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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:32 PM ET
Scoring like crazy in the OHL isn't scoring like crazy in the NHL, though
- Jsaquella


I wouldn't expect him to put him big numbers in the NHL especially since we don't know what role he'll have. However for kicks I'd say expect 25 to 45 if he can make the transition whenever he gets his NHL shot.

I of course would hope for more.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 24 @ 3:39 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Comeback, Special Teams Barometer
- bmeltzer

When Rinaldo somehow broke away and I realized who it was, first words out of my mouth was " Zac Rinaldo???" The Coach has real confidence in him to let him lose while defending a lead.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:45 PM ET
how about eric belanger?
- FlyerMike18


pretty sure he's outta gas.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
pretty sure he's outta gas.
- OrangeBlack27



yeah a couple of years ago i'd say yes
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
yeah a couple of years ago i'd say yes
- Don'tForgetTocchet


stoked to see you freak out when we sign max lapierre this summer.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
I wouldn't expect him to put him big numbers in the NHL especially since we don't know what role he'll have. However for kicks I'd say expect 25 to 45 if he can make the transition whenever he gets his NHL shot.

I of course would hope for more.

- ob18


With all the sanctions being handed down to Portland, is Leier eligible to turn pro and play in the AHL if he decides?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
More than anything I'd like to see the forwards back-check consistently.

Whether that takes Snider spanking every guy who doesn't so be it.

- flyer_nutter


That's definitely part of it. The players need to be better in a number of areas. But I just don't like the way they play strategy wise. They lack layers to their game.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
With all the sanctions being handed down to Portland, is Leier eligible to turn pro and play in the AHL if he decides?
- ravishingone


He just turned 19 & has 1 more junior eligible season left, my belief is he either makes the team if & when they sign him or he goes back to Portland.

OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
saq, boyd gordon is a nice, arguably better option than steckel.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
When Rinaldo somehow broke away and I realized who it was, first words out of my mouth was " Zac Rinaldo???" The Coach has real confidence in him to let him lose while defending a lead.
- SuperSchennBros


In my opinion, there was more at play there then just who the Coach has confidence in. I think it was the Coach rewarding a player for bringing it all game. And sitting those and cutting ice time of those who didn't. I'd like to see more of that from the Coach.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
obvi it's no guarantee but i don't exactly think leading the OHL in scoring is a bad thing...
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Absolutely not a bad thing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
how about eric belanger?
- FlyerMike18


Does he do anything besides win faceoffs? Not to knock him, but Steckel brings size and he was used in a PK role in Washington. Belanger is kind of a Yannic Perreault type guy.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
saq, boyd gordon is a nice, arguably better option than steckel.
- OrangeBlack27


Agreed. Gordon is a very capable player. Good call.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
I wouldn't expect him to put him big numbers in the NHL especially since we don't know what role he'll have. However for kicks I'd say expect 25 to 45 if he can make the transition whenever he gets his NHL shot.

I of course would hope for more.

- ob18


If he can score 15 goals and 35 points, that's great for a third liner that agitates.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
He just turned 19 & has 1 more junior eligible season left, my belief is he either makes the team if & when they sign him or he goes back to Portland.
- ob18


okay, I wonder if they would give him the Laughton treatment and give him the trial looksie next season. He seems like an intriguing prospect.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
pretty sure he's outta gas.
- OrangeBlack27


definitely getting up there
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
Does he do anything besides win faceoffs? Not to knock him, but Steckel brings size and he was used in a PK role in Washington. Belanger is kind of a Yannic Perreault type guy.
- Jsaquella


seems to log a good amount of minutes on the pk for the oilers. don't know how effective that unit has been, however (i'd imagine not very). just throwing it out there as a 4lc that can win draws and probably will be available. i just don't see teams in the hunt dumping useful players for no reason
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
Panaccio just tweeted that Al Morganti says if the Flyers become "sellers", Boston would be willing to take on Danny Briere.

If he'd be willing to waive his NMC, I think I might try to move him now anyhow, sellers or not.

- Jsaquella

why would Boston want him"
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
seems to log a good amount of minutes on the pk for the oilers. don't know how effective that unit has been, however (i'd imagine not very). just throwing it out there as a 4lc that can win draws and probably will be available. i just don't see teams in the hunt dumping useful players for no reason
- FlyerMike18


Actually he is playing quite a bit on Edmonton's PK unit, and they have been really good on the PK.

Cap hit is a bit high. $1.75mm this year and next
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Feb 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
why would Boston want him"
- Winning


They have a ton of cap space, he's a veteran leader, and he's clutch in the playoffs. Why would you not want him?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
Actually he is playing quite a bit on Edmonton's PK unit, and they have been really good on the PK.

Cap hit is a bit high. $1.75mm this year and next

- Jsaquella


didn't realize he was signed for next season as well. never mind
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 24 @ 4:10 PM ET
They have a ton of cap space, he's a veteran leader, and he's clutch in the playoffs. Why would you not want him?
- KGBflyers10

He gets pushed off the puck like a small child. Doesn't play defense, floats around like a feather. Scores once a month.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 24 @ 4:11 PM ET
He gets pushed off the puck like a small child. Doesn't play defense, floats around like a feather. Scores once a month.
- Winning


Except the playoffs
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 4:11 PM ET
why would Boston want him"
- Winning


That's a good question. Perhaps as a winger on the 2nd line. From Left Wing lock, the second line has been Marchand, Seguin and Bergeron. Briere would look good with Bergeron & Lucic.

Also, Boston's PP sucks. It's 28th in the NHL.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 24 @ 4:12 PM ET
That's a good question. Perhaps as a winger on the 2nd line. From Left Wing lock, the second line has been Marchand, Seguin and Bergeron. Briere would look good with Bergeron & Lucic
- Jsaquella

Hamilton for Briere and a pick
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