants to stay in this area and would need to sign elsewhere if we buy him out. I doubt Boston would want to play into this "scheme" but if they think they have a shot this year, it's possible.
- right-winger


Yes, he could. If Boston buys him out, they are on the hook and he couldn't sign there, be traded there or claimed off waivers by the Bruins for one calendar year.

He could end up anywhere else.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
MAx Pacioretty avoids supplemental discipline for boarding Ryan McDonagh
- Jsaquella

tort's head explodes
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 5:50 PM ET
laught

but awesome

- Crimsoninja


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 5:57 PM ET
Panaccio just tweeted that Al Morganti says if the Flyers become "sellers", Boston would be willing to take on Danny Briere.

If he'd be willing to waive his NMC, I think I might try to move him now anyhow, sellers or not.

- Jsaquella

Briere in Boston, huh.

Really hard to imagine that.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 5:57 PM ET
Yes, but the point I'm making is that's not why, in my opinion Rinaldo was out there. The Coach was sending a message.
- MJL



That message had already been sent prior to the drop of the puck, when Rinaldo's saw his name on the whiteboard next to Couturier and Talbot.

Rinaldo being on the ice in the last minute of the game was more of a testament to just how well he executed all game long in that elevated role -- he didn't give Lavi any reason not to trust him to be out there with the game on the line.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 24 @ 5:59 PM ET
I don't think he would. But at the TDL, maybe they promise to use a buy out on him...who knows?

Still think it's doubtful, just repeating a "rumor"

- Jsaquella


I would be willing to make that move. What kind of return do you think the Flyers would want?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
That message had already been sent prior to the drop of the puck, when Rinaldo's saw his name on the whiteboard next to Couturier and Talbot.

Rinaldo being on the ice in the last minute of the game was more of a testament to just how well he executed all game long in that elevated role -- he didn't give Lavi any reason not to trust him to be out there with the game on the line.

- Tomahawk



Starting them is just looking for energy to start the game. Something the Flyers have been lacking. If you read my previous posts, I stated that the Coach played who was bringing it all game, and cut the ice time of those who were not, in the 3rd period. It's not customary for Rinaldo to play in that situation. That's the Coach sending a message.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
I'm not sure what the rules in the CBA are, but if we trade Briere to Boston and they buy him out after the season, can he sign back here at a reduced cap hit? I know he wants to stay in this area and would need to sign elsewhere if we buy him out. I doubt Boston would want to play into this "scheme" but if they think they have a shot this year, it's possible.
- right-winger

Why in the world would a team trade for a player just to buy him out?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
I would be willing to make that move. What kind of return do you think the Flyers would want?
- stveshdy


I wouldn't expect a lot. Pick/prospect...Absolute most I'd expect is a 2nd rounder.
right-winger
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 07.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:04 PM ET
Yes, he could. If Boston buys him out, they are on the hook and he couldn't sign there, be traded there or claimed off waivers by the Bruins for one calendar year.

He could end up anywhere else.

- Jsaquella


So maybe Briere agrees to waive NMC in exchange for Boston agreeing to buy him out at season's end (as you mentioned). We can then re-sign him to a lower cap hit and maybe pick up a draft pick (hopefully more but I'd doubt it).

I didn't know if there would be any consequences as we initiated the contract (claw-back).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
I would be willing to make that move. What kind of return do you think the Flyers would want?
- stveshdy

Picks and a kid, most likely. One that plays D?

And no, I'm not thinking of Hamilton. He's off the table, methinks. Besides- to get him, it'd probably take Briere and a 1st
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:06 PM ET
Why in the world would a team trade for a player just to buy him out?
- hereticpride


Why would a team trade a high pick for a rental?

I find it highly unlikely, myself. But who knows?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:06 PM ET
I wouldn't expect a lot. Pick/prospect...Absolute most I'd expect is a 2nd rounder.
- Jsaquella


Done. Waive it Briere.
right-winger
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 07.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 6:06 PM ET
Why in the world would a team trade for a player just to buy him out?
- hereticpride


If they are looking to make a run in the playoffs and aren't giving up much, why not?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:07 PM ET
Picks and a kid, most likely. One that plays D?

And no, I'm not thinking of Hamilton. He's off the table, methinks. Besides- to get him, it'd probably take Briere and a 1st

- Giroux_Is_God


For Hamilton? It'd probably take Couturier or Schenn.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 6:07 PM ET
Do you think Briere would waive his NMC? I'm very skeptical about that happening.
- stveshdy


If an opportunity ever came up that would be good for him, his family, AND the Flyers, a trade might be possible.

His willingness to leave his family behind to play in Berlin also suggests to me that family isn't the automatic deal-breaker that it's been made out to be.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
If they are looking to make a run in the playoffs and aren't giving up much, why not?
- right-winger


The Bruins are a very good team already. Adding Briere gives them another weapon.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
For Hamilton? It'd probably take Couturier or Schenn.
- Jsaquella

Yeah- for sure. Not worth it, in my opinion.

I just saw someone earlier talking about Briere and a 3rd for Hamilton. NHL 13, anyone??
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:09 PM ET
If an opportunity ever came up that would be good for him, his family, AND the Flyers, a trade might be possible.

His willingness to leave his family behind to play in Berlin also suggests to me that family isn't the automatic deal-breaker that it's been made out to be.

- Tomahawk


He is definately a player I would be looking to trade before the deadline (if he would waive his NMC).

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:09 PM ET
If they are looking to make a run in the playoffs and aren't giving up much, why not?
- right-winger

Because they are on the hook for the rest of the deal. Yiu think a GM really wants to pay all that money for Briere for one playoff run.

I wouldnt be surprised if Boston wants him. And I would unload that contract in a second. But to think he's just going to get bought out and come back here is sort of ridiculous.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:10 PM ET
Because they are on the hook for the rest of the deal. Yiu think a GM really wants to pay all that money for Briere f or one playoff run.

I wouldnt be surprised if Boston eants him. And I would unload that vontract in a second. But to think he's hjust going to get bought out and cone back here is sort of ridiculous.

- hereticpride


If Boston trades for him I'm willing to bet they want him until his contract runs out.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:12 PM ET
If Boston trades for him I'm willing to bet they want him until his contract runs out.
- stveshdy

Agreed.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:14 PM ET
Because they are on the hook for the rest of the deal. Yiu think a GM really wants to pay all that money for Briere f or one playoff run.

I wouldnt be surprised if Boston wants him. And I would unload that contract in a second. But to think he's hjust going to get bought out and cone back here is sort of ridiculous.

- hereticpride


After this year, Briere's contract has 2 years left. One year his salary is $3mm, the next $2mm. His buyout would cost the team buying him out $833,333 in each of the next 4 years.

Also the Flyers can trade some of the money to Boston to offset costs.
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